? 4/16/19 Alice is missing the box when she pees

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  1. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

    AliceMeowliss&Cassandra Well-Known Member

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    Ever since DKA this has been happening. At first I thought it was due to additional wasting. When she pees now though, as she has gained a slight bit of strength, I see her crouch her little but down and then start to rise until she is standing peeing straight back by the last few seconds.

    She had crystals/UTI years ago. But that had been resolved. She is on Veraflox since the DKA and high WBC.

    Weakness, bladder discomfort, difficulty emptying, or infection?

    I am completely out of vet funds/carecredit maxed but if she's sick I will work something out. She's supposed to have two more days on the antibiotic.

    Would appreciate thoughts, knowledge, anecdotes, etc.

    Oh and ketone check this morning was negative or trace.

    Thanks. :)
     
  2. Dusty Bones

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    If the kitty litter level is too high Dusty will pee over the side. I have to keep the litter lever on the lower side and got him a high wall sided litter box. Just a few ideas...
     
  3. Chris & China (GA)

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  4. Idjit's mom

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    Cassandra, she might still just be weak. She's been through so much and holding the "position" for too long may still be a bit hard for her. Maybe find some old towels that you won't use for anything else right away, placed around the box. Old sheets, pillow cases? Then you can wash them up every day, and reuse until she has the strength and stamina to stay crouched.
    Re: the high side box, they work for some, I got one for Idjit and he has never used it. He uses the smallest lowest box we have, even though we thought that the extra giant sized one would please him more..being such a big cat. So, 3 boxes, one in use. Cats, sigh.
     
  5. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    $$ being an issue, plus she's a little weak climbing in sometimes, mostly it's the why I'm worried about. I have an old high back box I used with one of my bunnies I need to scrub out though s d can switch. I have spare totes lids set up under and around.
    Sorry typing trouble again. :b
     
  6. Squeaky and KT (GA)

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    If she's IN the box and peeing over the side, there's litter boxes made for that - I have several, work wonderfully.

    Like Lou said above, she may also still be weak and not confident in her back legs in the shifting litter. Dakota's been doing that for months. I put down puppy pee pads in front of it. 50/$9.95 at Petsmart....it's saved many an extra cleaning job... :)
     
  7. Idjit's mom

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    Don't worry about the typing. You can try the high side box, but the opening is higher than a regular litter box. If she's having trouble getting in/out of the lower one, the higher one might really discourage her and she might not use it. You can certainly try and see what happens.
     
  8. Chris & China (GA)

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    On the site I hot-linked, you can make the opening as low as you need to so she can get in.

    Putting pee-pads at the entrance will also help if she doesn't go "all the way" in (there are also pads you can buy that are washable instead of buying the disposable ones.....in the long run, they're probably cheaper....just a little more work)
     
  9. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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  10. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    That is my setup for the moment. Space is an issue a bit. I have some people pee pads left from a family member that passed, somewhere. I will dig those out soon.

    I can accept that she is still weak, as long as it's not some extra infection or problem.
     
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  11. Chris & China (GA)

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    If you are concerned she really might have a UTI, let DCIN know.
     
  12. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    She is already on an antibiotic. I'll call in to the vet and check in and see what she thinks, but I've been trying to give her a break from me this week. Haha. I honestly suspect it's that she is weak, but more heads are better than my one. Thanks everyone! :)
     
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  13. Dusty Bones

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    The one I have has a low entry but high sides which makes it easy to enter... Of course if she's pointed in the wrong direction she'll pee outside :banghead:
     
  14. Larry and Kitties

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    I made this and others with mainly old plastic litter containers. Some of my cats just do not squat
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  15. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    Hahahaha Alice has done this several times with the low cardboard one. Straight out onto the bathroom mat or towel. But I have had a way easier time sneaking her pee away from her for ketone tests.

    So you need a starting entrance. Like a foyer ya know? Walk in here, litter is next room over. Lol.
     
  16. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    That is quite awesome. I'm not handy but I like it!

    DIY Cat Solutions. :D
     
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  17. Sharon14

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    I wasn’t as fancy as Larry, when Colin started hitting the walls with his pee, I just hung a plastic shower curtain liner on the wall...:rolleyes:
     
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  19. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    Okay that's smart too though! Simple is nice sometimes too. =^.^=
     
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  20. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    Alice used to have the most graceful, sharp jump over the baby gate that kept the bunnies out. I admired it. I will be overjoyed to see that jump again, if she becomes able. <3
     
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  21. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    Okay I had to add another wall when she managed to powerfully arch backwards out over where her food bowl lives.
    It's just funny now. 20190417_011641.jpg
     
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  22. Sharon14

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    Look at that sweet face, She’s soooo cute:cat:
     
  23. SpotsMom

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    Ugh Spot does this too. I have the walls and floor around his box lined heavily with puppy pads. The rising up while he pees thing is one of the first things he started doing when he became diabetic... and unfortunately he still does it even though his other symptoms have basically gone away :(
     
  24. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

    AliceMeowliss&Cassandra Well-Known Member

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    Aw. :( Poor Spot. How is his muscle tone in his hind area?

    Off topic, there's a poem from an episode of Star Trek about an android's Cat. It's called "Ode to Spot" and I love it.
     
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  25. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

    AliceMeowliss&Cassandra Well-Known Member

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    Dont let her fool you. She's a feisty nugget when she's feeling stronger. Even now she growls at the other cats. My 18lb kitty learned to avoid her a long time ago. Haha. =^.^=
     
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  26. Chris & China (GA)

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    This one?


    • Felis Cattus, is your taxonomic nomenclature,
      an endothermic quadruped carnivorous by nature?
      Your visual, olfactory and auditory senses
      contribute to your hunting skills, and natural defenses.

      I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations,
      a singular development of cat communications
      that obviates your basic hedonistic predilection
      for a rhythmic stroking of your fur, to demonstrate affection.

      A tail is quite essential for your acrobatic talents;
      you would not be so agile if you lacked its counterbalance.
      And when not being utilized to aide in locomotion,
      it often serves to illustrate the state of your emotion.

      O Spot, the complex levels of behaviour you display
      connote a fairly well-developed cognitive array.
      And though you are not sentient, Spot, and do not comprehend,
      I nonetheless consider you a true and valued friend.
     
  27. SpotsMom

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    Oh I love it! Data was always my favorite character. I completely forgot he had a Spot!
     
  28. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    Oh yes. <3 I've got a thing for cat poetry. I've got books.
     

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