? how do I give Lantus on lower pre shot numbers?

Discussion in 'Lantus / Levemir / Biosimilars' started by cataphraz, Mar 1, 2018.

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  1. cataphraz

    cataphraz Member

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    Mookie's numbers started to come down and dropped drastically last night to 6.3mmol/L. In the past I followed a sliding scale given to me by the vets at the shelter where I got Mookie. I would give a 1/2 dose under 7.2mmol/L and no shot under 4.5mmol/L. Doing this, I was able to keep his numbers low (until I tried to decrease his insulin) but I was never able to achieve a consistent dose am and pm.

    Following tight regulation, it is suggested to give no shot under 8.3mmol/L. How do I keep the am and pm dosing consistent without risking hypoglycemia?
     
  2. Kris & Teasel

    Kris & Teasel Well-Known Member

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  3. Sandy and Black Kitty

    Sandy and Black Kitty Well-Known Member

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    TR requires at least one mid cycle test for each cycle.

    The key to safely giving insulin at lower numbers is to first become “data ready”.
     
  4. cataphraz

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    Thank you for the link! How many days is a cycle? How often do you test on a testing day - every 2 hours, every 3 hours or every 4 hours? Do you test overnight if that's when the nadir usually happens?
     
  5. Amy&TrixieCat

    Amy&TrixieCat Well-Known Member

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    There are two 12-hour cycles per day; each cycle begins when you shoot. There should be one nadir per cycle, so two nadirs per day. Unfortunately, as others have said here, nadirs can be a moving target - some kitties nadir early in the cycle; others nadir late; others nadir any time they please on any given day!

    We always encourage at least 4 tests per day (every day) - a test before each shot to be sure it's safe to give insulin, and at least one test per 12-hour cycle. If the BGs are low or dropping, it maybe necessary to test more than that. Yep, if the numbers warrant it, testing happens overnight as well. A before-bed test is always recommended, and if necessary more testing during the night.
     
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  6. Sandy and Black Kitty

    Sandy and Black Kitty Well-Known Member

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    Every day is a testing day...

    I recommend you read this for important basic information on learning how your cat responds to insulin.

    ‘Know Thy Cat’
    It’s the cornerstone for success in safely treating FD.
     
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