Chuck's bouncy journey, part 15.

http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/chucks-bouncy-journey-part-14.173989/

AMPS: 497
Fed 4.5 oz pate + 2T water. .8oz pate + 1T water @+3. 1T YA @+5.5.
Gave 6.4 units.

 

+1 501

 

Well, at least it's not a giant food spike. But come back down, Chuck! We like blues and dark green so much better

 

+2 470
+3 418
Edited the times... Brain set on "ID10T" mode tonight!

 

Heh, I'm a good one for transposing numbers even when I'm wide awake Nice to see his numbers going down though!

 

+4 408 probably not going to be an active cycle... AGAIN. Poor Chuck.

 

It looked so promising at +3 too

Data gathering!

 

Yeah, maybe he'll surprise us?! I should go tell him I need some sleep and have plans all week... Lol then he'll be sure to throw out some lower numbers!

 

+5 365

 

I'm sure Hermione's super low this morning was because we have a vet appointment at 11am! I work 2nd shift so AMPS is before I go to bed. Needless to say I'm not getting much sleep now

That +5 is looking better, though - keep it going Chuck!

 

PMPS 296!
6.4 again? Or 6.2?

 

I will be home so I gave him 6.4 units.
PMPS 296
Fed 4.5oz +2T water. .8oz +1T water@+2.5. 1T YA @+5.5.
Gave 6.4 units.

 

Fed and gave shot 20 minutes after reading... Maybe that's why the spike is so high?
+1 "HI" GRRR

 

+3.5 372
+6.5 384
Ugh. Thought about a micro dose but I think I'll just increase the morning dose.
Do you think 6.8 is to big of a jump? I think it will be fine but DH thinks we should try 6.6 first. It seems like it's all getting used up in the food spike. I'm getting beyond frustrated.
I go from hypo anxiety to hyper anxiety. I try to ignore it but it keep nagging my brain.

 

An increase of 0.4 u on a dose of 6.4 u is only a 6.3% increase so why not?

 

Would you go higher or see what 6.8 brings about?

 

Personally I'd try 6.8u. You don't want to skip over the ideal dose by trying too big an increase. But that's one thing about such a large dose, you have the ability to make small percentage changes and really narrow down your dosing.

 

+10 381
AMPS (+12): 474
Fed 4.5oz +2T water. .8oz pate +1T water @+3. 1T YA @+5.5.
Gave 6.8 units.
Will monitor. Hopefully we see yellows. If not I might be sent to the "funny farm"!!

 

+1 516

 

+2.5 363
+3 274

 

That's looking nice! Way to go, Chuck!

 

+4 283

 

+5 238

 

His snack seems to stop him in his tracks! I'm happy to see some yellow. Hopefully he doesn't bounce from them!

 

+6.75 303

 

Nice yellows today! I really think you need to consider the switch when this bottle is done since, like Julie said, the Prozinc doesn't seem to be lasting long enough. The switch may help push him out of any insulin resistance he has. Lantus is a bit cheaper than Lev, and while it can sting, it doesn't sting all cats, so maybe you can start there. You mentioned a friend that had a script you could get some from, or if you look around some pharmacies will sell a single pen for you to try. Then if it doesn't seem to sting you could buy from Canada. Maybe that's all he needs, but if not then you could get the tests done.

ETA Another reason to maybe try Lantus first is the patent is about to run out and there will be cheaper generics available soon

 

PMPS 363

Keep the same dose of 6.8?

 

I think so. Lets give it another cycle to see if it repeats.

I also agree that you might really want to look into changing insulin. It looks like the switch to Lantus is working great for Teasel, and Chuck does seem to be less responsive to ProZinc as the cycle goes on.

 

Yes, there's quite a bit of improvement for Teasel - by Teasel standards!

 

My aunt is a doctor and is going to try to get me a lantus pen sample. I am going to schedule an appt for chuck for 2 weeks. Should start to get low on ProZinc by then...
PMPS 363
Fed 4.5 oz +2T water. .8oz pate +1T water at +3.5. 1T YA at +6.5.
Gave 6.8 units
+1 "HI" *sigh*

 

+3.5 481
Appt for bloodwork, dental exam, and insulin discussion set for March 21st at 3pm.

