12/2 Gracie Back Home ...what a Roller Coaster

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  1. Marje and Gracie

    Marje and Gracie Senior Member Moderator

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    Gracie’s Yesterday...Welcome Home

    Prayers for Bron and Sheba as well as Minka this morning; great news for Oren!!!!

    Try to be brief: Gracie seemed great yesterday but as the hours progressed, she was breathing through her mouth more and sounded really raspy but she was in a great mood and chatty ...moving all over house. At 4 a.m., she was really, really breathing through mouth so I took her to ER. Everything normal and puls ox 100%. Chest, abdomen, heart looked fine on u/s. DX: URI and treatment was to put her in steamy bathroom so when I got home, I put her in her carrier and steamed up our shower (really large) and she and i sat on the bench where it was dry but a little steam moved through. She seemed better. She was fine at AMPS; ate well out of syringe (because she’s so sniffly, eating from plate is difficult). Mike got up at +2 and was a different cat. Hiding, looked sick, not interested in eating, just wanted to be left alone. He took her back to ER. Will update later.

    I know you’ve really turned on the miracle prayers for us but have to ask for a few more. Thank you so much.
     
  2. suki & crystal (GA)

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    Oh no Marje, sending all the very best miracle prayers I can muster for sweet Gracie. I hope it is nothing that cannot put be right very quickly. Hugs and prayers to you and Mike and for Gracie's complete recovery.:bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  3. Josie & Ripley (GA)

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    Oh poor baby girl. Sending mega vines and positive thoughts, (((Marje, Mike, and Tobes))). ❤️
    :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  4. Lynn & Rupert

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    Oh no, she was feeling so much better yesterday. :( Hope she will be feeling better soon. Sending healing vibes! :bighug:
     
  5. Millie and Cooper

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    Oh nooo. :( Prayers!!
     
  6. Amy&TrixieCat

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    More prayers.....poor Gracie and all of you!
     
  7. carfurby (GA)

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    Sending prayers. :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  8. Doodles & Karen

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    Poor baby girl...please all the kitties in heaven help Gracie feel better! Take care of you and Mike too Marje :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  9. tiffmaxee

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    Oh no! This is not what I expected to read. Prayers and vines haven't atopped for a second and continue. :bighug:
     
  10. Julia Rae

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    Oh.. sweet Gracie... please get better we would miss you so very much and momma bean would be lost with put you. Sending healing vines and warm hugs.
     
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  11. Barb & Checkers (GA)

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    Ohhh Gracie, lots of prayers coming your way. Get better sweet girl.
     
  12. Anne & Zener GA

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    Mega vines from Flagstaff. Big hugs for you and Mike.
    Liz
     
  13. Wendy&Neko

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    West coast Canadian vines on their way by jet. Healing snowflakes coming from the mountain tops. :bighug::bighug:

    Gracie - you can do this, you got the sass and spunk.
     
  14. Judy and Boomer

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    More vines from Canada!! Come on Gracie, show how feisty you are!
    Lots of hugs to Marje and Mike!:bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  15. Marilyn and Polly

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    Prayers. And more prayers.

    Marilyn
     
  16. Melissa & Tarragon

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    Flooding you with prayers and hugs.
     
  17. Paula

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    Gracie, :bighug::bighug:sending you more of my very special healing meows & purrs. I'm so sorry that you are not feeling well.:( Fight Gracie, you can do it. All the kitties & me are fighting with you.
    Cuz michael:cat:
    :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug: Marge, Mike, and Tobey
    Lots of prayers from Calif.
     
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  18. missMeows

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    Oh Marje! I'm so sorry. So many vines and hugs and purrs for you and dear Gracie! Thinking of you all!!!! :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  19. rhiannon and shadow (GA)

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    well you know, i'm praying....

    when they did her ultrasounds, did they look around elsewhere.... like lungs...
    one of my dr's looked all over Shadow ( for free) , it wasn't just a targeted area....
    its like they missed something.....

    sending pulsing hugs , prayers, vines....
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  20. Linda and Bear Man

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    Many more prayers being sent for Gracie.
     
  21. Peg and Toby

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    Mega Prayers and tons of vines being sent to your baby girl. Hugs to you , Mike and Tobey.:bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  22. Ann & Maggie11 (GA)

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    Holding Gracie in my thoughts and prayers. Lots of healing vines and hugs. (((Marje, Mike, Tobey)))
     
  23. Melanie and Smokey

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    Such a rollercoaster of ups and downs for you guys. Many prayers you will be back home with a girl feeling good again soon.
     
