9/29 Elmo AMPS 111,+1 114,+2 86,+3 109,+4 139, +8 HI

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  1. Beth 73

    Beth 73 Well-Known Member

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    Good morning all :bighug: As you can see by yesterday’s condo , Elmo was at it again last night. :banghead: Needing help with dose this AM ...be advised I am going on 1 hour of sleep but feel strangely well:rolleyes::confused::) Normal shot time is in 30 minutes from now ....thank you for all your help ... sending love and prayers to any who are in need ( including myself :bighug::bighug:)
     
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  2. Beth 73

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    .75 ??? Reduce ? If so, to what ? Stall ?
     
  3. Bellasmom

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    If you are doing TR and home to monitor it is safe to shoot the 106
     
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  4. Bellasmom

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    Leave at .75 as he has not earned a reduction
     
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  5. Beth 73

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    i appear to be doing Elmo’s own special version of TR... he doesn’t follow rules and regs well....kinda like his momma bean, I suppose .
     
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    Thanks for your input, Jamie :)
     
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    Your welcome Beth
     
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  10. Sue and Luci

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    Based on what I'm looking at, I'd hold the dose - special version of TR???

    He needs some insulin today.
     
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    Thanks for input, Sue
     
  12. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    If you can monitor, I'm with Jamie and say shoot the 0.75u. If you can't monitor how about a one time 0.5u? What are you more comfortable with?
     
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  13. Nan & Amber (GA)

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    I agree, if you can shoot, go for it. He is almost certainly going up now and will give you a quiet day with lots of nap opportunities (famous last words!).
     
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  14. Beth 73

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    Have stalled 20 minutes.... taking BG now
     
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    Stall got him to 111....
     
  16. Beth 73

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    Going to shoot .75 .....but fair warning to all..I have one hour of sleep under my belt and may be quite blunt today...if easily offended , please steer clear...you have been warned:woot: :woot: :woot:
     
  17. carfurby (GA)

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    If you are awake enough to test today, I'd shoot the 0.75 and see if he earns the reduction. Do like Bron suggseted and feed higher carb with the shot and then feed LC unless he earns a reducie. Good luck.
     
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  18. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Good luck with the cycle.
    Is Elmo eating ok?
     
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  19. LizzieInTexas

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    :bighug::bighug:

    He may bounce. Can hubby test? Do you have any high carb? 20%
     
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  20. Beth 73

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    Yes but I’m going to give MC now ..... is that what you were suggesting last night, Bron ???
     
  21. Beth 73

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    Yes I have a 20 and for some reason I am wired and ready :eek:
     
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  22. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    You could either give some MC now or at onset of insulin. Then if you can I’d try and stick with low carb unless he drops under 50.
     
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  23. Diane Tyler's Mom

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    Beth hoping Elmo has a quiet cycle today so you can get some sleep. I have been reading about Elmo and what you go through with that adorable kitty of yours.
    He sure does keep you on your toes. You are an amazing mama at keeping Elmo safe.
    I just love the look on his face in the pic of him, it's priceless. Always thing of you and Elmo @Beth 73
     
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  24. LizzieInTexas

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    Go! Everything will be ok.

    :coffee::coffee:
     
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  25. Beth 73

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    Gave 1 t MC 14 in addition to LC 3....ate all eagerly on his own.....next test at +1 ?
     
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  26. carfurby (GA)

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    I would get a +1 just to be safe. If the +1 is the same or lower, then you'll need to get a +2 at least.
     
  27. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Because you haven’t slept much at all, if it all becomes too much, you can always abort the cycle.
    Main thing is to keep Elmo safe and you being able to function on so little sleep.
     
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  28. Beth 73

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    Diane , your words warm my heart ❤️ He did this madcap response to insulin 3 years ago only on vetsulin with Linda @MrWorfMen's Mom one of his loving guardians . She is very familiar with his shenanigans ❤️
     
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  29. Beth 73

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    Thank you ,Carla ❤️ How are you feeling now ? Is your ear feeling better ? Sending love and prayers to you :bighug:
     
  30. LizzieInTexas

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    Great! Elmo, surf safe buddy :cat:
     
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  31. carfurby (GA)

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    I'm feeling a little better after I went back to sleep for 2 1/2 hours. I normally don't sleep that long when I lay back down. My body must have needed it. I'm going to put some tea tree oil in my ear. That seems to be helping. You have to dilute it with water before you can use it because it's so strong. Too bad it's dangerous for cats or we could use it for their ears. Thanks for asking.
     
