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DKA. Can someone help. Please?

Discussion in 'Feline Health - (The Main Forum)' started by Aliciakuy, Aug 12, 2019.

  1. Aliciakuy

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    My cat who has ITP has been on prednisolone since he was 3 months old he is 1.5 years now. His BG the last several months has been over 300 when checked and doc ignored because said pred was causing it and to wean off. He is off it now but hasn't felt okay or eaten since tuesday. He has been at the vet since Saturday and has ketones 3 plus or something. His potassium was 2.2. Bg checked today and 400 something. Yesterday afternoon he was actually acting like himself and his bg was 240. He was walking around the clinic and everything. That night he started acting the way he has been lethargic and not moving. He is on 2 units of lantus twice daily as of today. He has been on IV fluids with potassium and a b complex since Saturday. I feel like I'm going to lose him. He cannot walk at all as he is completely weak. I don't know if this is something he can get better from. He has never been treated for diabetes before. He is my perfect angel kitty never does a single thing wrong and doesnt deserve this. He still isnt eating and is being force fed several times a day. I get his labs checked every 3 weeks to manage his ITP and make sure it's all okay. Today his liver enzymes are up and has bilirubin in his urine. Someone please give me some insight. I know nothing about diabetes or ketoacidosis and just don't know what to do. I feel like his life is over and I'm waiting for him to just die. He will walk a few inches then lie back down. They allowed me to take him home tonight to be with me and his kitty friend and not in a cage all alone. But needs to go back tomorrow to get more insulin and bg check and back on the IV. I just do not know what to do or expect. I'm so lost and helpless
     
  2. Ann & Scatcats

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    DKA is a very serious condition. Often becomes unconsious and hard to contact. The brain cells are swelled over with rapid floods of salts into them.

    How often is his bg checked during a day?
    The bg should be checked several times a day.

    And how often is his blood ketones checked during a day?
     
  3. Aliciakuy

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    I know it is serious trust me I have been bawling since Saturday. I work at the cat speciality clinic as an assistant. They checked his bg a few times today and gave him 2 units of lantus at 930am and i have to again at same time PM today. Blood ketones I'm not sure I think they only did it once saturday when they checked his urine. I just don't know what to do. Sit and watch him die? He was finished with his 1000ml bag of fluids and they gave him 150mls to last him the night before he goes back to stay tomorrow.
     
  4. Aliciakuy

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    I'm just begging for insight I just don't know what to do and they are stumped. He had a 99 temp ranging to 103 in the last couple of days. They put him on metronidazole again 100mg total and zeniquin just incase he has a weird buy his suppressed immune system cant fight off (he is on cyclosporine for ITP)

    He is also on 2 tumil k pills
     
  5. Ann & Scatcats

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    Poor baby, he has a lot on his plate. He is lucky to have you.
    I seriously hope his temp goes down. Could he have had some infection that has crashed his entire system. That is a lot, but I can see that he is well taken care of.
    It's okay to cry, I sure have many times with mine.
    I can't help out to make him well, with so much for him to fight at the same time, I just hope he turns around fast and become well.

    Others here might help you better.
     
  6. Aliciakuy

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    His temp is okay but he is not mentally there. Nothing. Is there any suggestion at all on how to help or what they could be doing different? They would listen. I'm desperate
     
  7. Margie and Jackson

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    To get more eyes you should edit your title to add a question mark. I’m sorry I don’t have experience with DKA. I hope your kitty recovers soon.
     
  8. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Hi and welcome to FDMB.
    I am sorry your kitty is so unwell. Can you tell us his name please?
    Has he been actually diagnosed with DKA or has he just got ketones in his urine?
    The recipe for DKA is not enough insulin, not enough food and an infection or inflammation. Ketones can quickly develop into DKA.
    If it is DKA I am surprised they let him go home overnight.
    Are you home testing the BG levels?
    Also I think it is important to be testing the urine very day for ketones to try and keep them from developing further.
    The weakness in the legs could be caused by the low potassium levels.
    If he has been on an IV drip he should not be dehydrated, I would not think.
    I think it is really important that you are checking the BGLevels yourself as they do fluctuate and you have no way of knowing what they are unless you are testing.
    Are you able to get him to eat any food?
    With DKA and with diabetes it is important they eat. I'll post this and then add more. If you could answer the questions I asked that would be great. I know this is very stressful for you!:bighug:
     