 

Keep us posted!

 

+6 311

 

I thought about trying the vial I thought was damaged on Chuck but he's not getting very consistent numbers on a certain dose so I don't know if it's possible to compare. I hate to throw it away if it's usable.

 

If you factor in the margin of error...and squint a little...you could call that a yellow

 

I like your thinking!

 

Hahaha yessss!

 

+9 303
AMPS: 366
Fed 4.5oz + 2T water. .8oz pate + 1T water@+3. 1T YA @+6.5.
Gave 6.8 units.
DH will monitor.

 

+1 433

 

+2 394

 

PMPS 248!!!
No idea on what dose! I have to leave after his shot and might not be back til +4 or +5.

 

Well after a 20 minute stall he's 336. I gave him 6.8 units. I'll update later. Hit blues this morning, for a couple hours!

 

+4 224
+6 163
+7 130
+12 248
PMPS (+12.3): 336
Fed the normal amount and snacks are the same.
+0.5 503
+4 241

 

I was looking at chucks teeth last night. Against his will of course. But I noticed he only has 1 tooth left in the bottom front. Those little cute teeth... I tried to see if he has a "gap" between his canines (are they called canines in cats? Haha) looks like there's a gap but I don't know what is normal or abnormal. I'm going to try to get a picture. His gums are darker pink/red around his teeth so he might need a dental cleaning soon. $$$$ spending quicker than I can earn!
I live about 40-45 minutes away from Cornell university animal hospital so I might call to see if they have any "teaching" reduced price offers. I'm not sure if they still do that but can't hurt to ask.

 

+6 234

 

Here are some pics. He wasn't hurt while taking pics. They look a bit rough but I promise it wasn't. He didn't even get up from his favorite chair.
The "gap" isn't there with Kitty's teeth... He's the last pic. Their teeth aren't really that yellow looking in person. But you can see the red on the gum line. Starting to wonder if the vets just put that on the back burner while trying to address his FD? I rarely look on their mouth because it's just not their favorite activity. Haha starting to feel guilty that they might need dental attention or have needed it for a while?!

 

I'm awful. I looked at the pics again and can't stop giggling. They are like wth?! Silly boys. I just love those little teefers in the front!

 

LOL I couldn't help myself, Maury is curled up on my arms (typing is fun but I love when he snuggles) and I peeked at his teeth. He does not have the gap like Chuck. His are also bigger like Kitty's. Recently noticed he is missing one of the little teeth up top and he needs braces on the bottoms hehhe . He just curled back up after I looked, didn't care at all

 

I know they can have resorption of teeth as one of their dental issues - maybe that's what's going on with the front teeth? The redness looks like gingivitis to me but I'm no expert.

 

I don't know much about teeth...but in humans the redness would be gingivitis I think so I don't know why this would be different....

 

I don't know too much about it either, but it looks to me like he could use a dental. I'd get that done first, and if his numbers are still high, then look into an insulin switch.

 

I'm better with dog and horse teeth, but I'd certainly get Chuck's looked at before you change insulin. Hermione's litter brother Hairy's gums looked like that at his check-up Tuesday and my vet recommended a cleaning. She ended up having to pull 2 of his back teeth because the roots were weak and they might break.

Tooth issues might be part of why Chuck's hanging out in high numbers....?

 

I hope it's something at simple as that!! We are planning vacation to Cape Cod, MA in May so I'm hoping to have him at least steady by then...

 

+9 381
AMPS (+13) : 482
Fed 4.5oz pate +2T water. .8oz +1T water @+3. 1T YA @+6.
Gave 6.8u "eyeballed" by DH. *eyeroll*
*Started pancreas booster 1/2 capsule twice a day*
+2 523
+3 416
+4.5 389
+5.5 341

 

PMPS: 297
Fed 4.5oz +2T water. .8oz pate at +2.25.
Gave 6.8 units- eyeballed by DH.
+2.25 489
+4.25 369
+6 416

 

+8.6 216 retest was 266

 

+11 221 not feeding til +13 because we have plans tomorrow.

 

+12 220
Dose suggestions?

