12/16 Shasta AMPS=191 PMPS=269 +6.5=176

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Deborah & Shasta

Deborah & Shasta

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12/15 Shasta

WCR: Most/some Ps in place. Little girl isn't feeling well today. She got sick last night (looked like a hairball, mostly); overnight (food, not hairball); and this morning (liquified food & meds). I got her meds down her for a second time and so far, she's kept them down. I caught her tried to eat the little strands of sisal rope from her scratching post (her version of "dog eating grass"). I threatened to take her to work today where she would have to sit through my students doing vocal range checks for their exams. She's sitting on my lap, looking very sweet and nibbling on some fuds.

This brings me to wondering the power of Cerenia?! I just started trying to use it every other day and within a day/day and a half of NOT having the Cerenia...she vomits. Some of them have been hairballs, some of them food. When she was getting Cerenia every day, was she unable to "cough" up the hairballs? If so, is that why she doesn't feel good most of the time...with that junk just sitting in her tummy? (or wherever it sits). Should I go back to Cerenia every day or allow her to vomit when necessary?! Why does this have to be so difficult?!

Ok, I'm late thanks to cleaning up all the vomit piles. Wishing everyone a great Wednesday. Sending healthy vines to all our sugar kitties and their hoomins! Blessings!

~Deborah & Shasta


AMPS=191 (a little bit of everything) vomit (meds) :arghh:
+1=256
+2=277 (3% FF T&G 1oz, 13% FF Grilled Chicken in Gravy)

PMPS=269 (5% FF 1oz)
+2=223
+4.5=211
+6.5=176 (3% FF T&G 1oz)

Poo Pee tally
Pee piles - 4
Poo piles - 2 (am; pm - loosey goosey)
Vomit - 2 (both am)
 
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Cerenia was a big help for Zener and it is now for Tillie. Anne can explain the benefits better than I can. I think it's ok to give it every day. We are currently giving it to Tillie 3X per week. Many vines for Shasta.
Liz
 
Here is a link about cerenia having anti-inflammatory properties and being used for IBD, from 2012
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?A=2798

This is a link to a blog by a small animal vet in Kansas. She has been using cerenia for things other than anti-nausea and considers it a drug "she couldn't live without". It was published in 2011. The blog references a discussion on a veterinary site that we couldn't access to read the entire discussion, but our vet could.
A summary:
  • Cerenia (maropitant) is a tachykinin antagonist which acts by inhibiting the binding of substance P.
  • Cerenia is labeled only for treatment of nausea and vomiting, but can potentially be used extra-label for pain, inflammation, GI disturbances, allergies and immune diseases, bladder inflammation, CNS and spinal cord injury, and mast cell diseases.
  • Treatment schedules should be 5 days on, 2 days off or every other day as continuous dosing depletes substance P which leads to tremors.
And another, more recent publication from the City Cat mobile vet service on using Cerenia as a long-term treatment for IBD.
https://sites.google.com/site/felinehealthcare/home/inflammatory
Cerenia is a medication that is used as an anti-inflammatory which works by blocking a neurotransmitter in the inflammatory cascade. Cerenia is labeled for dogs but commonly used in cats for nausea, vomiting, intestinal inflammation, bladder inflammation, allergic conditions, and arthritis. We have not seen any side effects, but according to literature it can cause twitching if overdosed. The typical dosage for this medication is 4 mg once a day for 5 days and then every other day or twice weekly. It can be used with various other medications such as prednisolone to control inflammation. Due to the fact that the medication is bitter, we put it in gel caps so the cat does not taste the Cerenia.

For our Tillie, we use Cerenia 3x/week in the pill format. We buy them through Thriving Pets, 16mg tablets and cut into quarters. We put them in a tiny bit of pill pocket because they are not very tasty. The recommendations to not use any food (or pill pockets) for giving Cerenia is in the case of nausea. And, if a cat is vomiting, then the injection form is better until the vomiting is under control.

Those are all the resources I have. Hope they are helpful.
 
I have to admit, I haven't thought about cerenia allowing gunk to sit in the belly before...it is an interesting theory, though. Trix has never been a hairballer, so I don't know the answer, but I do give it to her every 36 hours to stay ahead of potential nausea from her CKD. Any time I tried to wean her off it, she started backsliding into not feeling well, whereas when I've been consistent with both her cerenia and Pepcid, she has felt pretty darned good for a kitty who has kidneys that are barely functioning. We've been doing this for close to 2 years now. But, as with anything else....ECID.

I hope Shasta is feeling better!
 
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