  9. Aliciakuy

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    His name is Morton. He is diagnosed with plus 3 ketones as of Saturday. He will eat absolutely nothing. He is at the point he is too weak to walk today. And just urinates where he is lying. They only let him go home just to be comfortable for a night they syringe fed at 6pm and tested BG and temp and gave 150mls sub q fluids but want him back tomorrow morning. They said he would be better at home since he is there alone and just on an IV and sad. And tonight I am giving his 2 units lantus after I syringe feed about 15mls. He is on metronidazole and zeniquin for possible infection. Hes my soul mate cat.

    I think he could have gotten dka from untreated diabetes having it for months and the dr ignoring it and saying get off the pred and it will get normal bg.... he goes in fits of not eating for a long time now but this time he did not recover and here we are
     
  10. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Hi Morton and Mom!
    Yes he probably did get the DKA from untreated diabetes.
    But even though it is a very serious illness, it can often be successfully treated and hopefully Morton will soon start to feel better.
    There are things you can do to help him.

    The vets at the clinic should know the treatment for DKA while he is in hospital.
    He has been on a drip and it sounds as if he will go back on it tomorrow.
    Is he still having an antibiotic? It is really important he has any infection/inflammation treated as part of the treatment for DKA.
    Do you know if he has been given any antinausea medication..? Nauseated cats don't like to eat. Most cats with DKA have trouble eating.
    Did the clinic check his BG level during the day to see how low the insulin was taking Morton?
    So the most important things you can do for him now are
    • Make sure he is getting enough food. Any food at all at this point is ok. Force feed if necessary. But he must eat. Food is like medicine for DKA cats. After you syringe feed him and give him insulin, I would keep syringe feeding him during the night every couple of hours. Food will help keep the ketones at bay.
    • He needs enough insulin. The only way you can tell if it is enough is if you are testing the BG levels yourself when he is at home. If I were you I would go out tomorrow morning after you drop him back at the clinic and buy a human glucose meter from Walmart. ReliOn brand has a range. You need to be testing before EVERYshot to see it is safe to give the insulin. And then test again during the cycle to see how low the insulin is taking Morton. We can help you learn to test.
    • While you are at Walmart, buy a bottle of Ketostix which will let you test the urine for ketones. It is important to keep a track of how many ketones are in the urine. They need testing at least daily at the moment.
    • Fluids are also very important but as he has been on a drip and had 150 mls subQ he should be ok til he goes back on the drip in the morning.
     
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    He started the antibiotics today. They did not give me that info as he is coming right back in. They test before they give insulin but just started this morning. Force feeding only he has not willingly eaten since Tuesday. He has cerenia for nausea but it has not helped his appetite at all. was on cypro for days but that did not stimulate appetite. He is fighting the feedings a lot though he just did and was pretty strong about trying to get away. I gave him 10mls of a/d royal canin pate and 2 units of lantus like they instructed tonight. It's all I can do today. He literally just started insulin at 930am today so this is his 2nd shot. He did not have any yesterday but 3pm his bg was 240 and he acted so much better but now it's just over 300 to 400. I believe it was 400 when they checked this evening. I believe they might raise the insulin soon to see where it takes him but he pretty much is in their care my boss (the vet) just thought hey maybe he would be happier at home for about 12 hrs over night here are his meds and lantus and syringe feed and just try to make him happy..he is completely shut off at the vet he goes in every 3 weeks to check his platelets and he is instantly turned off when he sees the carrier. He is a little more engaged tonight but seems just blah and bummed. He did venture off the blanket about 4 feet to try to go to the litter box but I helped him in it and he crawled out the side...for some reason he never uses the opening shallow end. And kind of stumbled out and thought ok I will sit here

    By SAFE. What do you mean? If bg is too low? His has just been high.