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  32. Beth 73

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    Don’t know if y’all saw on Suzanne’s yesterday condo but Chris @Chris & China (GA) mom fell last night and was badly banged up ....check out LTs condo from last night....know everyone wants to keep Chris and her mom in thoughts,vines and prayers❤️
     
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    Tea tree oil is the best ! And yes,wish we could use it on kitties. Glad you are feeling better, Carla:bighug:
     
  34. Beth 73

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    Have it written down so I don’t forget, Bron❤️ A billion thanks ....now isn’t it past your bedtime ?
     
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  35. Beth 73

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    Never stalled before...how does it affect PMPS....stalled 30 minutes past shot time.....so he can have little MC until plus 3....he normally does a dive between +2 and +3....
     
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  36. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Just going off to sleep now. 11.20 pm here Sunday night.
    Will look in on you when I wake up.
    Elmo... please be a good boy for your Mama
     
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  37. Beth 73

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    :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  38. Beth 73

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    Busily squeezing the gravy out of his MC HC foods....not expecting ...just preparing :)
     
  39. carfurby (GA)

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    30 minutes probably won't make much difference. You can safely move shot time in one 30 min. increment per day or two 15 min. increments.
     
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  40. Diane Tyler's Mom

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    Yes I was just reading the same thing happened 3 yrs ago. Linda is my Tyler's guardian angel. I don't know what I would have done without her and everyone else here. Again I wish you and that cutie pie Elmo all the best @Beth 73
     
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  41. Olive & Paula

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    Elmo wants off the juice and he is going for it.
     
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  42. Beth 73

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    I receive and agree with you, Paula ❤️
     
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  43. Beth 73

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    +1......114.....Give some LC ? LC plus little MC ? Straight MC ?
     
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  44. Wendy&Neko

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    The link to yesterday, or rather last night’s :rolleyes: beautiful high green surf.

    Just wish this boy would let you try the experiment Bron suggested of carbing early to slow the steep drop, followed by just LC to see how low he is really going on this dose. And give you an idea what he would do without intervention and give you more sleep.http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...221-4-204-5-155-6-154-7-119-8-87-9-89.219799/
     
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  45. Beth 73

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    That’s the plan for today, Wendy ....would it be good to give him straight MC right now or a LC MC mix ?
     
  46. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    I'd give him some straight up medium carb. He got no food bump at all from your previous concoction.
     
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  47. Beth 73

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    1 t MC gravy ....next test at +2.....more MC gravy? .... between 2 and 3 is his usual big drop
     
  48. Beth 73

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    How much MC ? Just gave 1 t MC gravy ....more ..another teaspoon ?
     
  49. Beth 73

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    Gave another teaspoon MC gravy....total of 2 t MC gravy at +1
     
  50. carfurby (GA)

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    Sounds good. Let's see where he is at +2.
     
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  51. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    Test again at +2. I'd give Elmo a bit of the MC meat as well as the gravy if he will eat it. The gravy will hit the system quickly, while the meat will take a little longer to process.
     
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  52. Suzanne Burton

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    Elmo, your surfboard is waxed and ready to go. No need to show everyone your diving ability. Beth, I hope you can find the right food combo to stop these crazy swings of his.
     
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  53. Beth 73

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    Hugs and prayers to you and LT today, Suzanne :bighug:
     
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  54. Beth 73

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    Yes I will.....1 or 2 t at +2 ???? Going to go with 2t Mc meat and gravy at +2
     
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  55. Nan & Amber (GA)

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    Wait... did I miss his +2 test?
     
  56. Beth 73

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    +2 ....86....giving heaping teaspoon Mc meat and gravy ....anything else ??? Hit him again at mid cycle with more MC ???
     
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  57. Nan & Amber (GA)

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    I think just the snack at +2 for now, but test again at +3 (oh, Elmo!). With luck, he's just continuing his nice surf, but let's keep an eye on him!
     
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  58. Suzanne Burton

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    Obviously, Elmo thinks he is the only one to deserve a nap in your household. ;) His late nadir really is a challenge for you.
     
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  59. Beth 73

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    Oh, Nan, how well you know our boy :bighug:
     
  60. Beth 73

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    Nadir ? Nadir? What is this nadir you speak of , Suzanne :woot: :eek::eek: How is LT this AM ??? Haven’t had time to visit your condo ❤️
     
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  61. Suzanne Burton

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    LT is fine. Lowered his dose to 1 drop and then he of course, in LT fashion, got into contraband. Hubbie left kibble bowl on woodstove while waiting for civvie Fred to arrive outside for his brekkie. Just a couple of mouthfuls, but that's all it takes for my carb sensitive boy to soar.
     
  62. Beth 73

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    :woot: :eek: :woot: :eek:.......
     
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  63. Beth 73

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    Suzanne, any word on Chris @Chris & China (GA) mom ????
     
  64. Suzanne Burton

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    No, I haven't heard anymore.
     
