08/29/18 Squallie AMPS 117, +5/73

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  1. Squalliesmom

    Squalliesmom Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, I don't know how much longer I will be posting Squallie's FD stats, they have kind of taken a back seat to other, more pressing concerns. I believe we are down to days, rather than weeks.

    His vet has offered to treat him with prednisolone, a last-ditch effort to shrink this mass. The problem is, it carries a huge risk of ulceration, potentially a perforating ulcer; that would be the end, no questions asked. Squallie is at even more risk since he has been on piroxicam. I have spoken to someone whose cat had a perforating ulcer after being on prednisolone; it's not pretty. I do not want to do anything that might cause him pain or distress. Does anyone have any first-hand information regarding prednisolone, good or bad? If I am only going to extend his life by a few days or so, I do not think the risk is worth it. I really don't want to make this decision, but I do not want him to suffer in any way. If, on the other hand, it provides him relief and gives him a few more happy weeks, I would definitely put him on it. Please. weigh in, especially if you have found yourself in this same situation. I love my boy so much, I can't even imagine...
     
  2. FurBabiesMama

    FurBabiesMama Well-Known Member

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    I am sorry to hear things are at this point. Sending you lots of :bighug:
     
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  3. Squalliesmom

    Squalliesmom Well-Known Member

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    Thank you. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  4. Beck and Philly

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    Have you asked about depo medrol? Not sure if it would have the same impact on a mass, but I give monthly injections of that instead of daily oral steroids for my cats with allergies. I did give daily prednisolone to a cat with cancer several years ago instead of chemo. I can't say if it helped the cancer. I gave daily prednisone to my dog with Addison's Disease for a few years.
     
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  5. Beth 73

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    I have no knowledge on such matters, Lucy but do so much wish I did . ❤️ I pray he has many comfy days with you and that in the middle of it all you both have peace . My heart is breaking for Squallie , for you ....I truly have no words . Sending love and hugs and prayers and scritches to sweet Stripey Man.... so wish there was more I could do :bighug:❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️.
     
  6. Krystina & Nelli

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    Lucy,
    You and Squallie are in my thoughts and in my prayers... have been for days. The power of prayer is strong and real.
    :bighug::bighug::bighug:

     
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  7. Shoeskitty-GA

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    You must do what you think is best Lucy! I support you either way! Honestly, I would probably do the same thing if I were in your position. You and Squallie are in my heart and prayers!
    :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  8. Sharon14

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    Oh Lucy, I wish I had some answers for you. I will send all the prayers, vines and positive thoughts that I can to you and sweet Squallie:bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  9. Carol & Murphy (GA)

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    Lucy I too have no answers but know that we are all here for you and Squallie
    Sending every positive vibe I have into the universe for you and the little man
     
  10. PussCatPrince - GA

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    ... and we love you and Squalls. We'll be here . You take all the time you need in the days and weeks to come but do not go entirely missing missus.

    I've no wise knowledgeable words re pred. It comes down to what you feel will make Squalls the most comfy for the time that he still has.

    I did go and read that the mix of pred with peroxicam is consider somewhat toxic to the gastro system if used together as they interact. However I also read that peroxicam in itself can cause gastro problems and bleeding

    Is he off the peroxicam now Luce?

    All corticosteroids come with risk & given Squalls age a very short course would be the order of the day if you do decide to go with this.

    What do you feel that your vet is really saying to you.
    Is he offering the pred as he feels it will be of help to Squall right at this moment, despite any risks .
    Is he offering the pred as a help but is underlining the risks to maybe have you not choose this.



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  11. Kris & Teasel

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    I'm so sorry you're facing all this. I can't weigh in on the pred issue but I can tell you that I had a kitty on dexamethasone (very powerful steroid) for over two years with no ulcer issues. She didn't become diabetic either.
     
  12. carfurby (GA)

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    Has the HV given you any alternatives? The remedies the HV sent for Simba helped keep her comfortable and gave me about three more months with her.

    My civvie Kitty has a granuloma on her tongue. She has been getting prednisolone for several years now to keep it under control and hasn't had any problems with it.

    Sending prayers for you to make a wise decision. We are here for you. :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  13. Sue and Luci

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    Sending prayers and vines for you both...so sorry to hear this...:bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  15. Ella & Rusty & Stu(GA)

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    Dear (((Lucy))), We faced this decision just a short time ago. We knew that Rusty was failing, but every time we thought it was "time", he rallied. We were glad we waited a little while. Our main concern was that we wanted to assist his passing. We did not want to cause him to be killed. That is a big difference. Rusty made it clear to us when he was ready to leave. Squallie will tell you, and you will know. Do not be afraid.

    Thinking of you and sending prayers for strength.

    :bighug::bighug::bighug:s for you and scritches for Squallie

    p.s. Depo Medrol is what Rusty was getting (1 injection every 30 days). It helped him with his sinus congestion. I don't know what effect it might have on Squallie's tumor. Perhaps ask the vet what he thinks.
     
  16. Beth 73

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    :bighug:❤️ Love and prayers sent from Elmo and I . Holding you both close in my heart .
     