    And actually..he did nibble a bit when his bg was 240 yesterday afternoon then he crashed again when I saw him in the evening
     
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  13. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Do you have any honey or Karo at home in case you need it, if the BG level does drop low?

    I know it is hard to force feed but it's really important he gets more food. Do you think you could feed him some more times overnight? He needs it for the DKA and because he has had insulin..
    Lantus is a long acting insulin so it's onset is usually around +2...2 hours after the insulin is given, and the lowest point is usually around +5 to +7 ....5 to 7 hours after the insulin is given. So it's important during the 1st half of the cycle (12 hours) that Morton gets some more food.
    And with the DKA, food intake is one of the most important things you can do.

    There is another antinausea medication called ondansetron which is also very good for cats. Ask the vets about that. It sometimes works if cerenia doesn't.

    You are doing a great job helping Morton. I will be around for the next 7 hours as I live in Australia. So anytime you need to ask anything I will be here.:bighug:
     
  14. Margie and Jackson

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    Please continue to ask questions if you need to, people here can help you with almost any problem. I’m so sorry, this sounds just horrible, but we’ve seen a lot of cats recover from the brink on this site.
     
  15. Aliciakuy

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    I have honey but I am unsure if I give too much it can harm his bg levels. Of all the knowledge of cats (I fostered them for forever even neonates) I have learned nothing about diabetes... the vet tech I work with (and by the way she completely called his diagnosis saturday. She said low potassium and diabetes issues bet me on it and she tested and there it was) said: "Don't buy a human meter. The alphatraks are more accurate for cats fyi. We probably have a donated one you can use."

    So I fed him at 930.. he needs his cyclosporine 2 hrs later and then wait an hr after to get any food..maybe I could give him some honey? The next feeding i can do is midnight to keep food away from the ITP med
     
  16. Aliciakuy

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    Is there a way I can easier talk to you guys? I dont want to be a bother but this cat is literally my soul mate I fostered him at 4 weeks with his litter. He was always underdeveloped and mentally slow and i decided to keep him because he was such a weird little guy and then he developed ITP a month later after he was neutered and up to be adopted. His brother died at 5 months I'm not sure from what but he was very ill
     
  17. Aliciakuy

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    How much food per feeding in mls? I believe he got 60 mls today of high calorie wet food
     
  18. Margie and Jackson

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    Bron is one of our experts and you have her attention, maybe try dm?
     
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    I sent a DM. That is good to know this site has helped other cats here.. he definitely crashes and recovers but I just have no experience with this so it's so stressful and hard
     
  20. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Alicia I promise you you are not bothering us. We are happy to help.
    I have to just go out and pick up kids from school but I’ll be back soon.
    You are wonderful to care for him.
    If you have to feed him around his other meds then do that. Just try and get as much food in him as he will tolerate. 10 to 15 mls at a time is fine. What are you feeding him ? High calorie food is good
     
  21. Aliciakuy

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    Thank you. I am feeding royal canin a/d not sure what a/d means but we give it to sick skinny kitties at work. It is 200 something calories per 5 oz can. The tech said he has had a lot of food today he is a very small boy just 8lbs if he is eating a lot. So I'll feed him about 10mls at midnight since I gave him lantus at 930 and then maybe one more time around 3am? Should I feed again? He is getting dropped off at 9 to the clinic so they can feed him check bg and do lantus and put him back on his IV. He still has his catheter in right now

    Thank you so much. Although I have a loving husband who's life is also our cats I feel very alone because I know nothing about diabetes and neither does he. I know much more than him animal health wise being around a cat clinic every day
     
  22. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    The a/d food is good for this situation. Feeding at 12 and around 3am is good, but I think I would feed again at around 6am.
    It is always overwhelming for everyone at the beginning of a diabetic diagnosis.

    We have lots of information on this forum. If you read the yellow sticky’s at the top of the different pages and click on the FAQ page you will be able to read a lot about feline diabetes.
     
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  23. Aliciakuy

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    It's not even He has diabetes what do I do it's He has DKA what the **** is happening. I will try my best. I'll have my husband do that feeding early morning.
     
