Bounce or not enough insulin?

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  1. RRaptor

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    Olivia's coat is improving, her appetite seems normal, she's not drinking excessively. Her diabetes are not controlled. Could someone take a look at the spreadsheet and offer any ideas? I recently shared it with the vet, but she is unconcerned and hasn't replied yet. Am I going to have to do some night checks to make sure she's not going too low at night, causing those scary morning highs?
     
  2. Rachel

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    Hmmm...well first and foremost, the fact that she SEEMS better, is a good start. I know the numbers aren't great, but we get caught up in numbers sometimes here. Remember that Olivia is not just a number. Her symptoms having gotten better is GREAT.

    As for her numbers...that's a tough one. My honest thought is she just isn't getting enough insulin. Any numbers you can get at night are helpful, but the other night you got a +6 which was yellow and then she was black in the morning. Looking back a few weeks, she was hitting her low numbers early in the cycle.

    Has anything changed foodwise or environment wise? Any possibility of an infection of some sort brewing? If not, I think she might just need more insulin right now. She's not getting very low during the day and what we've seen of the night isn't low either. I know she was doing well on 2 units not so long ago, but insulin needs can change over time.
     
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  3. Kris & Teasel

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    Good advice from Rachel. I'd try carefully increasing by 0.25 u at a time. Do the increases on a weekend or when you can be home to monitor.
     
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  4. RRaptor

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    @Rachel Nothing has changed, except perhaps that our foster kitten is 4 months old and REALLY annoying to everyone, all the time. She is eating more than she was mid-July, but feeding friskies pates. Food switch happened at beginning of spreadsheet after a DKA.

    @Kris & Teasel I can try a .25 increase. I'm leaving town Thursday, however, and boarding Liv at the vet's for 5 days since her DKA was also when I was out of town and my brother/pet sitter is afraid of something happening again.
     
  5. RRaptor

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    Ok, I sent the vet a research article. She agreed I could up to 3 units, but watch for hypo. Instead, I'm going low and slow up to (what I guess is) 2.25 on a u-40 with only unit markings.

    Anyone have luck with vet/ techs going along with this sort of dosing while boarding?
     
  6. RRaptor

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    It looks like 2.25 gave us pink and yellow. Safe to up to 2.5 this morning after 3 doses at 2.25?
     
  7. Kris & Teasel

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    Yes, I think so, especially if you can monitor. Get a +2 to see where she's headed.
     
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  8. RRaptor

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    346 at +2
     
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    226 +5
     
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