? Acne-like spots on the jaw

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  1. TTBLR

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    Hi!
    I recently discovered 3 spots on Silvester's lower jaw. They are red and two of them missing hair.
    It could be that he scratched at the spots with claws, but no idea if there was anything before, or scratching is the cause.
    At the time of discovery it looked like pieces of food, tried taking it off, and the spot was bleeding.
    He does not seem bothered by it.
    Have anyone come across something like that?
    Ty.
     

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  2. Lesliejm

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    My cat mango has those all the time on his chin the doctor says it's chin acne but I know he rubs against a lot of stuff maybe because it itches and it looks like scabs. My vet isn't very concerned about it you can probably put Neosporin without pain relief on it.
     
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  3. Becky & Baby Girl Kitty

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    They say to use stainless steel bowls & keep them clean. My sons cats got these until he switched. Some are just more prone to chin pimples! I think the vet gave him something to dab on them. :)
     
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  4. FurBabiesMama

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    What kind of bowls does Silvester eat from? I have read that chin acne can occur from eating out of plastic bowls. Mia sometimes has a sore on her chin, and she only eats from stainless steel and ceramic. I think it is from scratching. I noticed it when she was eating Fancy Feast. Then, I noticed it again more recently, and I think it is the m/d kibbles I have had to give her several times lately to bring up her BG when it was going too low. So, I am thinking she is allergic/sensitive to something in those, and it makes her chin itch, and she ends up nicking herself when she scratches, and that gets a little scab.
     
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  5. Noah & me (GA)

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    A good reason why medical instruments are made from stainless steel and not plastic, easier to clean by blasting them with almost anything, less porous than many plastics. Stainless steel with a high nickel/chromium content will still be in landfills 1,000 years from now, ready to be cleaned and used again. No one wants wet food smeared over acne. :blackeye:
     
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  6. TTBLR

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    Does Mango miss hair on the spots? Silvester does not rub, at least I have not noticed him do that. But he does scratch with a paw at these spots.
     
  7. Lesliejm

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    Yes, hair is missing.
     
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  8. TTBLR

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    I use ceramic. I've read about that bowls could cause that, but ceramic they say is also good to use.
     
  9. TTBLR

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    Ceramic bowls. Haven't used anything made from plastic since I quit giving him dry food, which was more a than year ago. Silvester does eat fancy feast, but I noticed these things just yesterday. I noticed Silvester scratch hard at these spots.
     
  10. Noah & me (GA)

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    High quality glazed ceramic should be okay.
     
  11. TTBLR

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    I've read that some cats do not learn to clean themselves at the area. Because pieces of food might stick and other things could be a cause.
     
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  12. TTBLR

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    Not sure about quality of bowls I have right now, but I am going to change them.
     
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  13. Noah & me (GA)

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    I've had a few cats and dogs that just don't like stainless steel (too shiny?) or water in a light colored ceramic bowl (can't see the bottom, no depth perception, splash it everywhere!). Try again. :(
     
  14. TTBLR

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    Do you think it could be caused by other contacts with plastic? I have a christmas tree which Silvester rubs against sometimes. His litter box is also plastic.
     
  15. Squalliesmom

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    It seems like some cats are just more prone to chin acne than other cats. Squallie has eaten out of high-quality ceramic or stoneware bowls for years, yet he still gets chin acne. None of my other three ever get it, and they eat out of the same bowls. Go figure!

    ETA: It has never been a huge problem for him, even one time he had some large spots that bled and scabbed over; it just didn't seem to bother him unless I messed with it. I don't treat it with anything, it always clears up on it's own, eventually. Just keep it clean.
     
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  16. Squalliesmom

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    Very doubtful. :cat:
     
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    Does Squallie miss hair at these spots?
     
  18. Squeaky and KT (GA)

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    I have cats with this chronically. It's 'cat acne' - some are prone to it, kitties with allergies seems to be more prone. I wipe them with a human acne pad or witch hazel and let them heal - no antibiotic cream unless them get infected....vaseline instead.

    The CAUSE of it is still unknown but here's more info on it at the links below. It's also never been proven that any type bowl causes it, only anecdotal evidence. Plastic does harbor more bacteria but if bowls are well washed often, bacteria doesn't have a chance to grow.

    This article is a National Library of Medicine Pubmed entitled "An evaluation of the clinical, cytological, infectious and histopathological features of feline acne."

