9/11 Elmo AMPS 550 +4 162 +5 161 +6 140 + 7 139 + 7.5 114 + 8.5 155 PMPS 91. NO SHOOT

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  1. Beth 73

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    9/11/01. Never Forget .....Elmo ate well overnight and is hanging with his civvie bros . Sending love and blessings to all :bighug:
     
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  2. Tina Marie (GA) and Jan

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    Beth,
    I don't even want to post the date. I've been emotional anyway, and DH just turned on the TV.
    Love and blessings back to you:bighug:

    Elmo, you need to come on down buddy!
     
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  3. Beth 73

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    :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug: Still brings me to tears...still rocks me to my core
     
  4. Tina Marie (GA) and Jan

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    DH just left and I'm turning the TV off, maybe. My dog is ready for his walk . . . fresh beautiful air.
    I'm with you.
     
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    Yes, never gets easier as the years go on. Got there on 9/12 at 5am via boat and spent the next 2 months there on 12hr shifts. (I am a fed and was on a boat team & there is a marina at the base of the WTC). The first day there going through the rubble and seeing the devastation up close and the faces of all of the responders. Like it just happened yesterday.
     
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    It's a difficult day. :bighug::bighug::bighug:

    I hope Elmo slides down today.
     
  7. Ti-Mousse (GA) Pepe (GA)

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    It's not something we can forget and we should never forget!!

    Come on Elmo, we understand you're complaining about the blues, but choose another color, Pink maybe but not Black ?
     
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  9. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    Still recall that day so very vividly. It shook us to the core here in Canada too. We will never forget. :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:

    Elmo ...come on down buddy!
     
  10. Beth 73

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    And we remember our Canadian family, ministering to and providing for diverted planes full of people . Canada opened their hearts and homes that day . God bless Canada ❤️
     
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    Some of us want to forget but will never be able to. Every time a low flying plane goes over, I automatically hunker down into a ball. The smell of diesel fuel gives me flashbacks. A piece of paper blowing in the wind reminds me of all the debris falling. I do wish I could forget.
     
  12. Beth 73

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    A million Thank You's to you :bighug:❤️ Words fail to express ....thank you :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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    All the thanks in the world to you. What a beautiful person you were and are, and I'm sorry for the pain you have.
     
  15. Beth 73

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    +2 327 ....223 drop ...feeding every 30 minutes or so ...any slow -Elmo's -roll -by -feeding advice wanted and appreciated !! Also how often should I test considering his history ????:bighug::)@MrWorfMen's Mom @Gill & George. Add in a little MC to LC ??
     
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  16. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    I'd test him again 30 minutes after food to see if he's slowed down or still dropping fast. I take you gave him LC?
     
  17. Beth 73

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    Yes ...2 t with ABs. Put in a smidge of juice from MC 13 ...
     
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    Giving 1 t LC plus smidge MC 13 ....slow your roll , dude Testing in 30 min
     
  20. LizzieInTexas

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    It is a very difficult day for me too. I will never forget. Ever.

    My company was located on the 91st floor of WTC1. Thankfully everyone made it out.

    This is an article/interview that was done by Lloyds of two of our employees. I downloaded it a few years ago - it is no longer available on the web.

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EtFL1W_tDwwMbnfKFU7FK9sLIrQXO9_V
     
  21. Beth 73

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    ❤️:bighug::bighug:
     
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  23. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    If he's still dropping yes I'd mix MC & LC to up the carbs a bit.
     
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  24. Beth 73

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    Least I'm doing this on a full tank of sleep :) Hope you got good nights rest, Auntie Linda :bighug: I was just dealing with Elmo the other night while you were dealing with multiple Elmo's :eek: I am humbled in your presence :bighug:
     
  25. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    I don't deserve that. Just helping out. I slept like a log last night and Myster didn't wake me up with his usual early morning rowling either. Not sure if I slept through it or if he was being nice and quiet for his tired Mom! :woot:
     
  26. Beth 73

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    + 4 177
     
  27. Beth 73

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    Gave 1/2 LC plus 1/2 MC ....test in 30 ....yes ????? Just a 35 point drop in 30 minutes ...mercy mercy mercy...guidance for after next test far as LC MC ??? Testing ?
     