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  65. Beth 73

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    +3.....109..... now no more MC ....how often give LC ? At each test ???? He is not coming to eat so should I feed him to keep food on board ????? Thots ???? Next test at +4 .... inquiring minds , you know :)
     
  66. Beth 73

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    Give some LC now or let ride ????
     
  67. Nan & Amber (GA)

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    I think I'd hold off on feeding him right now if he's reluctant to eat. I think he's just going to surf today (and maybe bounce up when he's good and ready!), but just in case he starts going low and you need him to eat, better if he's a little hungry.
     
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  68. carfurby (GA)

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    I agree with Nan. Hopefully he'll surf today and eat if you need him to.
     
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  69. Beth 73

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    Sounds great, as usual, from you, Angel Nan :bighug: ❤️ Maybe I’ll be able to stay awake to watch our KC Chiefs today ...prob oughta record it in case :eek:......nah, I’ll be wide awake until I see Gpa Man thru this day and rising all on his own❤️
     
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    Thanks, Carla ❤️ Another Team Elmo mom heard from ❤️
     
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    Should be interesting ....the +2-+3 is usually his deep dive that sets off chasing the numbers with carbs....but y’all know that as well or better than me ❤️
     
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  72. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    Surfing is fun Elmo. :D

    Fingers crossed he stays on his surfboard today!
     
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  73. LizzieInTexas

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    Gravy (with or without honey) only if you can. Don't want to fill him up because you may need him hungry down the road :bighug: (unless, of course he is definitely on the rise).
     
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    +4. 139....no food since +2....giving thyroids .... next check at +5....gave livershake with meds
     
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  75. Red & Rover (GA)

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    Oh my gosh! I need a nap just reading last night's and today's threads. I can't even imagine how you must be feeling, Beth. Do look after yourself as well. Well done, everyone.
     
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  76. Beth 73

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    Thanks, Kel :bighug: Bron is with me step for step on the night shift . This is the most amazing group of people anywhere. I tell others ab what y'all do, how you give of yourselves selflessly ...they are amazed :bighug: So Glad Elmo and I are here ❤️
     
  77. Nan & Amber (GA)

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    Hmmm... I think you might be able to take a break (and perchance a nap?) at this point. He seems to be thinking about coming up now!
     
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    Changed his mind on the snack but did get his AM livershake with thyroid meds ...seems pretty pooped out right now ...like his momma ;) if still going up at +5 I will be napping :)
     
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  79. Beth 73

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    +5 ....239....boo on number ....yeah for nap !,,,,suggestions on next test after I wake up ???
     
  80. Nan & Amber (GA)

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    And we have liftoff!!!

    I think Elmo is giving you a green light for sleep. Just make sure you wake up before PMPS!
     
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  81. carfurby (GA)

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    Looks like a bounce is starting. If you can, you may want to at least get a +10 test so you can compare that to PMPS. I think you can safely take a nap now.
     
  82. Wendy&Neko

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    I am glad you shot this morning. Looks like a much earlier nadir, maybe more his normal one. When cats start high and are breaking a bounce, their nadirs tend to be later. That was what you saw last night.

    Nap well.
     
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  83. Suzanne Burton

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    Look at Elmo surf! Great job Beth:bighug::woot:.
     
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    Sweet dreams
     
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  85. Beth 73

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    +8. HI....woke up to this :(...... can anyone say BOING !!!!! Had an awesome nap tho :)
     
  86. J.J. and Phoebe Squeak

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    So sorry!
     
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    Better than waking up to LO.
    Glad you had an awesome nap.
     
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    That is hilarious , Kel :joyful: And yes , better than LO
     
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    I'll get a + 10, Carla ....:)
     
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    QUESTION : does stalling 30 minutes this AM affect PM shot time tonight????? Or is there a 30 minute leeway that lets you stall but get right back on track next shot ???
     
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  92. LizzieInTexas

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    You can shoot at your normal time. You don't need to wait an additional 30 min.
     
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    Thanks Lizzie ❤️ Knew I'd read that but wanted to double check . Thank you for sending this !! Scritches to sweet Frankie ❤️
     
  95. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I see Elmo is back on the trampoline!
     
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  96. Wendy&Neko

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    With him that high, no problem shooting back on schedule. Elmo, really?:rolleyes:
     
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  97. carfurby (GA)

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    Oh Elmo! He does like to keep you guessing.
     
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  98. Beth 73

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    :( That boy be lovin' his tramp ❤️
     
  99. Beth 73

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    Carla, it doesn't even phase me anymore :rolleyes: Just taking it day by day, moment by moment . Hoping and praying this means I have a full nights sleep ahead of me snd that Bron is not on call. ❤️
     
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    Seriously, Wendy ;) Just can't let my day be held hostage by what I hope Elmo will do . And you are exactly correct, no prob with shooting :bighug:
     

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