Discussion in 'Feline Health - (The Main Forum)' started by Danielle & Milo, Aug 2, 2015.
Great! (And re: kiss on the nosie instead: Good girl!!!)
Milo's +4 reading was 180! YAY! He laid in my lap afterwards and climbed up and licked my face, my heart just melted. He was thanking me for making him feel better
Awww, sweet Milo! I would sooo love having an affectionate kitty - you are so lucky! Bat-Bat's idea of "affection": Swat. Bite. Repeat. <sigh>
Keep up the good work, Danielle!
Bobo (Bojangles) likes kisses on her ears. I had one of "those" mornings. I thought I'd set up the lancet device before bed and this morning "stuck" her 5 times with no blood droplets....I was almost in tears until I realized there was no lancet in the device! Very thankful I didn't poke her so many times though!
I had one of "those" mornings, too! First poke, the blood droplet "mushed out," popping an error code on the darned strip. So ... new lancet, 2nd poke. (Success; saw she needs a little insulin.) Then first syringe's needle bent on the way into the vial AND I realized I'd spaced out rolling the vial first to mix it anyway. (Arrrgh!) Removed bad syringe & reloaded a new one. (Success. Shot cat.)
So ... I blew through TWO strips & TWO syringes, all for a 0.15U micro-dose. (Bat-Bat just flipped me off with her tail ... & wandered off to take a nap.)
Ughhhhh so sorry! I guess we all have those days and I know there will be more for me. I think next time I have a "bad day" I will tell myself that Milo is alive and I am helping him and him feeling better is the most rewarding feeling and reassurance that I am doing the right thing.
I was thinking today, what would I do if this forum did not exist!!!
Yep, getting our kitties back to good health is what it's all about! I feel the same way about all the help I've received from FDMB - what a wonderful community of caring people!
@Robin&BB, @Danielle & Milo:
HYPO THRESHOLD ON AN ALPHATRAK IS 68 AND NOT 50.
It helps to have a note of the hypo threshold for the Alphatrak always visible and writ large at your testing station. Most people here use human meters. It helps in an emergency to have the correct number for your meter written somewhere prominent to avoid any confusion/miscommunication.
I cannot keep Milo off my lap and if I don't pet him and give him rubs he bats at me!
I am beyond thankful for this forum and all of the wonderful people on it!!!!
Yup! I had this written down on my chalkboard already in my kitchen! Thank you for the reminder and for this post to ensure I had this information. My act now number is 68 and panic number is 50 LOL!!!!
OK, now that I've appeased my inner Health and Safety Nazi ...
Well done, Danielle and Milo!
Told ya it'd get better. (I just love it when I'm right. )
And ^that^ is why we're all here.
Wonderful news, Danielle. I'm very happy for both of you. You're doing it, girl!
Panic at 68. (Being completely serious here.)
You are amazing and your positive energy is rubbing off on me! Thank you! Today is a FABULOUS day! Yes you were right and so was everyone else on here! I love it!!!!!! I am getting ready to do his +6 test, hoping he hasn't dropped too low.
Well, I know I need to act on that number but I cannot panic I have to stay calm and get his hypo kit going! I have it all set up for today just in case.
Be very proud of yourself, Danielle. You're doing great.
I'll split the difference with you. Do the swan thing. All calm and serene - above the water line.
On a more serious note, it's best to have your hypo kit 'ready to go' at all times. For example, I used to keep everything on a little sandwich tray set to one side so that I wouldn't even need to think about getting stuff together during a lower run of numbers: it was there and good to go. If Saoirse looked like she was going to go low I would move the tray with the hypo kit onto my coffee table and set out all the different items to make them as easy to grab as possible. I'd then spread some towels on the sofa just in case I might need to give her some honey or glucose syrup (can be a messy business). I'd then plonk Saoirse on the sofa and watch her like a hawk. Just some suggestions. You'll find what works for you and Milo.
Oh and if he is BELOW 200 then we do not shoot for Lantus correct?
I just did his +6 and he is at 108
Thank you I am!!!
At +6 Milo is 108!
