7.22 Bella amps 160,+3 71,+4 56,+5 60+6 90, pmps 302,+2:30 187

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  1. Bellasmom

    Bellasmom Well-Known Member

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    http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/posts/2222772/
    Bella’s is all happy
    Gave Abby her food (slippery elm) and Zyrtec(for appetite) and she puked, meds already not agreeing with her and she’s only had 2 doses!:arghh: WHAT DO I DO? I feel completely helpless to save her
     
  2. carfurby (GA)

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    I'm glad Bella is doing well.

    Sorry about Abby puking. Are you giving methamizole? If so, you can get it compounded into a gel you rub inside the ear. Sending prayers. :bighug::bighug:
     
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  3. Bellasmom

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    I’m giving pills, w tried the gel to
     
  4. Sue and Luci

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    Morning Jamie! Sounds like your day is off to a rollicking start...or is that collicky? :woot: Hmmm...whatever...Sorry to hear Abby isn't feeling well...my Abbey is out there chowing down her breakfast...and now off to kill some unsuspecting creature in the backyard...Luci getting a new dose as of yesterday - hoping for some better numbers here. Happy to hear Bella is all happy too...hope he can get to the lagoon on his new decrease...:bighug::bighug:
     
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    Thanks,
    Bella is there now, he says Where’s Luci:rolleyes:?? Does she have that yellow rag on:nailbiting:
    Hope she gets to the lagoon
     
  6. Sue and Luci

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    Actually she came downstairs this morning wearing a blue dress - at least that one is better looking than that yellow or pink rag:p I'm hopeful:smuggrin:
     
  7. Bellasmom

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    Bella is colored blind o_O or maybe bean is lol:confused:
     
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  8. Bellasmom

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    Or maybe can’t read numbers:confused::confused::confused:
     
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  9. Judy and Boomer

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    Nice +3 for Bella :D
     
  10. JoyBee&Ravan

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    Don't give up on Abby yet. Isn't there a website someone here recommended.
    Did she do better on the Gel. Instead of her ear did you try another spot?

    Maybe if you give the SEB 2 hrs before the meds it will settle her stomach? And make sure it's watery not thick. My kitties have vomited when it was too thick.( you can't give it with meds, they may not get absorbed)

    So Frustrating!:( :bighug:
     
  11. LizzieInTexas

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    Did you give SEB at the same time as the Zyrtec? Did you give the methamizole at the same time also? You need to wait 2 hours after SEB to give other meds.

    Thrivingpets.com has oral suspension of the methamizole.

    http://www.thrivingpets.com/index.php/methimazole.html
     
  12. Bellasmom

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    I put the SEB I her food last night she ate then I gave meds, she threw up
    This am I put SEB in her food, waited 1 hr gave Zyrtec then waited another 1 hr and gave thyroid med so far so good
     
  13. Bellasmom

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    I’m just still so in the state of shock, I can’t think really, been so sad all day, the more I try, cry, worry, not sleep, think nothing changes, being able to do that for her with so much help from friends and strangers and it was for NOTHING:(
    On the other hand..bellas numbers are good today
     
  14. LizzieInTexas

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    :bighug:

    You had no way of knowing.

    Do you have Abbys labs? Did they only test the t4 or did they do more BW tests?
     
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  15. JoyBee&Ravan

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    Don't put the SEB in food. It coats the stomach & food & meds will not get absorbed properly.

    "Slippery elm contains many nutrients, including carbohydrates, protein, fat, ascorbic acid, beta-carotene, calcium and several trace minerals.It may stay down when other foods are not tolerated. In fact, slippery elm is known as “emergency” food.
    Give a half capsule , opened up and the contents mixed with cold water, when using slippery elm for pets.Give slippery elm apart from meals, supplements and medications by at least an hour, A separate dose at bedtime will allow it to work, undisturbed, to enhance its benefits."

    I hope this Helps :)
     
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  16. Bellasmom

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    Thank u
     
  17. Bellasmom

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    Just T4, she had preop full blood work and it was perfect except for T4
     
  18. carfurby (GA)

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    I know it is frustrating, but you did what you thought was best at the time. Sending prayers. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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    So give the slippery elm, wait 1 hrs then Zyrtec, wait 1 hrs then thyroid meds?
     