  28. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    YOu got this Beth. Go with your plan. I have to go out shortly so if he doesn't stop dropping and you need more assistance you can always stick the 911 prefix on the title temporarily just to rally more support. I'll check back in when I get back. :bighug:
     
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  29. Beth 73

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    :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug: + 4 162 Staying with 1/2 LC 1/2 MC 13 .....
     
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    You certainly do deserve that Linda. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  32. Beth 73

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    Lovin' to my Myster :bighug:❤️:bighug: Extra scritches, sweet Gpa Man :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  33. Sue and Luci

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    Hi Beth, Take a look at Luci's SS for today...I've been feeding her LC and MC all morning just to keep her from dropping down to see the sharkies face to face. She seems intent on doing that...my feeding info is in the comments.
     
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  34. Beth 73

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    Thank you , thank you, Sue :bighug: It's challenging to get use to seeing how food affects Elmo at times like this ...to slow the drop , encourage surfing without shooting him back up ...I have paper taped to my cabinet with what I did and his response ...it is getting easier :)
     
  35. Beth 73

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    +4.5. 144. LC plus MC 13 Loving the MC :bighug:Test again in 30 minutes ....
     
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  36. Beth 73

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    Gotta learn to stack numbers ...anyone have a very simplified way to tell me , as I tech deficient :rolleyes:
     
  37. Gill & George

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    Sorry Beth struggling with my eyes your doing great.

    I had a feeling he'd clear this morning, though he kept his cards close to his chest with that AMPS. Sneaky blighter.

    I don't think I'll be able to come on later, eyes too sore.:(
     
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  38. Beth 73

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    Take care of yourself , Gill :bighug:❤️ Don't dare come back on til fully healed . And yes, you were totally correct...he is a sneaky little blighter :cat: Get well prayers and vines coming to you afar across the ocean :bighug::bighug:
     
  39. Beth 73

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    +5 161 ...gave more MC than LC at 4.5. Giving small LC only this time to see reaction
     
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    +5.5. 144 ....well poo, Giving 1/2 and 1/2 again ...hide and watch :rolleyes:
     
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  41. Beth 73

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    +6 140 gave 1 t LC plus 1/4 t MC gravy ....how to I know when to stop steering ???
     
  42. LizzieInTexas

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    When typing in the cell to drop to the next "line" press Ctrl + Enter.
    The more data you gain with these test, you will figure out when his Nadir is and you will learn - ECID, as they say. He is slowing down. I would test in 30 min and see where he is at - no food if ~140 (holding). Then test @ +7 and again, no food if hold around the same numbers.
     
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  43. Beth 73

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    :bighug::bighug::bighug: How in the world did you do this and work too ??? Blows my mind! And does the thread title only hold so much then stops ?? I enter on my phone but seems storage of info stops after 3 lines :rolleyes:
     
  44. Beth 73

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    + 6.5 142 ....no food ...test at + 7
     
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  45. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    There is a limited amount of space for the title so allk you can do is eliminate a couple of early readings to accommodate current data but leave pertinent info that shows what has been happening.

    Looks like he's surfing now so no more food for now.
     
  46. Olive & Paula

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    Just put number then comma space number: 45, 47
     
  47. Olive & Paula

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    Yes title is limited. You remove earlier non relevant tests.
     
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  48. Nan & Amber (GA)

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    He's doing well-- nice blue surf, Elmo! And in the daytime too!
     
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  49. Beth 73

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    +7 139.....holding with no steering ....test at + 7.5
     
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  50. Beth 73

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    Thank you, Paula :bighug: Thot it was my phone or me :eek: So you start removing an early test to make room for latest test ? Start by removing AMPS ? Thank you for all your help :bighug:
     
  51. Beth 73

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    Yes, in the day light hours ...when sleep does not occur for me !!! My goal right now is to keep him from diving and causing a black bounce....I'd rather his surfing be higher and hopefully stay away from the dreaded HI snd black ...hate seeing what those do to him ...is that a correct thot process on that ? @Nan & Amber
     
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  52. Nan & Amber (GA)

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    That's the hope-- by slowing the dive and keeping him in more familiar numbers (such numbers to be hopefully decreased over time!), you are trying to put a damper on bounces. Of course, some kitties just like the trampoline no matter what you do :rolleyes:-- let's hope Elmo gets tired of his!
     