  24. Aliciakuy

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    I think the big issue is since I met him he has had a horrible appetite and very hard to get to eat. When he was eating fine I usually had to shake his bowl about 5 times during his feeding because he would walk away and get distracted but if shook the bowl he would kind of go OH. OK. and eat more. Sometimes he only would want to eat out of my han . Other times only 1 tbsp of food could be in the bowl or he woildnt eat his dry
     
  25. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I know is scary when our fur babies are so sick. But it sounds as if your vet is good. Just give Morton loads of love and remember that the food and insulin are really important in his recovery
     
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  26. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I know it is super hard when they won’t eat
     
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    Do you know why he would have bilirubin in his urine? They said his liver enzymes were elevated I'm not sure if this can harm the liver or if it can recover... just so many things red flags for me. I gave him his cyclosporine and gave him 2mls of sweet potato baby food with it and he did not refuse it he really likes sweet potato. I hope it's safe to give him for diabetes.
     
  29. Ann & Scatcats

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    My Simba had 5,5 in direct blood b-ketones once and severe DKA. The direct blood b-ketones are fast measured with Abbott's direct Blood b-ketone meter. Simba got a brand new one for free directly sent to him by Abbott Inc. Our human-anbulances uses it too due to all human diabetics, always checking for bg when they come and the blood b-ketones That helped a lot for me to always stay on the top alert at home.

    They did a great job at our Animal Hospital to save my Simba out of his DKA, since besides his 5,5 in direct blood b-ketones and super low pottassium, his blood PH was tipped over the end, and that is a very bad sign since that tipps the CO2/O2 levels too. But with that real staying on top of it real Intensive Care he got, they turned it around. They put him on tube feeding too, started with 25 % of the daily intake the first day, increased to 50 % of the daily intake the second day, increased to 75 % of the daily intake the third day and then 100 % of the daily intake the fourth day and the days after that.

    He had pancreatitis too at the same time, and spent 2 weeks in the Animal Hospital's Intensive Care. It was awful but he came back home to me and his Gustav.
    First thing I did after that was contact Abbott direct asking for their direct blood b-ketone meter and they sent a brand new one to Simba for free, so it never happened to him again.


    With too low pottassium, I can try explain a bit what happens, since I myself since 2012 suffer from permanent severe hypo-pottassium and needing constant 2 x 750 mg pottassium a day supply of pottassium tablets. The human blood range for pottassium is between 3,8 - 4,6.
    I get muscle paralysations already at 3,8, and at 3,6 I am very bad, all body paralysations, nauseous, and get direct heart problems and ireggularities on heart-ECG's. At 3 it is critical for me and by 2,2 in so low pottassium I have already, besides almost total body paralysation, gone into bad blood pressure, weak puls, cardiac arrest and become unconsious.
    My sensitivity for too low pottassium have increased and too low pottassium also affects the heart muscles cells. Once filled up with pottassium and sodium to normal levels, the paralysations goes back, and I am extremely groggy for days, but not without an enormous pain and body fatigueness for a long long time and tiredness. However I become stronger and stronger for every day though but it takes a good while.

    It is similar to what happens when too low pottassium in diabetes-DKA. But once stabilised there is very good hope.

    I hope Morton can fight this and gets through this and comes back to his Mama.
     
  30. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    At this point let him eat whatever he likes. Even if it's high carb. The main thing is he gets food into him.
    I can't answer the bilirubin question I'm sorry. I'll tag @Marje and Gracie as she is a whizz with lab results. If you have any other results you can post that may help as well.
    If Morton is still as unwell tomorrow evening, is there a 24 hour place you could send him to?
    Kitties with DKA really need around the clock care for a few days.
     
  31. Jill & Alex (GA)

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    If kitty is definitely in DKA, they should be treating with Regular insulin (Humulin R or Novolin R, same insulin, different brands). Once the BG gets down to around 250 mg/dL, they normally add glucose to the fluids to prevent kitty from dropping too low. Ideally, kitty should be in a 24- hour care facility.

