911 3/9 Belle, AMPS 278, PMPS 203

yesterdays post http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/3-8-belle-amps-187-pmps-186.192282/

AMPS @ 12PM, BG 278
0.75u + meal (didn't eat much)

 

Sending eating vines and feel better vines to Belle.
What did the vet say? I hope the vet gives him something to help with his appetite.

 

I hope the vetty visit went well and Belle's appy picks up. Sending prayers.

 

bad news
here is a copy of Belle's blood test results (PDF also attached)
vet said his kidney disease has progressed to a serve level
and needs more sub-Q if not hospitalized with IV
and needs to get him to eat
(no ketones tho)

 

dinner 630pm, again didn't eat much
he's been in the meatloaf position yesterday and today, i believe he is crashing
http://www.felinecrf.org/symptoms.htm
might need hospitalization, but i can't afford it.

1.5 unit of sub-Q fluid

PMPS @ 1130pm, BG 203
0.5u BCS
(tried to get some food in him)

 

What did the vet give you to help him eat? Did he mention assist feeding Belle? Here is a video that helped me a lot How To Assist Feed.
Hugs to you and loving skritches to Belle. I wish @Marje and Gracie were around now, but she is out with family matters. She knows a lot about kidney issues.

 

Phosphorus level is way too high! wow! Are you using any type of phos binder? Bun and Creat are high but those you can work on. That phos level will make him feel yucky too.

You should be able to get a feeding syringe from the vets (like these: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00KIBY...colid=VIDIU965QO24&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it)

Do you have any anti-nausea meds (Cerenia, Ondansteron)?

Got to get her eating something.

 

Sending prayers.

 

Sending more prayers to Belle!

 

Prayers, hugs, and vines for Belle and you!

 

have you tried other things such as a scrambled egg, or deli meat ( no sugar ham)
some cats love fried chicken, just peel the fried skin off.

I have some ondansetron if you can just syringe feed her for now.... I could get it in the mail.

 

We cook chicken tenders as a supplement. They are inexpensive, and easy to bake. The kittehs go nuts for them.

Tanya's webpage does show the meatloaf position. Her page also indicated improvement after 4 days of intense rehydration therapy. Healing vines to you and your sweet kitteh Belle.

 

@icesnow
If not - I have extra at home and can share. I am S Ca so it'll reach you fast in the Bay area. Let me know by PM.
Hopefully SQf for a week or so will help. Sending healing vines.

 

I also can send some feeding syringes, and have a few tablets of Cerenia and some cans of Iams Maximum Calorie (if those are okay for kidney cats). I am in New Jersey, so mine would take longer to arrive. Let me know.
When you assist feed, you can get the phosphorus binder in the food.
Sending healing vines to Belle.

 

Thanks everyone

I am using Fortiflora to try to get him to eat. it works with just the top layer and he stops once that top layer is gone.
Then I thought of how i usually feed him pill, i just roll the food into small ball and put in it directly in his mouth aiming his throat. got a bit of food into him earlier today.

He is going to another vet today for 2nd opinion, the other vet wasn't very good, being very
obscure.

btw, AMPS @ 1145am, BG 284, 0.5u

will enter it in a new log later

 

I have to agree 100% with your vet. He does need to be in the hospital on IV fluids. That’s the only way you can get that creatinine down and, even then, it’s not 100% guaranteed. Subq fluids are not going to do it. I know this from experience.

But what worries me even more is that high phosphorus. That can cause him to have mouth and tummy ulcers. That and the calcium multiplied together puts him at high risk for tissue calcification. The P has to come down. If he isn’t eating, that will make it come down to a certain degree but that’s not the situation we want (him not eating). Adding cooked egg whites to his food might help but often when the P gets this high, it’s tough to get them to eat the renal diets which are really, really low in P and what he needs. Anything you do get in him should have the correct amount of phosphorus binder in it (as prescribed by the vet). In my experience, aluminum hydroxide is the best one but, again, the vet needs to work with you on how much to put in his food. It only works by breaking down the P in the food so it’s not something you give him orally.

Truly....the best chance for him is to be in the hospital on IV fluids. While he’s there, I’d have them ultrasound his kidneys and see if he has any infection. Kidney infections can really cause the creatinine to jump but not the P level.

I’m so sorry, Helena.

 

Vines for a good and helpful vet today. Keep getting that food into him.

 

Thanks for everyone's input (i hvn't got a chance to read everyone's message yet)
Being running round different vets today
Belle is being hospitalize at a 24-hr emergency vet hospital

(3/10)

 

That is good news. I hope the IV fluids help get the problems resolved.
More healing vines for you and your sweet kitteh Belle.

 

Sending vines to all of you that whatever treatment Belle is receiving will do the job.

 

THanks!! i believe i still have some left over from crisis from my other cat (2.5 yrs ago)
it is a bit sticky, but it should still do the job
i will reach out to u if the ones i hv doesn't work out

 

i m catching up on everyone's messages, and here is today's log

http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/3-10-belle-amps-284.192384/