  24. Gill & George

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    Poor Gracie, sending prayers from Spain.:bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  25. Olive & Paula

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    Pocono Mountain air and vines coming your way.
     
  26. MrZ

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    Poor LBG. Tons more get better vines and prayers. I hope they can identify the root cause and get her well (and home) soon.

    :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  27. Sharon14

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    Sending prayers for a speedy recovery:bighug:
     
  28. Dyana

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    Sending mega healing vines and feel better vines to Gracie, and hugs to you.
     
  29. Marje and Gracie

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    Dear Aunties and Uncles: please do something about my helicopter parents!! Dey keeps taking me to da bad place and i knows i do much better if dey leave me at home!

    Many thanks for coming by with more prayers and support.

    They had us take her off the cerenia and ondansetron yesterday because she had been eating so well and they are trying to not overload her liver but we think she was doing so well because of the meds. When Mike took her back over, everything was still fine....they did all the same tests and all her vitals were still excellent. Her breathing had improved because of the steam showers but she had some crusties in her little tiny nose that I had not been able to get to. They think she is just feeling bad from the URI (she’s already on clavamox in case it is bacterial) and possible tummy upset. They sent her back home but the vet from hell was there again and she was more helpful (did not discuss diabetes with Mike) and she told Mike she thought we should restart the cerenia because it has so many benefits besides just anti-nausea. She’s been showing some signs of nausea so we’ve restarted all those drugs and I gave her a good dose of aloe vera and water for her tummy. She’s feeling pretty darn punk today but her breathing is much much much better. She’s drinking a ton of water and doesn’t get too far from the water bowls but that’s due to the lasix and the pred which we are decreasing. She’s sitting on one of her cardboard loungers right now and looking outside. Not being in her sick spot is also a good thing. After I get back from running some errands for her, I’m going to steam her again.

    The fantastic news is that the cardiologist (same one that sees Tobey) was able to squeeze her in tomorrow. He comes from Phx every Thursday and was willing to come by our vet clinic and echo Gracie tomorrow so we should have some more definitive news about her heart and her prognosis. We are so very hopeful all these treatments will turn it around....weaning her off pred, the enalapril, and the lasix (hopefully that is short term).

    I don’t think either one of us slept last night except in tiny spurts. We feel we’ve aged ten years this last week but we are hopeful because it’s huge that she’s breathing well and all her stats are staying excellent. Now to get the nausea back under control and pray for a good echo tomorrow. Thank you all so much.

    :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  30. Voula

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    More healing prayers for Gracie and prayers for good results for the echo tomorrow.
     
  31. Wendy&Neko

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    KTSS is on speed dial - on our way!!

    Vines still coming for Gracie and her echo tomorrow. :bighug::bighug: Paws crossed the mean time between vetty visits increases. And that you find the right mix of meds for her to feel better and stay that way.
     
  32. Judy and Boomer

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    Oh I was so relieved for you when I saw the title "Gracie back home"!
    More healing vines and breathing vines coming to Gracie from Canada! You and Mike are amazing beans to her!
     
  33. Josie & Ripley (GA)

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    Sending healing vines her way. And vetty vines for tomorrow's echo. And rest vines for you and Mike.
    :bighug:

    Gracie: hate to tell you this, but you have lots of L/L auntie- and unclebeans helicoptering around you right now. Get better, little girl.
     
  34. carfurby (GA)

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    I'm so glad she's back home. Great you can get the echo done tomorrow. I hope you can balance everything out so she'll feel better. Sending hugs and prayers. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  35. Tara & Ivana (GA)

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    Thinking of you both Gracie and Marje :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  36. suki & crystal (GA)

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    Whew, what a roller coaster for you all. Vines for tomorrow's echo and a good result.
     
  37. Linda and Bear Man

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    She's a complicated and sensitive kitty with a lot going on right now, so you are doing exactly what she needs you to do. Keeping a close eye on her status and fine tuning her meds is going to help her come through this. You are the best parents a kitty could have. I'm still sending every prayer I have here.
     
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  38. rhiannon and shadow (GA)

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    how do i click Like on the new subject line.....
     
  39. Anne & Zener GA

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    All of us in LL and beyond in the FDMB world are riding along with LBG and her beloved beans.
     