 

I planned on waiting til 12.5 to retest, feed, and shoot but he got into kitty's pate so I had to go off the +12. ugh. Can delay pm dose.
AMPS: 220 threaten him with a vet visit and big needle poke and lookie lookie.
Fed 4.5oz + 2T water. .8oz pate + 1T water @+2.5. 1T YA @+6.5
Gave 6.6 units. After the blues on 3/9 in the AM cycle I was too nervous to shoot 6.8 I am a bit nervous about the 6.6... I might regret it but I have been up since 5:45am (3/10) so going past 20 hours now. I'm beyond exhausted.
I REALLY hope to see this trend continue and wonder if it's a fluke or if the Pancreas booster is working already?!
DH is monitoring and will wake me up if he starts to dive too soon or too fast.

 

+1 312 told DH to give him a spoonful of his normal pate. Trying to keep him from diving then bouncing.
He didn't nadir til +8! I'm extra anxious about this cycle now.

 

Stop it, Chuck! Just stop it!

 

I hope you were able to get some sleep, despite the tricky numbers!

 

I coached DH through the dive on messenger from bed! Hah. He gave him a few spoons of his pate and then some HC gravy to get the dive under control. He surfed in blues for a bit. His +10 was pink but better than black! We are not feeding til +13ish so who knows where he'll be. I'll update the SS and here with numbers after I feed Chuck.

 

AMPS 220
Fed usual.
+0.5 310
+1 312 spoon of pate
+1.5 352 spoon of pate (ate half)
+2.25 243 spoon of HC gravy on the rest of pate
+2.75 293
+3.25 230
+4 208
+4.25 188 .8 scheduled snack with a few drops of HC gravy to entice him to eat.
+4.5 168 still getting him to eat .8 snack
+4.75 186
+5.5 170
+5.75 171
+6 152
+6.75 165
+7 164 DH did great!
+9.5 326
PMPS (+12.75): 459
Fed 4.5oz pate +2T water.
Ate very slow probably feeling blah from this mornings extra food/gravy. Possibly doesn't like the zobaline and Pancreas booster mixed in?
.8oz +1 T water @+3. 1T YA @ +6.5, 1tsp YA @ +8.
+0.5 "HI" checked because he didn't eat all of his food right away but I already gave him his shot.

 

Wow! Look at all those blue numbers! And congrats to your DH for managing it so you could get some rest!

 

Nice to see those blues! Great job steering the drop - hopefully Chuck will start hanging out in better numbers now

 

No such luck tonight!
+1.75 "HI"
+3 518 just finished his dinner.
Moved snacks to +4 +6 and +8.
NEGATIVE KETONES!

 

AMPS (+12): 409
Fed 4.5oz +2 T water. Eating slow still. .8oz pate + 1T water at +4. 1T YA at +7.
Gave 6.8 units. Hope for a quiet cycle.

 

+1 587

 

+4 342
+6 294
PMPS (+11): 326
Fed 4.5 oz +2T water. .8oz pate+1T water@+4. 1T YA at+6.
Gave 6.8 units.
+1.6 435
+2.75 372

 

+6.5 259
+9.5 268 finished his .8oz pate snack- about 1/4 was left.

 

AMPS: 312
Fed 4.5oz +2T water. .8oz pate +1T water@+4. 1T YA@+7.
Gave 6.8 units.

 

+1 448 hope to see a similar trend to the one on 3/9 AM cycle.

 

+2.25 404

 

+4.5 294
+6 262
+7.5 232
PMPS (+13): 344
Fed 4.5oz pate + 2T water. .8oz pate + 1T water @+3. 1T YA @+7.
Gave 6.9 units. Was going to up the dose to 7 but didn't want to push it on a pink.
+1 551

 

Not looking forward to this storm!! My area is looking at 15-18 inches of snow. Hasn't snowed that much since March 14th 1993!!! DH's birthday! I stocked the pantry and have ice packs on the freezer in case the power goes out. Could always pack some snow into a baggie to help keep insulin/fridge cool!
When I was a kid I thought "old people" were lying when they said oh a storm's a'comin! I can feel it in my *insert bone/joint/body part*... Now that I suffer from chronic pain, failed back syndrome, arthritis, stenosis... To much to list... I know they weren't trying to fool me... Pain levels spike every time. Lucky for me DH is on vacation from work all week...

