Zobaline Question

Discussion in 'Feline Health - (Welcome & Main Forum)' started by Terruscats, Mar 26, 2017.

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  1. Terruscats

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    I have have had Eddie on Zobaline for neuropathy for about six months, which i order from Amazon, the pills, so far, have been pink but the new bottle I just got the pills are white. Anybody have a similar experience? Being a bit more cautious than is healthy(!), just making sure it's nothing more than a manufacturing change. I will try calling the company tomorrow too. Also, the Zobaline has done a great job for Eddie. He is back to walking tip toed again! Should I assume the Zobaline is to be continued for life? Thanks in advance for any advice!
     
  2. PamJV

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    I can't answer your question. I just ordered Zobaline for the first time, and haven't received it yet. I want to ask if the pill is small enough to pill the cat. I've heard some crush it and mix it in food, but my cat doesn't eat wet food. I really hope I can pill it. How long would you say it took to see it helping?

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  3. Terruscats

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    I think it is small enough to pill but I crush it between two spoons until it's powder and sprinkle on his wet food and cover with teaspoon of crushed dry food (DM). He has always eaten it without a problem! I hope you have good luck with getting your kitty to take as a pill or crushed and it works as well for you as it has for Eddie. It took about four to six weeks to see improvement in his neuropathy so be patient,though I've read it can take longer to see results. Good luck!
     
  4. meowsyko

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    I got my Zobaline months ago and the pills are pinkish, so not sure if they've changed it. Just make sure it says "Zobaline for diabetic cats" on the bottle, because they also make a human one.
    You can continue it for life, but you might not need to once a cat is in normal numbers most of the time. It's having excess glucose that causes neuropathy in the first place. My cat has been in remission for 7 months, and I stopped giving Zobaline every day.
    The pills are very tiny. But they dissolve and crumble easily, so pilling would be difficult. You could mix into water and syringe it...
    They will take some time to work, but they will not work on their own, your cat's BG also needs to get more regulated to see improvement. Zobaline just gives the cat a little extra help.
     
  5. Tuxedo Mom

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    Just check and make sure it is not Xobaline, which is human B12 made by the same company. Xobaline may have xylitol in it which is poisonous to kitties. Make sure it is Zobaline for Cats.
     
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  6. Terruscats

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    Eddie, for the most part, is not as well controlled as I would like. He is on Vetsulin but his vet would like him on Lantus but we are not able to afford it right now. It is definitely Zobaline for diabetic cats. I am going to contact the manufacturer and see what the deal is!
     
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  7. PamJV

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    What about putting the Zobaline in a pill pocket and pilling that? Every morning I pill Ricky a quarter Atenelol. I could put both together in a pill pocket. I think squirting a liquid in the mouth is upsetting to cats no matter even if it's water.

    Of course I'm trying to get Ricky regulated too. He was diagnosed a month and a half ago, and put on 2 units of Lantus twice a day. I did everything the vet told me to do, and when he ran Glucose curve he said everything looked just right. Then a month later he ran a Fructose test and again told me everything was great no need to change the dose. He said home testing wouldn't be needed as long as Ricky signs were good. Ricky did really improve initially so I too thought it was all great. I did sometimes see a funny walk that looked like he had a swagger. It came and went, and I didn't really know what it was. Then it became more pronounced just last Friday and I realized it was diabetic neuropathy. So now I have started home testing and am trying to figure out what the dose should be. I wonder how could it be that at first he looked stronger on the 2 units but now he looks weaker as if that's not enough?

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  8. Yong & Maury GA

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    Just don't use a whole pill pocket. They are high in carbs. Just break off the tiniest amount needed to cover the pill.
     
  9. Chris & China (GA)

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    Have you seen this post in "Insulin from Canadian Pharmacies?"

    Marks is where most of us are buying our Lantus from because it's 1/3rd the price....and a 5 pack of pens will last most cats at least a year....and some cats up to 2 years!!
     
  10. Terruscats

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    I am definitely going to check this out! Thanks!
     
  11. Terruscats

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    When Eddie was first diagnosed he was started on Vetsulin at 1 unit and adjusted as needed but we have always home tested him twice daily before shooting him. He did go into remission for about a year but is now back on Vetsulin and has been for a year now. He developed the diabetic neuropathy six months ago when we had thought his glucose was well controlled. With diabetes I have learned to really pay attention and respect it. We home test, we check his urine for ketones at least once a week, and do curves at home and at the vet when needed and we have fructosamine as directed by his vet but he still ended up with neuropathy. I am glad you are home testing. I cannot imagine giving insulin without testing first. I can't say why your Ricky would develop neuropathy while he seems so well controlled. I do hope it's temporary and Zobaline will make a difference for him!
     
  12. Shenandoah

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    Did you call and get an answer on the pills?
    I just want to say, I just got my new Zobaline (ordered off Amazon) and they're definitely still pinkish pills - and almost red when mixed into wet food. No manufacturing change here.
    My bottle expires January 2020.

    If you haven't called yet, I would definitely call and make sure there was no mix up that somehow got the wrong pills in the bottle.
     
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  13. Terruscats

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    I did call and they said it is not unusual to get different color pills. He said he had already received several calls about the "au naturale" color I had received. Cherry color or white it's the same product and safe to use and my white pills do turn red when added to food which he said is normal.
     
  14. Shenandoah

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    Huh, interesting, and good to know!
     
  15. "Vincent Van Gogh"

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    Hi! So I really want to try Zobaline but before I do, will it effect my cat's blood sugar levels? My cat was just diagnosed with both Diabetes and Leukemia but while trying to do some research on the diabetes, I read that if you give your cat insulin and change up his diet, this could cause his levels to go way down which could be fatal. So I've been trying to balance and figure out what to do because he's been on the insulin for almost two weeks now and not much has changed. He's still peeing way too much, constantly thirsty, and hasn't gained any weight back after having lost 4 pounds in just one month. But what has really been concerning me is his back legs have started to become weak which is why I really want to try Zobaline but I also don't want to give my cat a seizure. So, I don't know what to do. I need help, any thoughts?
     
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  17. "Vincent Van Gogh"

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    Thank you!! I saw a glucose monitoring kit on amazon but it was around $50. Has anyone had any luck finding a system a bit less expensive? I mean, regardless I'll spend everything I have to help my fur child.
     
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  18. Sharon14

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    If you’re in the US, most of us use Relion Confirm or Micro from Walmart. Along with the monitor, you’ll need to pick up lancets and test strips.
     
  19. PamJV

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    Ricky had plantigrade gait and I had him on Zobaline for a while but it never made any difference. What did make a difference was when his insulin dosage was increased to what seemed to be more appropriate for him. When his insulin was increased his plantigrade gait went away and he was back to normal walking.
     
  20. Kris & Teasel

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    @"Vincent Van Gogh" Please repost this on the main health forum under your own thread. It's lost in this old thread. We can help you but you want eyes on your information ASAP. http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/forums/feline-health-the-main-forum.28/
    If you look at the top of this page, you'll see "post new thread". Click on it and a bar will open for you to type in your own title.
     
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  22. Diane Tyler's Mom

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    Hi I just read that you can crush the zobaline and put water in it so that you can put it in a syringe, has anyone done that. Thanks so much
     
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