? Bronx going low, bad timing for work trip, need advise on dosing for pet sitter

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  1. Bronx's dad (GA)

    Bronx's dad (GA) Well-Known Member

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    Hello all, hope everyone had a nice weekend!

    Bronx's acro tumor must be taking a siesta and he is hitting lime greens left and right. I leave Monday morn for 2 nights and pet sitter will only be able to test at shot time. Not sure what to tell her about dosing? Thanks!
     
  2. Ana & Frosty (GA)

    Ana & Frosty (GA) Well-Known Member

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    Will they be testing? If so, I would try 8 units. Otherwise, I may try a 7 . As you know, I only have 6 months experience with this and my cat has Cushing’s, but this is probably what i would do. Hopefully someone with experience with Acros can weigh in... @Wendy&Neko ?
     
  3. Bronx's dad (GA)

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    Yes, but only when she comes at shot time. My dad will take care of the in between feedings but he cannot test.
     
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  4. Ana & Frosty (GA)

    Ana & Frosty (GA) Well-Known Member

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    Gotcha. And you still have tomorrow. Go down to 8 units and see how he does. If he’s in the blues or yellows, I would leave it at that dose until you get back. Better high than low while you are away, at least that’s what I would do. You can get him under tighter control when you get back. Also, it’s great that your dad will be there between feedings so he can watch for any unusual behavior (excessive drinking/urinating, lethargy, etc).

    And if he’s still low or uncomfortably close to low on 8, you can go down to 7.
     
  5. Christie & Maverick

    Christie & Maverick Well-Known Member

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    Hi Paul, nice to see Bronx in single digit doses ;). I recall reading for "vacation doses" ideally you start the dose a few days early, and see how the kittie does. It looks like you only have a couple of cycles to try out a pet sitter dose, and Bronx still has a lot of depot behind him, hitting limes. I was going to ask about feeding, glad to see Bronx will have food available. Just thinking out loud, it's only a couple of days, what do you think about no shot tonight to drain depot a bit, then I think it looks like you have a couple of cycles before you go...maybe try around 7u? No R in the mix, right? I think Wendy might be travelling, not sure if she will see your post right away.
     
  6. Christie & Maverick

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    I think Ana and I are on the same page :) It's the Acro factor that I'm not so sure about, and Bronx does look like he's making some fancy moves later in the cycles lately. Your dad may need to leave out a few food bowls if he's not staying around.
     
  7. Bronx's dad (GA)

    Bronx's dad (GA) Well-Known Member

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    If he's still low at shot time, I may skip tonight. Yep, no R in the mix.
     
  8. Christie & Maverick

    Christie & Maverick Well-Known Member

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    Sounds good, and just a suggestion, even if there is a bit of a higher number tomorrow at preshot, if you decide 7u is the pet sitter dose, I'd just stay the course with 7u, that may help settle him down a bit? I feel for you, I hate the thought of leaving Mav, let alone when he's having crazy cycles. You may still get better suggestions from folks with big gulpers, but hope it helps a little.
     
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  9. LizzieInTexas

    LizzieInTexas Well-Known Member

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    That was my initial thought also. Drain that depot and shoot a reduced dose (what that dose would be is your call).
     
  10. Bronx's dad (GA)

    Bronx's dad (GA) Well-Known Member

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    He was just 79 at shot time, but that's also food influenced, after his 39 at +10. I only gave him 4u. I figure I can be with him tonight so will do the drain-the-depot no-shot tomorrow morn if need be, since I'll be leaving about 2hrs aft shot time. Timing of this trip stinks!
     
  11. Bronx's dad (GA)

    Bronx's dad (GA) Well-Known Member

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    And it may have been a FS, I smell insulin on him. I don't know how to shoot single digits :p
     
  12. Christie & Maverick

    Christie & Maverick Well-Known Member

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    Lol...4u must look so small o_O, well that's ok, Bronx is still getting some nice duration from his 9.5u, hope you have a quiet night, extra chin scritches for Bronx.
     
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  13. Chubba (GA)

    Chubba (GA) Well-Known Member

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    Wow ... Bronx is in single digits! :D That’s awesome, but the timing isn’t the greatest. :cat:
    Behave and stay safe, Bronx.
     