    Link here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16515656

    This is a Mercola (manufacturer) published article written by a vet. I'm not a big fan of anything published by a manufacturer. In this case, this is about the only article I could find that has a bit of 'meat' to it about the whole toxicology of the sores. Altho' this is still only the opinion of this vet in many places even the ending talking about plastic bowls. He can't quote any peer reviewed, actual research.

    https://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2013/12/09/feline-acne.aspx

    I have 5 that have eaten twice a day from plastic bowls their whole lives - the oldest 2 are 10 years old. 1 of them had one once, never reoccurred. Snow eats off glass/ceramic/melmac (hard baked plastic) and has them often. Bebo gets one every few months. I wash all bowls/plates usually within an hour of them being used either by hand or dishwasher so they don't have a lot of chance to harbor bacteria. Those 2 that get them are my severe allergies/asthma cats.

    I have spent a lot of time reading, researching and asking in all sorts of places about this topic, the cause is just not known

    ....and lots of time doctoring sores over the years. :)
     
  19. TTBLR

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    Thank you for the articles, learnt something new.
    There are lots of factors, that it is hard to know.
    I've read about a case where owner had to lick his/her cat's paw and clean cat's chin with it, so that cat could learn to do it for itself. It did solve the problem. Some cats do not learn to clean this area.

    I am not sure how long Silvester have had them. Going to clean his chin clean, and will see if it heals.

    Do your cats miss hair at the spots too?
     
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  20. Noah & me (GA)

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    Just keep them clean, sounds pretty simple. Stainless steel is an alloy so there are some really low grade versions just like the rust streak in a sink that just won't go away.
     
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  21. Critter Mom

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    Now that really is dedication! :cat:


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  22. Squeaky and KT (GA)

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    Yes the hair is killed by the organisms in it but it grows back...Snow does have places that are hairless when he's gotten one on top of another healed one causing a scar thus a bald spot.
     
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  23. Noah & me (GA)

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    Demented wild life rehab. How to poop coffee beans for fun and profit. Any thoughts @FurBabiesMama @Kris & Teasel ?
     
  24. FurBabiesMama

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    That is nasty. Why do you even know about this??
     
  25. TTBLR

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    Silvester was bleeding again in the spot. I think he scratched.
     
  26. Squalliesmom

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    Yes, he does, but it grows back.:)

    It's called Kopi Luwak and it's coffee beans that have passed through the digestive systems of civets, ugh. It's the most expensive coffee in the world, literally. I don't think I'd drink it if they gave it away for free, lol! Yuck!o_O
     
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  27. Julia Rae

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    Yuk I agree and I live on the stuff...
     
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  28. Squalliesmom

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    Yeah, coffee pretty much runs in my veins, but I would have to draw the line at cat poop coffee, lol! :rolleyes::stop:
     
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  29. Noah & me (GA)

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    Trivial Pursuit, OCD edition.
    @Squeaky and KT (GA) I spoke too soon, many different kinds of plastics. :(
     
  30. Squalliesmom

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    Lol, that must be the same edition I have! :confused:
     
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  31. Lesliejm

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  33. Becky & Baby Girl Kitty

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    This is not for use on the cat!! FYI Lysol or scrubbing bubbles & a Mr clean magic eraser on your sinks, tubs, etc will remove just about anything & won’t etch the stainless. I cleaned homes in between cosmetology & factory work. Great money but the ruination of my lumbar!
    Used to be queen of clean... now merely a wannabe because of pain. Today I’m in bed...need better meds at this point!
     
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  34. Becky & Baby Girl Kitty

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    no thank you on the poopy coffee- I’ve heard of that & folgers if fine
     
  35. Critter Mom

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    I pity the 1% - having to go to such lengths to find ways to spend all their filthy lucre. Bless.

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  36. Squalliesmom

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    Agreed!:p:p:facepalm::rolleyes:
     
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  37. Noah & me (GA)

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    What, Lysol and Mr. Clean Magic Erasers? I've read the Magic Erasers have some really nasty chemical in them, liver failure if they still have a liver.
    Under the coffee table Becky, "May cause drowsiness"
     
  38. Becky & Baby Girl Kitty

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    Lol. I’m such a clean fanatic I’m not afraid of too many chemicals. I only allow a couple of the bad toxic things here. Myers all naturals are in my cupboard too... I do it for the environment & Baby. Thank you under the table! Baby’s by my side!
     
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