? 06/16 - Small Kitty amps 479 - pmps 481 +4 292 - Low carb hihg ph food

[Photorecon]

Good morning all,

First I would like to say thank you to all who help find new food solution to Fancy Feast.
Small Kitty start to be more and more hungry, he's ALWAYS asking for food and gaining
weight. This is not surprising as he's eating as fast as possible and eat his brother's portion, still.

Not that much more to say this morning apart from saying that I start to be bored of assisting this show of high numbers.

Next week-end will probably be for a new dose increase, will see.

Good day all.



http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...amps-437-pmps-463-purina-one-solution.159515/

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

Good Morning Sebastien ~ Looks like you got lots of good food advise yesterday. I started giving Bubba Friskies Turkey and giblets the other day , it is 8 % and I see no difference in his numbers from the 4% FF but then ECID. The Friskies on sale here is .49 cents a can for a 5.5 oz can.

Also, I would like for others to look at your SS and see if the snack times should be readjusted due to the fact that SK seems to nadir at +6 and maybe that snack time should be adjusted.


ETA: Are you checking for ketones?

 

[Photorecon]

This is what would have been my next request, food time analysis. Someone said yesterday to feed at +9 ????
It would add some distance between meals but it would also kill the little insulin left on the road, maybe ???

I'll start seeking for Canadian food from Provigo Choix du President. Sounds many are 2%.
Thanks for the Canadian Food chart sent by a valorous member yesterday.

Time is coming for Ketone but seems all I'm doing is test. I feel like being a flack operator soldier watching
Bombers flying over his city with flack guns shooting paint balls.

 

[Elle & Squeak (GA)]

I'll start seeking for Canadian food from Provigo Choix du President. Sounds many are 2%.

You could check Shoppers Drug Mart (Pharmaprix?) as well - since the Loblaws company bought them, all the Shoppers around here have started carrying lots of President's Choice products, including the pet food. It'll likely be more expensive than the grocery store, but might give you a chance to give it a try if you're having trouble finding it. You can always look for a better price if you find it's working out.

 

[Doodles & Karen]

Feeding at +9 is more recommended for kitties on a very small dose that are trying to get their AM preshot numbers down a little more. How many oz's are you feeding SK? Some people give baked chicken as snacks which is pure protein and might help.

During the PM cycle on 6/14 there was a big drop from PMPS to +3 and wonder if SK went lower after that. Even that large of a drop will trigger a bounce which is what I think SK is doing now. If you see that kind of movement it is a good idea to test again a few hours later.

 

[Photorecon]

Feeding at +9 is more recommended for kitties on a very small dose that are trying to get their AM preshot numbers down a little more. How many oz's are you feeding SK? Some people give baked chicken as snacks which is pure protein and might help.

During the PM cycle on 6/14 there was a big drop from PMPS to +3 and wonder if SK went lower after that. Even that large of a drop will trigger a bounce which is what I think SK is doing now. If you see that kind of movement it is a good idea to test again a few hours later.

Thanks to both of you for your help. I know the food quantity is too much for my cats. Small Kitty weights 11 pounds and big Brother 15.
The ''big'' meals are 1 small can of FF (3Oz) ''each'' amps and pmps + 1 3oz can split in 1/4 at +3 and +6 for ''each'' in th auto feeder. I says ''each'' because
Small Kitty jumps and fight to eat anything around, on the counter, table, foods bowls... I'm ending up with 2 cats asking for food. A diabetic
one over fed with unbalanced brain and another one under fed because of his ''compassion'' to his brother.

At the end, Small Kitty might, behind the scene ingesting more then 2.5 FF cans a day, and still asking for more.

*Big brother seems to be more licking then eating, this makes him slower to finish his portion. Wondering what's going on.
Small Kitty jumps in his food and byte solid. Main meals are water added but the feeder is in a quarter peace unmelted.

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

Time is coming for Ketone but seems all I'm doing is test. I feel like being a flack operator soldier watching
Bombers flying over his city with flack guns shooting paint balls.

Keep holding down the line, Sebastien. A curve this weekend would help to know what is happening at those time you can't test. Then we can see what the next dosing strategy would be.

 

[Photorecon]

Decent cat food :
I found a cat food that seems to be available near my place, the only issue is that it's high in phosphor and Fat :

Is this something I should stay away from, because of heavy Fat and phosphorus ?

 

[Photorecon]

I tough I had found the perfect food but after reading about phosphor I'm not convinced
anymore. Information I found in post is that above 100 it's deadly. Is that right ?

That's sad they did that, this food would have been perfect. Their meat is not of any quality
at all.

Could someone confirm it's a no go ?

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

I don't know. Hopefully someone can weigh in. So far, I have not had to be concerned with phos maybe I should be. I don't understand when it is important. I hope someone will weigh in.

 

[Tuxedo Mom]

My thoughts are that as of the end of April when the bloodwork was done there is no indication of kidney problems. The BUN/CREAT is in a normal range and the phosphorous levels are in the low normal range. The SDMA is in a normal range as well. I would think that dealing with the high glucose numbers at this point would be more important than trying to find a low phosphorous food. My opinion only

 

[Red & Rover (GA)]

I'm not good at reading blood panels other than comparing Rover's most recent panels to past panels, but I don't see any stand out kidney numbers on SK's most recent panel. What exactly did the vet say? and was it during the UTI?

 

[Photorecon]

My thoughts are that as of the end of April when the bloodwork was done there is no indication of kidney problems. The BUN/CREAT is in a normal range and the phosphorous levels are in the low normal range. The SDMA is in a normal range as well. I would think that dealing with the high glucose numbers at this point would be more important than trying to find a low phosphorous food. My opinion only

That is... SO NICE to have your opinion, that's amazing that you had the tough of verifying this
in the blood test. This is very smart you had this flash. To me phosphorus was kind a green spot on
water witch would catch fire if you threw a match on it. Maybe it is, don't know.

I'll now have to weight the fat level, sounds there is more fat than anything else.. Will have to keep and
eye on this.

While looking at a food chart : http://www.catinfo.org/docs/FoodChartPhosphorus9-22-12.pdf
I found that FF is not scoring better on both fat and phos. This is where cies are making their money saving.

 

[Photorecon]

I'm not good at reading blood panels other than comparing Rover's most recent panels to past panels, but I don't see any stand out kidney numbers on SK's most recent panel. What exactly did the vet say? and was it during the UTI?

This vet I will never visit again throw quite a sh load on me. When I arrived at his clinic back in
march he was about to plug Small Kitty for a month and have him monitored 24/7. Hard to say
where this information is coming from. Might be a misinterpretation of my part.

 

[Tuxedo Mom]

That is... SO NICE to have your opinion, that's amazing that you had the tough of verifying this
in the blood test. This is very smart you had this flash. To me phosphorus was kind a green spot on
water witch would catch fire if you threw a match on it. Maybe it is, don't know.

I'll now have to weight the fat level, sounds there is more fat than anything else.. Will have to keep and
eye on this.

While looking at a food chart : http://www.catinfo.org/docs/FoodChartPhosphorus9-22-12.pdf
I found that FF is not scoring better on both fat and phos. This is where cies are making their money saving.

Unless a kitty has some problems with pancreatitis, I personally would not worry about the fat content....unless you are trying to get SK or BB to lose weight. The biggest concern I see would be the carb content...and the higher the protein and fat... the lower the carbs...as long as there is no plant proteins in the food...(potatoes, beans, rice...etc)