    If your vet is receptive, here are some links you can give them which explain the typical treatment plan for DKA kitties:
    Yes! The important thing is to get food into him --- whatever he'll eat. It may be necessary to syringe feed:
    Syringe/Assisted Feeding (Video and Tips).

    Food, fluids/extra water, an adequate supply of insulin, and treating any underlying conditions will help!
    I don't know why the liver involvement. When my cat, Alex experienced severe liver disease at the same time as an acute renal crisis, several ultrasounds were performed as part of the diagnostic testing performed. The illness/disease knocked her out of remission at the time. They might want to do an ultrasound to see what's going on. With treatment, Alex recovered from the renal and liver crisis. However, I lost her several years later to an unrelated illness --- oral cancer.

    I tried to keep track of all that was happening on her 2011 spreadsheet (link in my signature). However, she was not in DKA at the time. Liver meds are listed in the 'Remarks' section of her spreadsheet. Perhaps you'll find some of the info helpful.

    Keep posting, There are many of us whose kitties have been in DKA and survived with intensive treatment.

    Wishing you the best.


    Edited to add:
    If your vet belongs to the Veterinary Information Network (VIN), they should have access to Dr. Rhett Marshall's (Australia) protocol to treat kitties in DKA with Lantus (glargine) via IM and IV therapy.
     
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    Reason for edit: self-explanatory
  32. Marje and Gracie

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    First, talk to the vets tomorrow about them giving him R insulin. Lantus can’t pull down high numbers and it takes a few days to get the depot filled but R can pull the BG down much faster if they know how to use it effectively.

    If he’s not eating enough, you might talk to the vet about a temporary feeding tube. It’s not uncommon with DKA cats.

    Bilirubin in the urine is indicative of liver issues which you already know exist. His serum bilirubin levels are probably high, too, as well as his ALT and possibly ALP and GGT. Liver enzyme levels can be high due to a lot of different things including hepatic lipidosis, cholangiohepatitis, triaditis, gall bladder inflammation, bile duct obstruction. Your vet will likely need to do an ultrasound to see how his liver, pancreas, bile duct, and gallbladder look. Ask about putting him on milk thistle which is great liver support.

    ITP is rare in cats but has been shown to have a correlation to viral infections. The cyclosporine is for the ITP, I’m assuming. You should know that cyclosporine can cause liver damage.

    I hope he will turn the corner. If he were mine, I’d think about a 24 hour specialty clinic where he can stay and get round the clock treatment.

    Edited to add: are the whites of his eyes or inside his ears jaundiced? Often, if you are seeing bilirubin in the urine, you might expect to see jaundice.

    :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  33. Aliciakuy

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    A 24 hr place would be thousands upon thousands of dollars and I don't think I can do that. And the cyclosporine if he isn't on it then his platelets will go back to 5k. I am just so lost at what to do. I have milk thistle
     
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    I did not know it was possible to get out of liver disease. I will call my emergency vet but I'm also worried bringing him there they have all kinds of infectious diseases there and his immune system is barely there as is.
     
  35. Marje and Gracie

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    Prednisilone can be used to treat ITP. He’s already diabetic so then, as with other kitties on this site that need steroids, we work the dose around the steroid. You can ask the vet.

    And yes, the liver has great potential for healing once you find the cause of the insult.

    Has he been tested for feline leukemia?

    Are you aware of Care Credit that might be able to help with vet costs?
     
  36. Aliciakuy

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    He has been on pred all of his life. He tested negative once
     
  37. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Hi Alicia, how is Morton going now?

    Everyone understands that the 24 hour ER is expensive and you may not be able to afford it....a lot of people here on the board do not have much money to spare. Jill, Marj and I suggested the 24 hour ER as it is the best place for Morton to be, but if you are unable to do that, then have a look at what Jill and Marj suggested re treatment and discuss it with your vet who you said would listen to suggestions.

    There is also Diabetic cats in need who help people with diabetic cats. @Chris & China (GA) could help with that, and Marj mentioned Care Credit.
    Both Jill and Marj have added some very good information at the end of their posts which you might not have seen.

