12/13 Myagi amps 178, +2 126, +4 61, +5 71, +6 86, +8.5 117, +10 193, pmps 165 redx to 0.1u, +2 145

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  1. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

    Myagi (GA) and Heidi Well-Known Member

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    http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/12-12-myagi-amps-306-2-245-5-206-pmps-292-3-5-287.187923/

    Amps 178, 0.25u, eating but much less, also he's being both normal and a little weird/ skittish. Meaning he's running under bed when I go to him but once i show him treats he comes out let's me pick him up and then acts normal.

    Also I had to take cold medicine middle of night and slept through food pick up alarm so not sure if that 178 that I really wanted is a real number. Will be watching him to be sure. Paws crossed!
     
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    +2 126..... please behave please behave please behave please behave
     
  3. Chris & China (GA)

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    Slow it down a little there Myagi......the lagoon is a great place to be, but there's no rush!!

    A nice saunter down there is the best ....not a full out run!!!
     
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    He's running!! +4 61. Feed regular or give 11%? @Chris & China
     
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    Since you're doing SLGS, you could go with a little 11% and try to slow him down

    Retest in 30 minutes
     
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    Ok!
     
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    He didn't want it. Put some zero on it. Eating. Will test half hour.
     
  9. Wendy&Neko

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    You don't want to feed higher carbs, later in the cycle, when the insulin has slowed down. You don't have enough data to say yet, but looks like Myagi might nadir earlier than +6. In that case, I might have gone with a higher LC. Glad you didn't go with the high carb. Just noticed he didn't eat, maybe he's done dropping. Good idea to test in 30.

    Congrats on the reduction. :DLooks like you get to try practicing drawing up 0.1 units next. [​IMG]
     
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    I did do a teaspoon of 11% but had to put a couple zero crunchie on top. Love your pic! Dread trying to do that! Lol. This is so new for us I haven't found his nadir yet - earlier might be why. :confused:
     
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    All his regular food is less than 3 carbs. It's been suggested I switch him to like a 6 carb for regular eating. I've read here that all the under 10s have roughly the same impact. Suggestions?
     
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    He's not very happy right now. He knocked the fd chicken over and didn't dive in. He went to water bowl (almost never does anymore) and pawed it but didn't drink. I freshened his soup for him and he's drinking/ eating it now.

    He's gone back under bed. Def not himself.
     
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  14. Wendy&Neko

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    He's probably just feeling uncomfortable being in lower numbers than used to. The first few times Neko spent in green she hid under the bed. Someone described it like coffee (high blood sugar) - you feel crumby when you don't have your fix. He will get used to it over time. Looks like he's stopped dropping and is surfing now. :D

    Anything under 10 is low carb. ECID on how carb sensitive a cat is - some notice difference between 3-4% nd 8-9%, some don't.
     
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    I get that. I'm a pot (coffee) a day gal, so I get that analogy.
    I'm missing work for his shenanigans (grateful to be with him of course!) So hopefully he'll surf and let me get out later to get some mid carb and more hc food (and replace the fd chicken!). Should have stock in test strips!!!! :rolleyes::banghead::rolleyes:
     
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    +6 86, mood improving a little.
     
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    Good boy Myagi!!

    That's a beautiful surf you got going there!!!
    surfing cats...we take our surfing seriously.png
     
  18. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    Any recommendations for pmps if still surfing under 150?
     
  19. Chris & China (GA)

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    he's earned the reduction down to .1....I'd suggest practicing!!...LOL

    It will depend on how much below 150 too
     
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    I know you're busy with seidan. Hope that goes ok. Praying. I'll post everything and if you're around, great. If not, I get it. Love and appreciate you @Chris & China
     
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    +8.5 117. He wouldn't come out from under bed for+8 for nothing! Hissed and ran deeper when i tried. Then the green monster got the best of him (He heard Millie eating 8% evo) and out he came!
     
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    ain't it funny how that works?....LOL
     
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    +10 193

    So does all mommy's hard work count as a curve or no because he hasnt been on the dose long enough?????

    So likely yellow pmps, starts reduction anyway right?
     
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    Don't really need a curve.....He earned the reduction, curve or not!!

    Any time he drops below 90 on SLGS, he gets reduced, no matter how much you test. Curves are most important for increases, not reductions
     
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  25. Wendy&Neko

    Wendy&Neko Senior Member Moderator

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    Yes, start reduction right away.

    You can call it a curve if you want, but not sure what the value is, other than gathering good data about onset and nadir (always valuable).
     
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  26. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    One more question. After his pmps, I have to get out for some errands. +2 or +4 (likely nadir) more important? I'll have to miss one of them. My preference is to miss the +2 in case +4 is big drop but I'll defer to wiser minds.
    @Chris & China. @Wendy&Neko
    Thanks!!
     
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    with his tendency to nadir early, I think I'd go for the +2

    that way if he's dropping too quickly, you can feed and hopefully slow him down
     
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  28. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    Thank you!
     
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    Pmps 165, 0.1u shot, eating ok. Was near impossible to get him out but seems fine, much better than earlier. Is the drop the depot? Thought he'd be higher.
     
  30. Chris & China (GA)

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    Probably the infamous Lantus "double dip".....it happens a lot

    They have a 2nd drop later in the cycle, but not as low as the nadir
     
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  31. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    Fabulous!!! More stuff to not understand! Lol. Wow! :p:cat:;)
     
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  32. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    +2 145. Putting food on board!
     
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    Not a big drop.....maybe he'll do that "saunter" thing tonight like we suggested this morning.....LOL
     
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    I think I loves you. :p:D Lovely to read I'm not the only one :eek:
     
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