Starting the curve

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  1. Jen & Cosmo

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    We are doing Cosmo's curve today. I got his morning number, he's eating now. Do I start the 2 hours from when he starts eating or when he finishes?
     
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  2. Kris & Teasel

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    Two hours from when you give his insulin. :) Oops! You're not giving insulin yet are you? Then I'd start 2 hours from when he started eating. Probably not critical. Might I ask why the curve if he's not on insulin?
     
  3. Jen & Cosmo

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    I thought I had to do that before insulin. If not we will start insulin today.
     
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    His number before breakfast was 212. Should I give him 0.50u?
     
  5. Kris & Teasel

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    No curve needed before insulin. Yes, I’d err on the side of a lower dose so go with 0.5 u. He’s not that high. Get a +2 test to see where he’s heading. Post for help if you need it. I’m going out for several hours.
     
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    Okay, gave him breakfast at 7:30 ish. 0.5u at 9:00 am. 11:00 am he is at 196.
     
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  7. Kris & Teasel

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    The next few days your goal is to gather baseline data and allow his body to adjust to getting insulin. The 0.5 u dose might be too low but it's early days so I'd stay at that dose for 4-5 days minimum.
     
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    Kris,

    Thank you. He just had some food in between his last 2 checks. His BG went up a bit. That's to be expected. He has his next insulin at 9:00 along with his next BG check.
     
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    I was following a few of your posts yesterday. You may or may not know but, no food for 2 hours before the amps and pmps (when he gets his shot).
     
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    Stay the course. It's important to remove all food at least 2 hours before the pre shot BG test so you know that the planned dose is safe. It's not as big a factor at a low dose like this but you might as well get into the habit. :)
     
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    Okay, so he ate at 6:30 pm. His next insulin is at 9:00 pm so we are okay right?
     
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    Normally I get up at 6:30, check his BG and feed him. I work normally all day. Now that we started insulin I need to give it to him at 9:00 am.

    Can I stay on my normal routine as far as feeding? 6:30 check BG, breakfast, insulin at 9:00 am?
     
  13. Kris & Teasel

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    Yes, you are.
     
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    Great!

    Thank you!
     
  15. Kris & Teasel

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    It's probably better to have the pre shot test/breakfast/injection a little closer together. So, something like: 6:30 - test BG (no food 2 hours before this)/feed breakfast/wait 30+ minutes so food is into bloodstream (because Novolin can hit fast)/ give insulin at, say, 7:30. The reason is you want to capture BG as close to dosing time as possible because it can change over a period of 2.5 hours (6:30 to 9:00). Dosing depends on knowing that BG level close to shot time as well as how low the dose takes him mid cycle.
     
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