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  14. Bronx's dad (GA)

    Bronx's dad (GA) Well-Known Member

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    I can't help but think how other acros like Gizmo & Capt Jack also went quickly down the dosing ladder, which was actually the beginning of the end :(.
     
  15. Ella & Rusty & Stu(GA)

    Ella & Rusty & Stu(GA) Well-Known Member

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    We had our sitter give a token dose. Even though Rusty’s dose is so small, the token drop didn’t even register. I could have given fur shots! Anyway, no harm was done. i suspect that a small dose would work just fine for Bronx. He’ll get back on track when you get home. Have a good trip.
     
  16. Christie & Maverick

    Christie & Maverick Well-Known Member

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    No...positive thoughts only allowed :bighug:...he had some 9u doses a while back...maybe he just decided he liked single digits better ;).
     
  17. Ella & Rusty & Stu(GA)

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    Please put such thoughts out of your mind, Paul. Concentrate on the positive. ECID. :cat:
     
  18. Bronx's dad (GA)

    Bronx's dad (GA) Well-Known Member

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    Ok, positive thoughts...the SRT done last May is finally working :)
     
  19. Christie & Maverick

    Christie & Maverick Well-Known Member

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    There...I like that much better ;)
     
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  20. Bronx's dad (GA)

    Bronx's dad (GA) Well-Known Member

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    One day I may have to borrow your calipers :p
     
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  21. Amanda & Shmee

    Amanda & Shmee Well-Known Member

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    I don't have advice but just sending vines your way for the time spent away! :bighug: I hope you can figure out a safe dose. Bronx looks to be doing very well.
     
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  22. JeffJ

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    Good to see some dosage reduction. Too bad about the timing. Leo's vet told me one thing when Leo got diabetes 3 years ago "Keep Leo safe."

    I have taken that as a mantra. So my recommendation would be to reduce his dose while you are gone. And you should have clear instructions:
    - dosages for AMPS and PMPS
    - very very clear instructions on "this is 8.0 units in the syringe", "this is 9.0 units in the syringe"
    - hypo instructions and supplies

    We are even worse. We never even leave Leo anymore. Even we make mistakes, and we can't bear the thought of someone else messing up Leo's dosage or feeding. Just this week Leo had a hypo because we missed his 3pm feeding. He eats multiple small meals/day, and that component is important for his BG to stay up.
     
  23. Carol in Chicago

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    Sorry I can't offer anything useful in terms of dose advice. Wishing you a productive, positive, and safe business trip.
     
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  24. Phoebes (GA)

    Phoebes (GA) Well-Known Member

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    Isn't it crazy!! I swear we've had more FS with single digits and now with 1 unit, I don't even know if it goes in. Crazy! Good luck with your trip!
     
  25. Dyana

    Dyana Well-Known Member

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    Your pet sitter will be texting you or calling you with the numbers before shooting if they are questionable or within a certain low range? I think by draining the depot and a reduced dose, he will be fine. It's only 2 days. Best Of Luck on your trip.
     
  26. Bronx's dad (GA)

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    Yes, she can call after the test. Yeah, only 2 nights. Next month is a 4-nite trip :nailbiting:.

    +9 is 360, I guess the depot is drained from the BCS that may have been a FS
     
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  27. Bronx's dad (GA)

    Bronx's dad (GA) Well-Known Member

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    He won't let me pack my bag haha. Spot on back is shaved for the pet sitter


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  28. JeffJ

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    Bronx is such a good boy. He knows Dad is about to leave!
     
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  29. Phoebes (GA)

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    Awww he doesnt want daddy to leave!! :) so cute
     
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  30. Pamela & Amethyst

    Pamela & Amethyst Well-Known Member

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    AWWWW!! Safe Traveling and safe and healthy for Bronx:bighug::bighug:
     
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  31. Wendy&Neko

    Wendy&Neko Senior Member Moderator

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    Sorry, just got back home late last night. Remember that the larger depots can influence up to six cycles after the reduction so you could have been seeing some 12 unit depot influence. A couple of days of lower doses will be fine, he will recover.

    As for SRT, it works in fits and starts. Bronx has come down already from a much larger dose. Neko plateaued at some doses for quite a few months before the tumour cells died off again and reductions began anew. SRT neuter the cells, you have to wait for them to live their live and die.
     
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