 

+2 502

 

Steph - Sorry to hear about the storm-induced aches and pains. The forecast for you east coasters is so serious that it's even been on the news over here on the west coast. Stay safe and keep us updated!

 

Sorry abt the pains! Hope you weather the storm ok.

 

Sorry about the weather-related pain, hopefully you don't get blasted too hard with the snow! We only got a little here in Ohio, but the news has been all about the east coast.

We'll be thinking of all of you in the path of the snow!

 

Well they said it was going to start at 8pm. Then midnight. It's 105am and not one flake of snow yet. I wouldn't be the least bit disappointed if it blew out to the east a bit and missed us!

 

Here in north central Ohio the forecast this morning said 3-6 inches starting at 1pm, at noon it was down to 2-4 inches starting after dinner. It didn't start until almost 8pm, and at the 11pm news they were talking 1/2 to 1 1/2 inches. We've got just a dusting on the grass now, nothing on the pavement.

Hopefully that will happen on the east coast too!

 

Started snowing around 2:15 am here. It's an hour later and the roads are covered with a little more than a dusting. Starting to come down pretty steady and faster.
+4 394
+6 357
+10.5 309
AMPS (+11.5): 293
Fed 4.5oz + 2T water. .8oz pate + 1T water @+4. 1T YA @+7.
Gave 6.7 units.
DH will monitor.

 

I live right on the border of PA/NY. In NY. Half a mile away from the border.

 

My mom lives in PA and my aunt and cousins in NJ, Steph. Close by you! Hope the storm blows over fast and that your pain levels get better soon.

 

Just got done running the snow blower. My official measurement is 16 inches in my yard.
+1 412
+2 239
+5 169
+7 213
PMPS: 451
Fed 4.5oz +2T water. .8oz +1T water at +4. 1 spoonful YA @ +7.
Gave 7 units.
+2.5 431
Forgot to update you all... Chuck weighs 11 pounds now!!! I can still feel his backbone but not as easy and the same for his ribs. I can't feel every single one.

 

How much did he weigh before? 16 inches is a pretty good snow! I can't even imagine.

 

This was 3.5 hours ago. April (87 pounds) trying to find a spot to go potty even though Mommy shoveled her an area... She hops like Tigger through the snow. Such a funny girl. Chuck has been watching it pile up and he is unimpressed.

 

He was 13.5 before DX. He got down to 9 pounds and that's when I told the Dr we weren't waiting any longer to start insulin. So he's gained 2 pounds in 6 months and 1 week. It's been a struggle.

 

It's not done snowing yet... And we are suppose to get more Friday! I need to move South!

 

Oh my gosh!!! It's still snowing so hard! I bet your puppy is loving all that new soft powder to bounce around in! We all need to move south. I'm starting to feel like the rain is NEVER going to stop up here. Congrats on the weight gain! That was a big loss to come back from.

 

So much snow! Hopefully it stops for you soon, it almost spring after all

And congrats on Chuck's weight gain! It's such a struggle to get our skinny extra-sweet kitties to put weight on.

 

We are expecting 3-8 inches more overnight! UGH.
So I think Chuck is bouncing this evening.
+4.25 366
+7.25 360
*sigh* I'm not sure what dose I should try in the morning. I know he'll probably be in the reds. I'm thinking 6.9 or 7 again.
He hit blues this morning but there's no way he's going to be yellow in the morning.

 

AMPS (+11): 424
Fed 4.5oz +2T water. .8oz pate +1T water @+3. 1T YA @+7.
Gave 7 units.
DH will monitor.

 

+1 496
+2 428
+4 408
+6 392
PMPS (+13): 361
Fed 4.5oz +2T water. .8oz pate +1T water @+4. 1T YA @+7.
Gave 7 units.
+2 420
+4 256

 

Nice yellow!

 

+6 262
+10 334
AMPS: 405
Fed 4.5oz +2T water. .8oz pate +1T water @+3. 1T YA @+7.
Gave 7 units.
DH will monitor.

 

+1.5 537
+2.5 457
+5.2 411
PMPS: 344
Fed 4.5oz +2T water. .8oz pate +1T water @+3. 1T YA @+7.
Gave 7 units.
Will monitor.