? 4/28/19 Olive AMBG 164 DO I SHOOT; +6.5=301; PMPS 360

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  1. Olive & Paula

    Olive & Paula Well-Known Member

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    Ollie is nauseous, vomited 4 small foam amounts. Not eating, sniffs but doesn't eat. Gave cerenia.

    Do I shoot? How much? Or skip? I can be off schedule by 2 hrs if need to.
     
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  2. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I would wait to see if the cerenia has any effect I think. Can you manage that?
     
  3. carfurby (GA)

    carfurby (GA) Well-Known Member

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    Can you stall and keep trying to get her to eat? Hopefully the cerenia will kick in soon and she'll be able to eat. I'd be nervous about giving insulin with her not eating.
     
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  4. Judy and Boomer

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    Personally, I don't shoot unless Boomer has eaten what I consider a reasonable amount. Since you've given cerenia, I would stall to see if she will eat
     
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  5. Olive & Paula

    Olive & Paula Well-Known Member

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    I can wait 2 hrs. She has never ever not eaten.
     
  6. Olive & Paula

    Olive & Paula Well-Known Member

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    Same here. Especially with her dose, She is always a chow hound, very food motivated.
     
  7. Bron and Sheba (GA)

    Bron and Sheba (GA) Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully you can get to the bottom of why she isn't eating. I agree with the others. I would not like to give the insulin if she can't eat.
     
  8. Olive & Paula

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    Never had this problem with her. I don't know if it's because of p'titis flaring or needs to poop.

    She is due for subq and B12 today also.
     
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  9. Ti-Mousse (GA) Pepe (GA)

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    How's Ollie doing ?
     
  10. Olive & Paula

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    Okay coming up on 2 hrs and still not eating anything. So skipping AM shot. Is drinking however, strangely. She is dipping her foot in it to make it move and then just drops her face in the bowl, sometimes she drinks it other times it looks like she fell asleep with face in bowl.
     
  11. Olive & Paula

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    It's going to be a long worrisome day with her today.
     
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  12. Olive & Paula

    Olive & Paula Well-Known Member

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    Removing 911 and changing to ?

    Any suggestions welcome.
     
  13. Sonia & Leo

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    Poor Olive, is it possible she's dehydrated?
     
  14. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I’m sorry Olive is no better Paula.
    Do you have any ondansetron? They can be given at the same time as cerenia and help with nausea.
    Do you think she needs to see the vet?
    Have you tested for ketones?
     
  15. Bellasmom

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    Sending appy vines, hope she feels better
     
  16. Olive & Paula

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    Will see vet tomorrow if not better. The ER isn't going to do anything more than what I've done and charge me a fortune. Of course if she worsens I will go immediately. I will give subq fluids in a little while. Blood ketones 0.2. Ondansetron 4 mg given. I upped her bupre to 0.27 ml what she was on last flare. I think I can go higher but need to look up her original amount.
     
  17. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    You are doing s really good job looking after her Paula. :bighug:
     
  18. Olive & Paula

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    On the up side, she isn't doing the typical meatloafing, but you can tell she is feeling yucky, she purrs when I pet her but doesn't give her usual chirp greeting when you approach her. She seems to be alert and bright eyed.
     
  19. Sienne and Gabby (GA)

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    When you have a chance, can you update Olive's SS?

    It does sound like this could be the beginning of a p'titis flare or constipation. I hope Olive feels better.
     
  20. Olive & Paula

    Olive & Paula Well-Known Member

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    Up to date except for comments which I'm booting pc now to do.
     
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  21. Ti-Mousse (GA) Pepe (GA)

    Ti-Mousse (GA) Pepe (GA) Well-Known Member

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    If she's dehydrated, sub-Qs should help! Is she peeing OK?
    Thinking of you and sending positive vibes to Ollie!
     
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  22. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Sending a plane load of vines to sweet Olive.
     
