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  1. Peppersmom72

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    I'm doing a curve tonight. We are going on +7, and Pepper's still dropping. I'm getting a little nervous. Any one awake that can hold my hand for a bit?
     
  2. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    Hi :bighug: so pepper likes to surf while you sleep! How much longer are you staying up? Right now you're quite safe. But you do need to keep monitoring.
     
  3. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    And yes, I'll stay with you:)
     
  4. Peppersmom72

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    I'm up as long as she's surfing.
     
  5. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    Okey dokey. How many minutes to next test? Are you giving her regular lc so you can see what she's really doing at night? Or have you carb steered at all?
     
  6. Peppersmom72

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    We experienced a bounce this afternoon, so I thought it would be a good idea to do a curve. She seems to have a stubborn pancreas.
     
  7. Peppersmom72

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    Shes a grazer during the day. She never eats during the night. She ate a little around 1245. Her +7 is at 1:45. She's on LC. She eats FF Classics.
     
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  8. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    So is your no shoot 200? Is that why no insulin this am?
     
  9. Peppersmom72

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    I am gone for 12 hrs a day for work. I didn't give a shot because she kept dropping with food on board.
     
  10. Peppersmom72

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    Vet says not to shoot under 200.
     
  11. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    I want to kiss her face - oh my goodness the pooches by her mouth! :bighug:
     
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  12. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    I'll be back in few for +7 results :)
     
  13. Peppersmom72

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    Ok, see ya in a bit.
     
  14. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    I'm here
     
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  16. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    Flat is good. +8? You gonna stay up or carb her up and sleep? I'm good to hang with you. Myagi is active tonight too.
     
  17. Peppersmom72

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    I'm going to test again in an hour to see if she drops again or surfs again, since she had food an hour ago.
     
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    Myagi sounds like a fun kitty. I started Pepper on Zobaline a few days ago. I'm hoping it helps her.
     
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  20. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    He's my good boy! The Zobaline has made a huge diff.
     
  21. Peppersmom72

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    That's great. He's a handsome boy.
     
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  22. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    Thank you. Just woke him fur test. 79 so he's eating now.
     
  23. Peppersmom72

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    If her number goes up again at +8, will it be ok to get some sleep? Her next insulin dose is due at 630.
     
  24. Peppersmom72

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    Is that low or normal for him?
     
  25. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    It was pretty flat. Let's see first if it goes up.
     
  26. Peppersmom72

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    What does it mean when you say flat?
     
  27. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    None of this is normal lol. We're pretty new to this so he is just starting to be more comfortable in lower numbers. If this were day I wouldn't give the extra carbs. But since I can't swear I won't sleep through an alarm I'd rather slow his roll. Lol
     
  28. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    Relatively same numbers across a period of hours.
     
  29. Peppersmom72

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    Ok. Have you done this before? I mean having a FD? You talk like a veteran. Lol
     
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  30. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    Nope. But i care fur mom and she is diabetic. I've had a kitty with renal failure. My dad was a doctor. Fd was Greek but you catch on quick when someone you love needs your help. As you well know, doing tests at 240am your time! Thanks I still very much consider myself a newbie!
     
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  32. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    So you can get about 3 hours of sleep! :p
     
  33. Peppersmom72

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    Thank you so much for staying up with me:bighug::bighug:
     
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  34. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    It truly was my pleasure! Pepper did great, aren't you glad to know how she responds to the insulin? I have questions but you need sleep! Talk to you soon! :bighug:
     
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  35. Peppersmom72

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    I'm going to bed now.
     
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  36. Peppersmom72

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    You can always message me
     
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  37. Peppersmom72

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    I'll respond later in the morning
     
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  38. Kris & Teasel

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    I'm glad you had help last night and you did really well! :) It would be useful for you in case it happens again to keep a record on your SS of how much food intervention you had to do - what food, what amount, when.

    I suggest you hold that 1.5 u dose again today and try for a couple of BG tests between +5 and +7. This is to get a baseline as I mentioned in my post yesterday when you tagged me.
     
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  39. Peppersmom72

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    I didn't do food intervention. She was hungry at 1245, so I fed her. She took a couple bites and did not eat again until 6am this morning. Am I feeding her wrong? I was told to feed her when she's hungry in between her regular meals of 6am, 10 am, 2pm, 6pm and 10pm.
     
