8/15 Willows Pmps 322bg

[Willow]

Good morning

After the wonkey numbers yesterday we think my wife gave her a fur shot in the morning. She has been working the juice really well lately.
Now if some of the other kitties out there would just come over and play with Willow in the lagoon their parents would be very happy.

On a driving us nuts story, our male cat has been driving us nuts over his food. If it's not the way he wants he nonstops Merow's! My wife is a master of ignoring him while he knows if he comes to me I'll yell to the wife to please feed that dang cat because he is driving me nuts! Very smart cat!
If his bowl is dirty? Not eating!
If the sprinkles has set too long on the wet food? Not eating!
If someone does not pet him while he starts to eat? Not eating!
If the food sat longer then 20 minutes? Not eating!
Everyday it's a new one why he will not eat!
I have a good ideal it's because he wants a verity of different kinds of food, well this is good for them and bad for Willow, the only way I was able to get Willows numbers under control was controlling her food.

Any thoughts?

Previous tread
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/8-14-willow-pmps-271bg.182281/

 

[carfurby (GA)]

Nice start for Willow today. Sorry about your civvie. I've heard if you ignore them long enough they will eat if they're hungry. I'm not sure that will work though.

 

[Willow]

Nice start for Willow today. Sorry about your civvie. I've heard if you ignore them long enough they will eat if they're hungry. I'm not sure that will work though.

Tried that, did not work, he just turned up the volume. Never seen a cat Merow for 45 minutes straight until him

 

[Sarah Mc]

Would some Fortiflora sprinkled on top entice him? or a little raw shrimp? I suppose that you don't want to make him even prissier about it though

ETA: maybe he is a lil jealous of the extra attention that Willow is getting... cats can be so perceptive

 

[Willow]

Would some Fortiflora sprinkled on top entice him? or a little raw shrimp? I suppose that you don't want to make him even prissier about it though

ETA: maybe he is a lil jealous of the extra attention that Willow is getting... cats can be so perceptive

Hi
That is how this whole problem with him started. My wife sprinkled raw on their wet food, now if he eats past the raw he won't eat the rest. Omg he has been driving us nuts!
He will go back and fourth between my wife and I until someone gives in!
He acts like a 4 year old child that we took their ice cream from them.
Talk about being picky!

 

[apple]

You typed the sentence "until someone gives in".

You've trained him to do this. So, you'll have to decide what you want more. Him to be quiet, feed the raw and be done with it, or you not giving more raw & then let the behavior go on until it extinguishes itself and is replaced by another behavior.
Research says for every time a behavior was performed and the brain was rewarded, it takes 20-30 times of the not getting the rewarded behavior to change the brain.
Eventually the behavior will be replaced by something else. Question is, are you willing to do the work to change the behavior?
This is one of the reasons I've never fed animals upon getting out of bed. Nobody needs to learn that when I get up, they get food. I've always been able to sleep peacefully (minus the time he was first on high doses of dex, I'd get up to feed him, in the middle of the night, eventually got smart and kept cans of food by my head at night, but he never woke me up requesting food. I'd wake up because I could hear his tongue licking the plate.)
Which do you want more?
Good luck

 

[Willow]

You typed the sentence "until someone gives in".

You've trained him to do this. So, you'll have to decide what you want more. Him to be quiet, feed the raw and be done with it, or you not giving more raw & then let the behavior go on until it extinguishes itself and is replaced by another behavior.
Research says for every time a behavior was performed and the brain was rewarded, it takes 20-30 times of the not getting the rewarded behavior to change the brain.
Eventually the behavior will be replaced by something else. Question is, are you willing to do the work to change the behavior?
This is one of the reasons I've never fed animals upon getting out of bed. Nobody needs to learn that when I get up, they get food. I've always been able to sleep peacefully (minus the time he was first on high doses of dex, I'd get up to feed him, in the middle of the night, eventually got smart and kept cans of food by my head at night, but he never woke me up requesting food. I'd wake up because I could hear his tongue licking the plate.)
Which do you want more?
Good luck

Hi
I completely agree.
The reason for the feeding times is because Willow gets her shots 6am & 6pm. To make my life easier I feed the other two cats at the same time. They will try to get me up at 4 or 5 am for feeding at times and I'm not having any of that.

With his food problem, I have locked him outside my bedroom door and he sat on the other side for three hours straight scratching and merowing. 1am I gave in because I needed to get some sleep.
Something another member pointed out to me was cats like a variety with their food. Because Willow was getting into their food an killing her numbers I decided to feed everyone chicken only wet food. Willow is okay with the same food day after day, the other two not so much. When we pulled the dryfood from the house it took months to get the other two to eat wet only. I'm thinking if we give him a few different kinds of wet food he will stop. He only started this when I changed everyone to chicken wet food.

Thoughts?

 

[carfurby (GA)]

It may be worth a try, or he may get more picky because he knows he can beg and get you to give him different food. Sorry for no real answer. Good luck.

 

[apple]

Thoughts?

I've been pondering how to make a useful reply, and decided more I could type lots of things and none of it may be useful based on house and living style. Does your house have doors? Where do the cats usually eat and sleep?

In general, yes, give them the variety they want. If Willow is ok with one flavor, great. Give the male flavor. If I took you to live in my house and told you for the rest of you life you would eat brussel sprouts and brains because it's easy to find, not expensive, healthy for another member living in my house and convenient for me, you cool with giving-up everything else you have ever eaten, never to taste the flavors and textures you love again? (never did I say b&b were needed to keep your health in check)

Food for thought.

Okay, Willow, behave for your daddy.

 

[Willow]

I've been pondering how to make a useful reply, and decided more I could type lots of things and none of it may be useful based on house and living style. Does your house have doors? Where do the cats usually eat and sleep?

In general, yes, give them the variety they want. If Willow is ok with one flavor, great. Give the male flavor. If I took you to live in my house and told you for the rest of you life you would eat brussel sprouts and brains because it's easy to find, not expensive, healthy for another member living in my house and convenient for me, you cool with giving-up everything else you have ever eaten, never to taste the flavors and textures you love again? (never did I say b&b were needed to keep your health in check)

Food for thought.

Okay, Willow, behave for your daddy.

Hi
The other two cats use to sleep with us, they stopped and started sleeping downstairs.
We think we solved the eating problem.
We added a little dry food, two different kinds of wet, we pull the dry food a few hours later.
And bam! Our male cat has stoped merowing and he started to sleep with us again.

 

[apple]

Hi
The other two cats use to sleep with us, they stopped and started sleeping downstairs.
We think we solved the eating problem.
We added a little dry food, two different kinds of wet, we pull the dry food a few hours later.
And bam! Our male cat has stoped merowing and he started to sleep with us again.

Awesome!

Happy cats, happy humans. That's what life's all about.