  40. Vyktors Mum

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    Gracie you need to be turning psycho kitty at da vets. I go so psycho dat my lips turn blue and my mumbean is too scared to take me dere. da vet doesn't want to see me either I convinced dem dat I be going to hab a heart attack any second. You start wif dat vet from hell ok, claws and teefs eberywhere all at once and some of dat famous stinkeye - Vyktor

    Don't you listen to him Gracie! Well maybe you can throw in a little stinkeye but other than that - don't you listen to him!

    Sending vines for her echo and for general wellbeing and so many more :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug: for you and Mike.
     
  41. Megan & Oren

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    these roller coasters are no fun at all. Sending all prayers, hugs and well wishes for the ride to end. Lots of vines for a good echo tomorrow and some good rest for all the Gracie beans. :bighug::bighug:
     
  42. Ann & Maggie11 (GA)

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    Sending positive thoughts, vines and prayers for a good echo tomorrow. Hope you both can get some rest tonight. :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  43. Sienne and Gabby (GA)

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    You must be emotionally wrung out. Please take care of yourself, too.
     
  44. Olive & Paula

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    Glad to hear your home again... Would a vaporizer work for her?
     
  45. Anne & Hyde (GA)

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    Phew, what a day, who am I kidding, what a week. Sending additional vines and hugs for all involved:bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  46. Barb & Checkers (GA)

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    Oh Gracie, you have so much love coming at you.:bighug: from all over the world. You are such a lucky kitty to have such wonderful mommy and daddy beans, taking good care of you.
    Love and lots of prayers, from Aunty Barb.
     
  47. Millie and Cooper

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    More prayers and healing vines!! So glad she's home again and is showing improvement. I hope you can get a little rest tonight.
     
  48. ctmorris

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    More prayers and good thoughts coming her way. Hang in there and if you need to steam her - I used to put my kitty Xena under a towel with me and a humidifier. Seemed to deliver the best steam results. I tried the bathroom but seemed that all the steam went to the ceiling and not much down by the kitty and me. I used to have a pretty big bathroom.

    Hang in there! Hoping she starts feeling better soon!
     
  49. Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey

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    Oh my, what a hellacious ride you've been on, Marje! Sorry I haven't been online, so I didn't know, but you and Gracie have been in my constant thoughts and prayers the whole time, anyway. I pray that getting the nausea meds back in place will help her feel better now, and getting rid of the Pred will finish that job. Vetty vines for tomorrow. You are blessed with some wonderful medical help (even that closed-minded vet turns out to be okay as long as it's not FD-related!). I hope you and Mike can take turns getting some sleep tonight.

    Vines, prayers and :bighug::bighug::bighug:s will be on a continuous drip to Tucson all night long.
     
  50. Doodles & Karen

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    I couldn't imagine....very difficult times for all of you. Ask about Anzemet..when Doodles was at his worst it did help. It's basically a anti-nausea med that is injectable. In the meantime our prayers are with you all and hope for a little more sleep tonight and Gracie feels better soon.
     
  51. Ella & Rusty & Stu(GA)

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    Yo Gracie, the roller coaster is a bit extreme, don't you think? KTSS is ready with chicken soup and the spa treatment. Be there in a jiffy. Feel lots better this evening!
    Your friend,
    Rusty

    Marje & Mike :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:, we know how draining this must be for you. But Gracie is strong and she has courage and she will get through this. It's good that she'll be able to have the echo tomorrow. We are thinking positively and sending more beautiful vines, snowflakes, and prayers. Try to get some rest, guys!

    Hugs, scritches, and love,

    Ella, Edward, and Rusty
     
  52. Marycatmom

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    Oh man! What a day! I hope things will settle down soon. It's just not fair that she got a URI on top of everything else.
     
  53. tiffmaxee

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    More prayers for a normal echo tomorrow. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  54. Ok, ms. gracie.....no more DRAMA!!! You are abowt to cause Mom & Dad to go prematurely gray! One more time to the bad place tomorrow so they can listen for yor echo, and thats enuf! You need to be all better and settled by Friday mornin so you can hisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss at 'Pita, and then everone wil know that you are back to being just your normal LBG self.

    Love and headbonks,
    Ms. Polly
     
  55. Asrael

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    So glad she is home with you all. Vines for tomorrow for the echo- and lots of cuddles and sleeps for tonight:)
     
  56. mariko

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    What a day for you all!
    I couldn't post earlier, but I've been thinking of Gracie and checking on this condo and riding this roller coaster with you.
    I'm glad Gracie didn't have to stay, and is home with you.
    You must be exhausted... both Marje and Mike.
    Please take care of yourself, and don't forget to eat!
    Continue to send positive thoughts and healing vines.
    :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  57. BJM

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    Check if this is OK with your vet.
    The eyes drain into the sinuses.
    Giving sterile, preservative-free (no sting) moisturizing drops in the eyes may help loosen up the mucus in the sinuses to help it drain.
    One such product in the US is Systane. You can get it in a small vial, or individually packaged droppers.
    (Works for humans, too.)
     