So if he is BELOW 200 for Lantus, do not shoot correct? His insulin time is 7:30pm
@Critter Mom , @Danielle & Milo - HOLY CRAP! Thank you, Mogs!!! Bless you, Mogs! <genuflecting here> Yes: Under 69 is HYPO on Alpha Trak!
Sorry, Danielle ... but PLEASE, PLEASE change the BG range headings (colored ones @ top of page) on your spreadsheet immediately because you've got the human-glucometer ranges showing up there. Which was what I had glanced at. And someone else glancing quickly for the #s on your chart could make the same mistake, as there are so few of us @ FDMB using Alpha Traks (I'm one of them.)
Why didn't I see the gold "alpha trak" band in the chart? Because I didn't. (My bad!!!) Because I wasn't looking for that. Because I'm going blind. Because I'm ... (oh man, am I going to be beating myself up for a while!) (Where's that "a**hole" emoticon when I need it?)
If he is below 200 at PMPS time, don't shoot. He's only @ +6; you go by the # you get at his shot time.
I will be testing him PMPS which will be about 7:00pm. Thanks for confirming for me! I hope he does not keep dropping too low!
Hi! Sorry I am confused lol what do I need to do? I changed my heading and I use the Alpha Trak! I have someone updating my SS for me since I am having issues with it.
Are you checking @ +7 today? (noting drop between +4 & +6...) You might want to. (With kiss on nose after.)
Go to Bat-Bat's SS & look at those headings & you'll see what I mean.
I can get a +7 no problem I'm getting nervous he's dropping too much!
@Chris & China is doing my SS for me right now
I am not sure how you do that either ... @BJM - Do you know how Danielle can get those BG ranges on her ALPHA TRAK SS changed to reflect Alpha Trak ranges? (As she has hypo zone showing as <50, which we all know is wrong for her meter.)
Oh behave, Robin!
Don't get freaked out, Danielle - ev
I am the spawn of a very Catholic mother.
Ask them if they can change the headings at the top of the sheet to show 68 as the hypo threshold and also change the conditional formatting for the low ranges to highlight when numbers go under 68.
^^^ They'll know what this means. ^^^
Same here! Were we separated at birth?
Oops, last post blipped on me before I'd finished, Danielle - Was saying: Don't get freaked, as any hypos are readily treated! Not that we don't try to avoid that, but Bat has hypo'd plenty: Quick feed of higher-carb canned (w/gravy formula) always does the trick.
Yes I think you're correct: Twin Daughters of Different Mothers. (Takeoff on title of old Dan Fogelberg/ Tim Weisberg album.)
@Robin&BB - are you good to keep an eye on progress here? I need to duck away for a bit.
@Critter Mom - Yep. I'll stay here. Coffee'd up. Glasses clean. Eyes wide open! Will look forward to when you're back online.
He was at 84 at +7
How many minutes from now until you'd do a +8?
At +7 he was at 84. I am guessing I will not be giving him his 2 units of insulin tonight at 7:00pm.
Posted my update below! He is at 84.
I just did the +7 posted it below.
Should I keep doing every hour testing?
That +7 may, in fact, be his nadir this cycle. (Notice how the drop slowed down since the last test, as compared to the earlier drop? Yes, I would check at +8. (You could even cheat, if you want & test a few minutes early ...) Keep in mind that he does have 5 more hours before shot-time, and he may come back up enough, maybe not. This is why it's good you're getting in a bunch of tests now ... will give you a better idea of how the insulin works in Milo's body. You're doing great, Danielle. And I'm right here, waiting along with you. (Milo's doing beautifully this cycle, btw.)
Danielle, could you go ahead & plug the +6 & +7 into your spreadsheet for us?
First a sunbathe, then a dip in the lagoon, now drying off on the lawn.
@Critter Mom - Um, was that you? Or the cat?
Danielle, it's a good idea to make a note of the times and amounts you've fed since AMPS in the 'Remarks' column for today. It's very useful to refer back to.
I buy all my foundation garments there.
BG in the yellows = Sunbathing.
BG in the blues = Swimming in the lagoon.
BG in the greens = On the lawn (maybe even having a picnic!).
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was a very nice nadir ... and see, Danielle? He's on the rise!
