Pig 8/12 amps 231; +2 346; +5 250; +7 156; +8 149; +10 79

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  1. LuvinThisPig

    LuvinThisPig Well-Known Member

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    Yesterday's

    How many days does it take a kitty to become unacclimated to a protein??? Precisely six. Six days. That is all. Well, at least for this kitty because, oh my lands.. :rolleyes: *Sigh* Okay, I might not be right in this, but hear me out.

    One thing I have learned about Pig is that what goes in seriously effects his BGs, but not just in the sense of carb count = higher sugar. In the sense that he is very sensitive to input. Very. Well, so I had him fairly well acclimated to the pork. At least I thought I did. We never really saw solid poos on it and his numbers were fairly erratic. Granted, this could have been a by-product of SRT.

    Okay, so then I learned that the company I purchase food from will not always have certain proteins in stock and decided that I needed to acclimate him to at least one more protein to avoid any unexpected changes. Intro the lamb. We had the initial intro period of higher numbers and spots of nausea. When that chilled out, he was pooping like I have never seen before. Of course, his numbers were still higher and a bit more erratic owing to the constipation. Gave lactulose and all was well. Then he hit a reduction.

    Well, okay. So right after the reduction I started giving pork again, because he should have not developed anyting to it in the short time he was away from it. Six days with pork cutlets to maintain his tolerance. Numbers went nuts. Was it the depot being drained? Instability from the BCS? Certainly could and can be. To be honest, I still do not know for sure what it is.

    However, I decided to try a thing. I gave only Lamb after ps last night. I gave pork at ps this morning. I gave only lamb today. Numbers magically fixed themselves. Could it be the depot settling? Could it be the protein? I have no clue.

    What I do know is that I am going to stick with just the lamb for now and give Lactulose to combat constipation, because really his poo was glorious and this speaks to health for me. Then, after we see a good solid run of good numbers, I will include the pork. Slowly. I want to eliminate everything else as a possibility. I need to know for sure if he is that sensitive to dietary changes or if it is merely the wonky depot playing games with my head.

    **Side note - he became pretty nauseous immediately after restarting the pork. Licking litter and drinking a ton of water. Same as with the dirt and when I tried SEB. Even if input is not effecting the numbers so dramatically, they do effect how he feels. **
     
  2. Wendy&Neko

    Wendy&Neko Senior Member Moderator

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    Another explanation. Six cycles after the BCS, the depot is full, you are seeing what this.dose can do.:D
     
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  3. LuvinThisPig

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    Yes! I think this is what I meant about instability, like you were talking about last night. Although, I am thinking to keep things the same and once he is less bouncy (if I can achieve that) then I can play with proteins. For now, though, I am hoping that this 8u is a good dose for a bit. But, if he hits another reduction I will likely skip the BCS - see if I can maintain that depot a little better.
     
  4. LuvinThisPig

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    Guys... I am getting epically concerned. A 413 @ +2? He has not seen a number like that since the beginning. @Wendy&Neko could this just be a horrific bounce or could something else be going on? His appetite is great, but he does seem extremely tired. I am so freaking worried.
     
  5. Wendy&Neko

    Wendy&Neko Senior Member Moderator

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    It's just one number. Worry if it continues the rest of the cycle, otherwise just hit your head against the wall. We are interested in trends, not so much single data points. Did he hear a loud noise, get frightened by the room mate, so many reasons for a single high number. Did you retest? It likely is somewhat true given your Pig report. Once Pig gets used to lower numbers, which he is, he is going to feel like crap in high numbers.

    The insulin will onset soon and he will come back down. :bighug: I honestly hardly tested at all after preshot and before onset, especially if trending up into preshot. Except maybe if she was lower green at preshot.
     
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  6. LuvinThisPig

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    I am beating my head against the wall right now for not retesting... I saw that number and freaked out. :banghead::banghead::banghead:. Can you just come and live with me and act as my voice of reason?