  17. Marje and Gracie

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    :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug: We are all here for you both.
     
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  18. Krystina & Nelli

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    Sending you barrels of strength, comfort and, peace :bighug:,
    Krystina and Nelli
     
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  19. Bobbie And Bubba

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    Hugs and more hugs to you and Squallie. :bighug: I don't have any knowledge of the prednisolone and wish it was a clear cut decision to make.

    Sending you love, light, and strength.
     
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  20. GA Carol & Dante

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    Ugh, I wish I had some knowledge about what you are dealing with, I can only offer prayer. Squallie loves you, Squallie is so loved. You are doing the best you can with the information you have, so take care of Squallie as only you can and please don't forget to take care of yourself in the process.
     
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  21. Sonia & Leo

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    Sending love to you and Squallie. I'm so sorry you're going through this, you're constantly in our thoughts. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  22. Tracey&Jones (GA)

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    Prayers for you and Squallie.

    For Jones pred was life saving...for others it is not. I wish I had an answer for you.
     
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  23. Jill & Jade

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    Sharing in your grief...such a heavy heart for you. Sending much love to you and your stripey boy...
     
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  24. tiffmaxee

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  25. Beth 73

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    :bighug:❤️
     
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    Sending you strength and vines for poor little Squallie. So sorry to hear of his situation and wish I could help with the treatment but I'm not familiar with it. We all know what it's like when our loved kitties take a turn. You know we feel your hurt too, and send prayers.
     
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  28. PussCatPrince - GA

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    Morning L.

    loves M
     
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  29. Bellasmom

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    I am sorry you are having to go through this Lucy, you guys are in my prayers everyday, I wish desperately I had the answers for you, he is in the best of hands and that’s you, you will know:bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  30. Carol & Murphy (GA)

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    Thinking of you and Squallie, Lucy sending love
     
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  31. Osha

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    Oh Lucy.....sending you and Squallie lots of love, prayers, hugs and headbutts.:bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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    Piling on more vines and hugs :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  33. Becky & Baby Girl GA

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    Sending thoughts & prayers for you & Squallie!
    :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  34. Beck and Philly

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    Squallie-man, you have quite a following! Hugs, Aunt Lucy!
     
  35. Chubba (GA)

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    I’m so sorry that Squallie is in this situation. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  36. Bronx's dad (GA)

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    Lucy, my prayers and thoughts are with you & Squallie :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  37. Beth 73

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    Holding you both tightly in our hearts ❤️ Praying and believing Squallie and you, dear Lucy, can draw strength, peace and calm from the love being sent by all of us :bighug: Good night, Super Senior Stripy Squallie .... we love you and continue to pray ❤️
     
  38. Idjit's mom

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    Lucy, you and Squallie are in my thoughts all day. Beth is right, we are all with you.
     
  39. Manu & Porto

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    I hope Squallie is doing a bit better... Maybe you could check and see if there is any way prednisolone could come with gastric protection, slow release? That could help with impact on stomach, maybe use also a stomach protector?
    All the hugs from us, I hope you two get more time together! :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  40. Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey

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    {{{Lucy}}}

    I am so sad to read what you and Squallie are going through. We all know how much you love him, and you will make your decisions with his best interests in mind. He knows that, too.

    I have had several cats on Prednisolone, both long and short term. Other than causing Harvey's diabetes, I didn't see any negative side to it. Of course, every situation, like every cat, is different.

    I have always had a very good relationship with my vet, and whenever I was having trouble making a decision on treatment, I would ask, "if this were your cat, what would you do?" She never steered me wrong. I don't know if that would work for you, but thought I'd share.

    Sending you vines for strength and clarity, and sending Squallie vines for healing and no pain or fear.

    Many :bighug:s, too.
     
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  41. Becky & Baby Girl GA

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    Lucy, when I first came to this forum a year ago... I saw Squallies mom & loved the name. I looked at your info & his pic & thought he was a handsome dude! I told Baby; (oh yes I did) that I should have named her that because she’s so vocal. Anyway, just saying I’ve always valued your input, knowledge & your love of Mr. Stripey man! God bless you & Squallie, praying for you. Great big :bighug:
     
  42. Judy and Boomer

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    We gave our civvie Pred but it ended up making him extremely weak and we had to stop it.
    Sending lots of :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  43. Joanne&TinySole

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    Trust your gut.

    If the medicine cannot provide a better quality of life, that is something serious to consider.
    No one wishes to make a situation worse or add to the suffering of our beloved animals and it sounds as if the medicine could make things worse - I hear your questioning.
    There are so many unknowns to these difficult and heart-wrenching decisions we have to make.
    You can be assured that you've been the best Mommabean to Squallie, and you will have done all you could've done.
    That is what love is all about.

    I will hold you both in peaceful love and light and you weigh your options.
    Many blessings.
    Joanne + Tiny Sole
     
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    Thinking of you and sweet, sweet Squallie:bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  46. Bellasmom

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    Sending hugs and prayers to u guys:bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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