@Robin&BB Thank you! Well I did give him a few tablespoons before his +8 so that may have contributed to the 109 LOL
No real harm done, but ... DO NOT FEED anything in that 2-hour window prior to your PMPS glucose test: As that would give you a "false" raised BG #, and we want it to be accurate - for shooting safety. (If, in fact, you're able to shoot tonight - but again, we don't want that PMPS influenced by a "dose" of food. Ok?
Purdy, purdy cycle!
@Danielle & Milo , @Critter Mom - I've got to hop off for a bit, but will be back near PMPS time. (Which is 7:30 pm Central Time, right, Danielle?)
Not necessarily a bad thing, Danielle. That 84 is mighty unfamiliar territory to Milo's glucose regulation system. That little bit of food to ease him back into the 'lagoon' may help later numbers.
If you get higher numbers in the next cycle or so, Danielle, don't worry. It may be a bounce and it will clear. Of course, we're wishing for nice purdy numbers again but it can happen when a cat's system touches healthier numbers for the first time in a while. I'm only mentioning it so that if you were to get higher numbers after this luvverly cycle you won't be disheartened. You've had a rough few days of it, and I don't want you to get worried again after such a great day today. Bounces are common in the regulation process.
I'll be ducking in and out for a while. I'll keep an eye on your thread for updates, OK?
Danielle, I should be here pretty regular and can fill in for Aine while she is in and out.
Hi Rhonda! Glad you're here.
Just had to do my PMPS. Ugh!
He will not have had any food in the 2 hours prior to his PMPS We are good!
Yes right, I am doing the PMPS soon.
Hi! Thank you Rhonda! I will be doing my PMPS shortly
Sounds good! Almost PMPS
Not a problem Danielle. I remember my first days very well! And I'm a "Show Me" girl as well, although now living in Florida.
Thank you hun! I am not having any expectations for his PMPS. I promise I will be happy regardless because Milo did have a GOOD day and I know that was because of me and all of you!
Thanks for sharing! It has been a bumpy ride for sure but I think Milo is back on track!
^^^ Now use the above as your mantra.^^^
Milo's PMPS is 109!!!!
Looks like no shooting insulin?
Can I still feed him is night meal?
Put it down to meter reading variance.
I had a spectacular one a couple of days ago: First AMBG reading was 3.6 Alphatrak (hnnh??? ). Tested again less than 60 seconds later on same ear and got a 4.7. Go figure.
Are you OK to keep an eye on Danielle and Milo now, Rhonda? (I'm dropping over here.)
Yes, we are good. Drop away, Aine!
Danielle, I definitely wouldn't shoot the 109. But you have it in the +11 column, should it be the PMPS?
And just to check Danielle, are you giving 2 units?
I am not shooting, @Chris & China is helping me do my SS so she will upate for me.
And just to make sure I haven't missed anything, are the numbers in the SS the only home testing numbers you have? Or are there some that aren't in there?
Glad I caught the news at the end of the cycle. Definitely a 'no shot' scenario.
I think a certain little kitty's liver is feeling happier today.
Danielle, if you send me your email (or the email of the person who set up your spreadsheet, if they are the "owner" - with their permission, of course) I can change it so the colours change just like on Bat-Bat's sheet - that is, change the ranges for the Alpha Trak meter and make a HYPO ALERT stand out on the sheet itself. Hers is yellow with a red font.
@Chris & China
I have some that aren't in there from 2 weeks before they were ALL high numbers
The 109 is the +11....I told her to get one so she'd have time to ask for opinions before PMPS instead of waiting for the last minute
Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification @Chris & China.
PLEASE everyone watch in 30 minutes for my true PMPS test before deciding on insulin or not.
Should we all move to the other post, so we are all on the same page?
I totally agree....Let's keep this discussion on the Lantus Forum post
Sorry all the 109 is the +11. I will be doing the PMPS in 30 minutes and will post it here for advice on whether or not to shoot. Please watch!
I WILL MOVE ALL DATA GOING FORWARD TO LANTUS FORUM, PLEASE FOLLOW IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW MILO!
Hi, Danielle! (Wow, this is exciting ...)
AlphaTrak Template linked here.
@ BJM - Will you post this over on Danielle's newer thread? As they've moved it to the Lantus forum. (Similar title to the one above.)
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