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  40. Kris & Teasel

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    If no food intervention those numbers are good. Follow her lead for feeding. You don't have to force food on her between her meal times. I see her yellow at +6 and that's fine. Stay with that dose for a few more cycles to build up reference data for the next dosing decision. The goal is to see if she'll stabilize more with consistent dosing. :)
     
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  41. Peppersmom72

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    @Kris & Teasel

    What do I do about tonight? She's at 289 now and ready for her shot in 15 mins. Knowing she went from 400's to 144 last night at 1.5u. This is where the fear creeps over knowing how she drops and surfs at night. Please help me to understand.
     
  42. Peppersmom72

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    Can someone please explain this question to me? Her shot is due now.
     
  43. Brittany-Tig

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    Has your vet ever given you insight and say “Don’t dose if reading is below ‘this?’” I think it’s a judgement call. If you’re able to stay and monitor again maybe yes. If you can’t then probably not. I’m sorry I can’t be more helpful
     
  44. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    I'm here but i don't give dosing advise and don't knife about prozinc anyway.
    @Marje and Gracie
    @Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey
     
  45. Peppersmom72

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    The vet told me not to shoot under 200. It just literally makes me ill knowing I can make her go into hypo with shooting a full dose with numbers below 300.
     
  46. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    Let me try to find someone so you can maybe do a reduced shot.
     
  47. Peppersmom72

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    @Myagi and Heidi

    It's too late. I already gave it to her. I'm having a panic attack over here.
     
  48. Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey

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    I'm sorry, I really don't know anything about Prozinc. If I had to guess, I'd say those high numbers last night were a bounce, and one of the reasons she went so low was that she cleared that bounce. It looks like she bounced again this morning and is clearing that bounce, as well.

    Don't panic. As long as you are there and are monitoring, you can keep her safe. Can you stay up as long as necessary tonight and monitor? Do you have plenty of testing supplies and HC?
     
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  49. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    @Wendy&Neko can you help with dose advise for prozinc?
     
  50. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    Missy, change your title to time to shoot now, need dose advise.
     
  51. Peppersmom72

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    I just did a curve last night and have only had 3 hrs sleep in the past 24 hrs. I guess I can stay up all night again for her safety.
     
  52. Peppersmom72

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    I don't know how to change it. Do I just create a whole new post in Prozinc?
     
  53. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    We typed over each other. But I know you'll keep her safe. I'll be around again.
     
  54. Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey

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    That's probably not a bad idea. More eyes there with Prozinc experience. Be sure you indicate in the subject line that you already shot and would like guidance from there.

    If you do want to change your subject line, go up to the top of your first post and put your cursor over "Thread Tools". It will give you an option to "edit title".
     
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  55. Peppersmom72

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    Thank you! I do appreciate your support. Now just to calm myself down.:(
     
  56. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    For something that urgent I've seen them advise people to post in general with a question mark or 911 (if needed) rather than prozinc so you have more people see you.

    If you click on the title you'll see edit, click that and edit.
     
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  57. Peppersmom72

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    I hope it doesn't come to that
     
  58. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    I'm sure it won't! But I'd still stay here in general health unless a prozinc person is going to stay up with you over there.
     
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  59. Peppersmom72

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    I posted in Prozinc, so we'll see.
     
  60. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    How's it going?
     
  61. Wendy&Neko

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    No, I have never used Prozinc, so can't advice on it. Neither should anyone else who hasn't used Prozinc.
     
  62. Kris & Teasel

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    I answered on your ProZinc thread.
     
  63. Marje and Gracie

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    I’m sorry but I also have never used Prozinc and so I don’t offer any dosing advice on it. The best place to post for dosing advice on PZ is on the PZ forum.
     
  64. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    Thanks Marje! She's over there now. :)
     
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  65. Peppersmom72

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    @Myagi and Heidi

    Hi. She's at 138 now, 3 hrs until nadir. You can guess how nervous I am now. Everyone is being helpful in Prozinc land.
     
  66. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    Yeah I've been checking in. You'll both be good. Remember if she goes lower than you're comfortable you can slow her or steer with teeny amount of mc or hc. :bighug:
     
  67. Peppersmom72

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    I don't want to sabotage her. I'm trying to stay calm. I would have liked to catch up on sleep tonight, but I'm a helicopter mama bean. (As my daughter calls me).
     
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  68. Myagi (GA) and Heidi

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    I know that feeling. But I think he's better for my slightly obsessive care. Lol
     
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