    You know... I gave him his Lactulose at +1 then tested @ +2... I haven't seen it increase numbers as of yet, though.

    He seems to be climbing back down now. I panicked. I'm not going to lie. I imagine he will be a spot higher until the Lactulose starts to move things again. I stopped giving it with pork bc he didn't need it.

    So, probably a bounce and a spot of constipation... I certainly hope so.
     
  7. Bobbie And Bubba

    Bobbie And Bubba Well-Known Member

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    I would have retested when a number that is so out of place appears. Try not to freak; it's one number. And sometimes it's a odd ball test.
     
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  8. Wendy&Neko

    Wendy&Neko Senior Member Moderator

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    What's the rowing like in Oklahoma near you? I'm addicted to mountains and the ocean where I live.

    Seriously though, I can tell you care a lot about Pig. :bighug: I needed outside activities such as rowing, hiking, gardening, or anything to take my mind away from FD for a while and destress. Seldom is an FD issue so urgent it must be dealt with right away. So often time makes things much clearer.
     
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  9. JeffJ

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    You know they are right. A number or a few bad numbers could just be an anomaly.

    Maybe Pig did it on purpose to see if he would get some extra attention - if that was even possible without you being surgically attached to him!:eek::D

    Pig is at 8-9 units. He has had an amazing response to the SRT.

    Look at Leo's numbers. He has been on the exact doses since July 27. Lots of great blues, but bouncing around. I'll call that "regulated", at least for Leo. Heck - it only took me Three Years to get him there.:D:rolleyes:
     
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  10. LuvinThisPig

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    I know.. I really should have. :( It just so hard sometimes to not be consumed by the moment. I see red and think "oh god..."
     
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  11. LuvinThisPig

    LuvinThisPig Well-Known Member

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    Nonexistent. But, we do have Cruise Nights where you can behave like road laws do not exist... So, there is that. :p

    He is my everything. Seriously, one day I will have to tell the tale of how Pig and I came to be. It is a hauntingly inspiring one and not one I will ever forget. I have been through a tremendous amount of personal tragedy in my life, but through it all (for the past 11 years) these boys have been the only stable part. They are my rocks. I do care very much about both of these guys. Really, they are the only thing that I can definitively count on and they never really require anything but me in return. My centers. My two boys and my little girl. My whole life is about those 3.

    I agree. I need to find a way to pull back from it a bit. I try, but everything I have is either work or school which give me plenty of stress all their own. I have not found time for anything over that. I think it is less the number that worries and more what might be causing it - ie. infection, pain, or something else more serious. I tend to panic. I have Pig for a reason and he is trained for that reason, as crazy as that sounds. Its hard when he is not feeling good. The stress and worry tear me up.
     
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  12. LuvinThisPig

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    Surgical attachment... hmmm.. Now, that is an idea! I don't think Pig would be all that happy about it, though.. :p

    I know, it was just a fluke. I just can't help but react. Red is such an ugly color.

    He really has done amazing, I just am super on alert after the last labs. Not to mention, he is on so many meds to manage this bladder it worries me. Two different BP meds used to lower BP. I worry that his is going to low and his heart is working overtime to compensate for that. Yet, I know I am worrying overly much. I have had 2 separate vets friends over his vet assure me it is fine and that the benefits outweigh the unlikely side effects..

    You are very patient. I, apparently, am not. I see an issue and my first thing is to attack it. Fix it. When I can't I feel so helpless. I know, there is seldom anything in life that falls under our control except for our actions and my actions are doing the best they can. :)
     
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  13. LuvinThisPig

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    Thanks guys! You all make me feel so much better! :bighug::bighug::bighug: I would be nowhere without all of you!
     
  14. JeffJ

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    You're doing great. Balancing lots of work, family stuff, cat stuff, and going to college in addition. That is a huge load for anyone.

    Pig is doing good. His numbers aren't perfect. His gut is not perfect. He is generally healthy though, and that long term trend is just getting better.:bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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