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    Also I think I'm seeing that when he does a quick, deep dive that I need to immediately go for , at the least, a LC MC mix....LC doesn't seem to phase him
     
  54. Beth 73

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    Yes yes yes ...if he hits a yellow should I try to keep him there ? Like right now , with no food , he is mid 100s...it's a lovely blue but I'd rather he be higher ...today I've let him be in blue ..will watch his response...think I'd rather he be yellow after dreaded HI and black ...
     
  55. LizzieInTexas

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    Next time, try and not feed at +6 and repeat - you are trying to find his lowest (safe) point and let him surf at that for the longest possible. Food later in the cycle will shorten the affect of the insulin.

    Good boy Elmo!
     
  56. Beth 73

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    +7.5 no food since +6.5 114 ...gave 1 t MC 13 to stave off deep dive ...
     
  57. Beth 73

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    So now leave him be for an hour and see where he is ? He really has no pattern , rhythm or rhyme that I can discern ...it's frustrating ..not sure what to do next ??? Been poking him every half hour most of day ...glad I bought higher gauge lancets :)
     
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    Is steering him to stay in yellow " safe surfing " for Elmo at this point in time ?? Should I steer him away from blues to avoid the black bounce ?? This is the stuff running around in my head ...glad to have y'all for experience and insight :bighug:
     
  59. Beth 73

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    Feel like I'm chasing my tail ..:oops:
     
  60. Nan & Amber (GA)

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    I'm not sure anyone other than Elmo can answer these questions, to be honest! And I don't know that you want to drive yourself too crazy trying to fine-tune these things with a specific target like that-- there are always going to be multiple factors at play and you can't control all of them. Sometimes it's just the speed of the initial drop that does it, for example, no matter where he surfs after that.

    To answer your question, I was looking at Elmo's spreadsheet a bit, and noticed two recent days (9/5 and 9/8) where he never got below yellow but bounced anyway. The 9/8 was noticeably more mild than the 9/5-- maybe he's already starting to get used to the lower numbers?
     
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  61. Nan & Amber (GA)

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    I'm going to revise this slightly. Looked again at 9/8, and I'm not sure that even qualifies as a bounce-- maybe just the regular up-and-down of a cycle. But the point still stands, he is maybe already getting used to yellows, and even dropping from red to yellow in a cycle!
     
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    +8.5 155....last food was at +7.5...1 t MC 13
     
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    Thanks so much , Nan :bighug: Part of this is his age ...not wanting to put him thru a lot for the time that remains ...if he was younger, as he was 3 years ago, yes ....but with an iffy thyroid and iffy kidneys and now this ....Not that we are impatient for immediate results .....we are willing to let this play out for foreseeable future ....just want him comfy ...he is and has been a sweetheart these 19 plus years and is so far tolerating the pokes and prods pretty well ..our goal is his comfort, not to extend his life .....hard to know, hard to know
     
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    I read the article. Sorrow, grief, anger, relief for the survivors, and back to heart rending sorrow. I know there are some people, probably younger people that wouldn't remember "where were you when it happened?" but I will as long as I have memory. Nowhere near the catastrophe, but getting ready for the first day of a new job and watching the news..watching footage of a plane crash into a tower and just horrified.

    Thank you for sharing that article Lizzie, we should not forget.
     
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  65. Tina Marie (GA) and Jan

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    Hi Beth! You don't really want to take the AMPS off your title, but some of those middle tests, like the half hour tests for example. Just my thought! Keep that last 114 though. You want your numbers to tell the story . . .
    You've come a long way already:) I love how you want your sweet Elmo to be comfortable in his elder years.
     
  66. LizzieInTexas

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    I was driving to work. About 10 min away. All I kept thinking was "is it our building? Is it where our office is?" It was confusing because we always called them WTC1/WTC2 vs North & South towers which was how the news was reporting.

    There were very few tv's in the building at that time. No internet (overloaded) so we were all crowded around the tv's in the gym. When our building fell (wtc1/north) we were all crying. We didn't know if they had made it out. I went to the bathroom and threw up.

    The next couple of days were crazy. We went to Frys and bought computers, monitors and printers and then rented a u-haul and a couple of guys drove the stuff up to NJ to set the displaced employees up in our port office there. Our primary hardware vendor hired a truck to drive to Atlanta to pick up more computers and servers in Atlanta and get them to NJ by the time our network guys got there. (Remember all flights were grounded and we knew everything would be back logged). We had the employees back up within a week.