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    The problem is and why I had surgery is because the pills at the dose she needed made her deathly ill, switched to gel and did well till we uped the dose that she needed, sick again
     
  22. JoyBee&Ravan

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    Maybe try tiny increases with the gel or a bit several times a day instead of only once or twice a day. Maybe her body just needs a longer time to adjust to it?

    Did you check out the website?:)
     
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  23. Bellasmom

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    Yes, thank you
    Think I will do 1.25 am and Pm
     
  24. Bellasmom

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    The gel is like 65.00 and I don’t have it right now, will have to try the pills they gave me(i gave them Abby’s pills when she had surgery, they still had them) until I can get the gel
     
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    Apologies if you've discussed this before and I've missed it, but I was wondering if radioactive iodine was not a treatment option for Abby.

    I'm glad Bella is doing his part to ease your mind a bit today. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  27. Bellasmom

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    It wasn’t a option because they wanted it all up front and I didn’t have it, I did a fundraiser for her for the vet, he required a down pay,ent then I could make payments on the rest, trust me I’m sick so sick that I couldn’t afford it, feel sooooooooooooo bad
     
  28. Susan&Felix(GA)

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    No! You've been doing so much for her. You're a wonderful momma! Sending many vibes and vines that a good solution comes soon to regulate Abby's thyroid.
     
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    Thank Susan
     
  30. Bellasmom

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    Just having a really hard time with this emotionally
     
  31. Bobbie And Bubba

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    Jamie, as far as the thyroid meds go, I know that vomiting right after Forrest would eat was one of the symptoms of the hyper thyroid. I discovered it I give the methimazole in a tiny bit of food ( about 1 tsp ) about 20 minutes before his AM and PM meal and then only give him about 1/2 oz of food at a time, then let him relax, he usually walks around a bit, then he comes back and I put down the other 1/2 of his food. This has kept him from vomiting and me having to give the thyroid med again since he barfed it out. Hope that helps you. Also, giving Abby smaller more frequent meals like you do for Bella is helpful too.

    As far as the SEB goes, it needs to be given 2 hours away from meds, either 2 hours before or two hours after.

    I give 1/4 tsp of SEB mixed with 1/2 tsp of AVJ mixed into their food twice a day for their guts to help with constipation issues. If giving SEB for nausea then you would want to use the proportions above and let set up a bit to be able to roll it into a ball and then put on the roof of kitties mouth. Do that about 30 mins before you want them to be able to eat.

    It does get tricky with the timing of SEB when kitty is on medicines.

    Hang in there Sweetie. Try the slow feed approach and see if that helps.
     
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  32. Susan&Felix(GA)

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    It was such a bad surprise and your distress is justified. But your self-reproach is not! :bighug:
     
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  33. Bellasmom

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    Thanks Bobbie will try with her dinner tonight, going to go fix the SEB now
     
  34. Bellasmom

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    SEB done, that was way easier than I thought
     
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    They want me to give her 2.5mg am and pm, does that sound right?
     
  36. Bobbie And Bubba

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    I know that my vet wanted me to start Forrest at 2.25 morning and night. Marje said that starting dose is old school and to start him at 1.25 twice a day as to not go over and throw him into hypo thyroid and then to have to back off the meds for a while and start over. I listened to Marje and when I took him back in 3 weeks to check his levels he was perfectly in the middle normal where the vet wanted him. I told him what I did and his response was, "glad you did what you did" It was just this May that his dose went up to 2.5 twice a day as he was at the high end of normal. 3 weeks later he was right back in the middle again.


    But all that said, when he was first tested for hyper T his numbers were just at the high end of normal. It sounds like Abby was well out of the normal range. Maybe put a question mark in your title thread and say something like Hyper T advice.
     
  37. Bellasmom

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    Quick run down
    Bella’s sister hyper t, had problems taking meds, had left thyroid removed June 19th, went for recheck yesterday and it was high and small lump now on right side:(
    He wants to start her back on meds, he said 2.5 am and pm
    I’ve heard from several people that’s high dose, any help would be appreciated
     
  38. Sonia & Leo

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    :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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    Jamie, sending prayers and vines for Abby. Glad Bella is doing well. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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