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  58. Marje and Gracie

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    Thank you all so much for your thoughts and suggestions. I did try a vaporizer with nothing but water. It just didn't do the trick. I also got her down lower in the shower with a towel over her carrier and that seemed to work best. She actually sounds pretty good tonight but she is feeling really bad. They had us stop the cerenia and ondansetron because they are processed through the liver and she seemed to be doing well. I think it was a big mistake.....she just feels terrible. It breaks our hearts. Hopefully she can pull it together enough to so see the cardiologist tomorrow.

    I probsbly won't be back on tonight....watching her closely. :bighug::bighug:
     
  59. You go watch your baby girl! Just don't fall asleep in the shower. :D

    Hugs,
    Carl
     
  60. Lydia--(Rosie & Basil) GA

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    Healing vines coming your way from Connecticut.
     
  61. Anne & Zener GA

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    Crossing our paws that everyone gets some healing sleep tomorrow. Sending snowflakes and healing vines for the echo tomorrow.
     
  62. marniepaul & miles

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    What a courageous girl you have! Keep breathing, Gracie...hang in there and let the cardiologist help you tomorrow.
     
  63. Wendy&Neko

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    The small vial has preservatives, the individually packaged droppers do not. I found out the hard way.

    We had two really stuffed persians in the shelter that got a dropper of saline solution in the nose. Sort of like kitty neti-pots.

    Sending vines for a restful night, and a chance for the helicopters to land for a while for refueling. :bighug: Good echo vines also on the way.
     
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  64. MrZ

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    Vines for a peaceful, restful and uneventful evening. May tomorrow bring nothing but positive news.
     
  65. BJM

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    Now, the Systane preservative-free ones are labeled. They come packaged in the little droppers. The twist of tip can be replaced on the tip of the dropper, if you don't use all of it.
    Here
     
  66. Rachel & Chyna (GA)

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    More vines, hugs, and prayers. Thinking of you all:bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  67. AZJenks

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    May tomorrow be filled with good news for you and continued improvement for Gracie. C'mon girl, you're almost over the hump!!!

    For chuckles, here's a cat steaming itself:

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  68. Suzi_S

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    Sending lots of prayers and vines to Gracie
     
  69. Dyana

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    Vines, prayers, and good thoughts for Gracie today.
     
  70. Marilyn and Polly

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    Prayers keeps coming.

    Marilyn
     
  71. Amy&TrixieCat

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    Prayers, prayers, and more prayers....
     
  72. Marje and Gracie

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    At vet...:Gracie's BP dropped too low last night so I rushed her over and they kept her. I think she's stable now so they will send her home and she sees the cardiologist this afternoon. I hope he's got another heart drug in his pocket that doesn't affect her BP.
     
  73. carfurby (GA)

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    Sending more prayers. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  74. Lisa and Do Lou (GA)

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    more prayers and healing vines:bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  75. Michelle and Mannie (GA)

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    many many vines for our girl. Keeping you all in my thoughts today. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  76. mariko

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    I'm so sorry you had to take her back to the vet last night, but glad she's stable now.
    Holding positive thoughts for today's appointment with the cardiologist.
    Sending many more vines and prayers to Gracie.
    :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  77. Patricia & Noodle

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    Sending lots of positive thoughts to AZ today. You must be exhausted, hope you're able to take care of yourself a bit through all this. :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  78. missMeows

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    Oh my, Marje! I hope this is just a bad cold that Gracie has gotten and it will all clear up soon. So many vines and good thoughts and purrs coming you way. You're in our thoughts! :bighug:
     
  79. Millie and Cooper

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    Oh my goodness, what a roller coaster. :( I hope the cardiologist has some good info and suggestions. More prayers!
     
  80. Peg and Toby

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    Keeping Gracie in our prayers today.
     
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  81. Ella & Rusty & Stu(GA)

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    More vines for Gracie's cardio appointment and echo today. We're sorry that she had to go back to the hospital last night, but it was surely important that she did.
    Marje and Mike: thinking of you. I hope you were able to get some rest.

    Hugs, scritches,

    Ella & Rusty
     
  82. Lisa and Do Lou (GA)

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    more vines and prayers for that sweet girl:bighug:
     
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