    All the executives from NY were in Houston for board meetings.
     
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  67. Olive & Paula

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    Leave the AMPS. Take out the +2, +3.5, +4, +5 for now as long as they are on the ss. Do keep the +7.5
     
  68. Beth 73

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    Elmo, such nice numbers today. Stay away from the trampoline!:cool:
     
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    PMPS 91 .....:eek: :eek:
     
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    What do I do y'all ?? He has been dropping like a rock all day....I am NOT confident in shooting a 91 ..that I know
     
  73. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    OMG! ELMO! gotta check out SS. BRB.
     
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    Haven't yet put in all half readings ...been too busy testing and feeding ....
     
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    Lowest he went today was 114 and then I fed some MC and he shot back to 155 ...let him alone cos testing all day ..now this :eek:
     
  76. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    Beth, with all the steering you did today to keep him from free falling and with that pre-shot, I'd be reluctant to tell you to shoot that 91. Under normal circumstances with TR you'd work your way down to shooting that number but you've never had such a low pre-shot.

    Have you fed Elmo already? when did you last "prop" him up? I'd at least stall and see if he is rising on his own yet if you haven't fed for at least 2 hours.
     
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    LINDA !!!! You are my sanity !! He nibbled ab half an hour ago ....should I feed him now ? Did recheck test and it was 87
     
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    Propped him at 8.5 when got the 155
     
  79. carfurby (GA)

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    Let me look. Be right back.
     
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    He has been headed this way all day ....tried my best to level him out to at least high blues ...
     
  81. carfurby (GA)

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    Oops. It hadn't refreshed. I see Linda answered.
     
  82. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    One thing we're finding out is that Elmo is still full of surprises! :p
     
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  83. Beth 73

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    This cat !!!!!:woot::woot: :woot:
     
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  84. Nan & Amber (GA)

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    Oh, gosh, Elmo! You really have your own way of doing things, don't you???

    Well, that's flat from the 91, but hardly encouraging if you were thinking of shooting. Was the 87 a "stall" 87 (i.e., after waiting a half hour) or just a "check strip" re-check? If the second, I think stalling (without food) is still worth a shot just in case he'll let you shoot, but I don't have high hopes on this one, given his overall trajectory!
     
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  85. Beth 73

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    Ahhhhhhhhhhh :eek: :eek: :eek: :arghh: :woot:
     
  86. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    I hate to say it but unless you want another potential PJ party (or he may bounce to the moon) I think it's best to skip tonight and drain the depot a bit.
     
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    Was a check strip ....I can recheck in 10 minutes ...
     
  88. Nan & Amber (GA)

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    Oh, and congratulations on another :D.

    Now we just have to have him work on his timing some more [Elmo: "hey, I thought you wanted me to do my diving during the day rather than night-- what more do you want from me???"]
     
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  89. carfurby (GA)

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    I wonder if you should skip to drain the depot and hopefully get some sleep tonight and start again in the morning.
     
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    PJ party I could handle ...possible effects of a close call hypo for him I could not
     
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    That makes me feel good ...Linda said the same thing ..thank you, Carla :bighug:
     
  92. Nan & Amber (GA)

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    I'm on board with a skip. Drain the depot, get a good night's sleep, give his little ears a break...
     
  93. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    That's our Elmo! He did stuff like this last rodeo too Nan! :woot:
     
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  94. carfurby (GA)

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    Even if you skip you'll still want to get a +1 and a +2 tonight because of the depot.
     
  95. Beth 73

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    Yeah !!! All the smart people agree !!! What can he have to eat ??? Is wanting food ...going to check once more ...do I need to try to slow down his drop ??
     
  96. Beth 73

    Beth 73 Well-Known Member

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    74 at + .5
     
  97. carfurby (GA)

    carfurby (GA) Well-Known Member

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    If you're going to skip I'd go ahead a feed either LC or MC. He'll most likely bounce at some point tonight.
     
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  98. carfurby (GA)

    carfurby (GA) Well-Known Member

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    We cross-posted. I'd feed MC.
     
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  99. MrWorfMen's Mom

    MrWorfMen's Mom Well-Known Member

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    He's safe but still dropping so just give him his normal amount of food but MC. Retest 30 minutes.
     
  100. Beth 73

    Beth 73 Well-Known Member

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    Feeding MC now ...will test at +.5 ???? How the heck do you type that ???!!!
     

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