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  23. Olive & Paula

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    Skin snaps back. Gums not tacky. Will get subq and B12 shortly (regular schedule for them) but I did miss Thurs subqs.
     
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  24. Olive & Paula

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    Thanks Bron. How is everything with you?
     
  25. Olive & Paula

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    Subqs and B12 given. Had a nibble right after. It's a start.
     
  26. Bobbie And Bubba

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    Poor OLive! Please keep us posted. I hope that it's a big poop needed and then she is as good as new.
     
  27. Crista & Ming

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    Sorry about Olive. I hope she eats for you soon. Ming also does the water thing when he's feeling nauseous. Hope the ondansetron kicks in soon.
     
  28. Crista & Ming

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    Btw, have you tried the common tasty tips? Fortiflora? Bonito flakes? Baby food? Etc.
     
  29. Crista & Ming

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    Sorry for the spam, but you can also try bupe every 8 hours now if you think she's in discomfort.
     
  30. nslade001

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    I hope Olive feels better soon. Thinking of you with love, Nikki
     
  31. Olive & Paula

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    Tried her test treats which she loves, even clean protein dry kibble. Freeze dried raw sprinkle on top. Parm cheese, every flavor of food I have, hc gravy. Shoot even the maple syrup that she loves. Nothing so far. She is now coming into kitchen to look at the bowls so hopefully soon she will have more than a nibble.
     
  32. Osha

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    Sending lots of vines to Olive!! :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  33. JoyBee&Ravan

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    Sorry to hear Olive isn't feeling well !

    Day of HEALING.jpg
     
  34. Olive & Paula

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    I don't see spam. Thanks for reminding me, She is on low dose So that could come in handy.
     
  35. Olive & Paula

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    Osha and SK both look good. How are they getting along? How is Brother doing without her?
     
  36. Olive & Paula

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    She is nibbling but not enough of anything yet.

    Anyone know of a fiber powder or flakes to add? Already gave some pumpkin in addition to the lactulose. I think fiber would be better than miralax right now. She didn't go yesterday but it normal for to skip a day every so often.
     
  37. Doodles & Karen

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    I worry about her heart & the subQ. You’re doing everything you can and hope she eats soon. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  38. Jill & Scooter

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    Hope Olive feels better and eats soon! When Scooter seems nauseous and won’t eat, ham baby food works for him.
     
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  39. Tucker's Mama CS

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    I agree with Jill, ham baby food is almost always a hit for Tucker when he's not feeling so great. I hope Olive starts feeling better soon!
     
  40. Sharon14

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    I used to give Colin psyllium husk powder. It’s the same stuff that’s in Metamucil, but without all the additives. I got it at Walmart in the fiber supplement section. Hope Olive feels better!
     
  41. Olive & Paula

    Olive & Paula Well-Known Member

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    Hi, how are you? Leo is so adorable in the pics. How is Moo doing? Have missed you.

    She had her annual echo last month. Cardio said it was okay and put a limit on amount she can have in a week (vet wanted to give 300 ml at a time, if course I wouldn't allow that). I barely get 65 ml in her twice a week. Last week she had some of her noisey gurgley breathing so I skipped giving any for the week.
     
  42. Olive & Paula

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    I will get some tomorrow.
     
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  43. Judy and Boomer

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    I'm just getting caught up now. Any luck getting Olive to eat?
     
  44. LizzieInTexas

    LizzieInTexas Well-Known Member

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    Sending up prayers :bighug:

    Feel better Ms. Ollie :cat:
     
  45. Olive & Paula

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    She has nibbled tiny amounts throughout the day. She ate 1/2 her dinner so I gave her full dose. She has been nibbling since.
     
  46. Sonia & Leo

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  47. Rosie & Bailey

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    :bighug::bighug::bighug:
    Hope she eats enough for you.
     
  48. Ti-Mousse (GA) Pepe (GA)

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    Thinking of little Ollie :bighug::bighug::bighug: and Paula also :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     

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