    Once Morton comes home from hospital we can help you with the recovery period.
     
  38. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    I just want to add a bit of possible comfort, my cat Alice was emaciated, less than 2kg, went into DKA and was hospitalized for about 3 days and I worked really hard to nurse her afterwards, and it’s only been 4 months since but she is already weight-restored and squishy and happy and has more energy than she used to.
    You have been given some really great info by some of the best people here to give it, and this board helped me save my cat’s life.

    It’s really terrifying at first, at least it was for me. Now I have gained experience and it has gotten easier. I will be thinking of you and Morton and hoping he starts to show greater improvement soon. Alice couldn’t walk into the litter box really at first and was weak like what you described, it broke my heart to watch. Then it got better over time and with food and fluids and antibiotics and tests and insulin and hard work. It sounds like Morton has a lot of fight in him, he’s been dealing with a lot and he is still going. I recommend prioritizing getting sleep when you can as often as possible while he is at the vet more, because when he is home you may not get as much for awhile.

    Hugs! :bighug:
     
  39. Aliciakuy

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    Thank you. I worry with him though that this is different because his liver is being funky right now and hes less than 2 years old. He is getting IV insulin today. The lantus is not lowering his bg so they are trying IV insulin and are going to check his bg every 3 hrs today
     
  40. Aliciakuy

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    He so just feels like jello. He is so squishy with fluids but so bony it makes me not want to pick him up I feel so bad
     
  41. Aliciakuy

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    They are doing IM lantus but be is really worried about sodium and phosphates still being very low. They are changing his IV bag fluid so something different but I'm not sure why they would still be so low
     
  42. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Please let us know how he goes during the day.
    Were you able to show the vet the information that Jill sent you ?
     
  43. Aliciakuy

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    His bg went from 400 to 350 in 4 hours with IM lantus. He is more worried about his sodium and phosphates being so low. He doesnt want to correct the bg too fast.. I worry taking him to critical care I won't get updated enough or they wont give him his ITP meds properly away from food and he could catch something there because of his immune syste . All of them at my work wash their hands before handling. There are places my boss recommends me go but I've read reviews and they're all very mixed. There is a place called summit emergency vet in Tacoma he went there to get insight about his ITP and it was a good experience but I havent been to the emergency side of it
     
  44. Aliciakuy

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    His response "
    To answer your question about R - insulin online research recommendation vs Lantus. The R insulin model is certainly old-school, classic recommended for DKA mgt in small animal (dogs and cats) critical care and emergency medicine. It is the way I did things for many, many years.

    However, in my years working with cats, in my hands, I have found it unnecessarily troublesome and I prefer not to use it. Even tiny doses of R drops the blood sugar very, very fast, and in my opinion, the blood sugar getting down to normal range - faster - does not equate to them feeling better faster or a better outcome. In fact - it is a higher risk in my view. "
     
  45. Aliciakuy

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    Still no fever. Since 9am his bg has gone from 400 to 350 to 250. It took 4 hours to drop from 400 to 350 and now 7 hrs later it dropped another 100 from the IM lantus
     
  46. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Thank you Alicia for keeping us updated on Morton's progress.
    Is he showing any interest in food at all?
    That's good his temp has stayed down.
    I can't comment on the R insulin because I have had no experience using it. @Jill & Alex (GA) and @Marje and Gracie are experienced with it.
     
  47. Aliciakuy

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    No.. no food at all
     
  48. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Some DKA cats need a feeding tube to get them over the initial not being able to eat stage. It’s very common that they won’t eat. Has your vet suggested it?
     
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    They havent suggested it as he takes force feedings well and is not vomiting. He is only 7lbs healthily so he doesnt need as much food as a normal bigger kitty
     
  50. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    That’s good if he takes the force feedings well.
     
  51. Aliciakuy

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    Well he is tired of them and absolutely doesnt want to be touched because he thinks something is going to be shoved in his face... he doesnt vomit them but is really sad about getting them. But switching up the syringe food helps him from fighting as much. I just wish I knew why he hasnt eaten
     
  52. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I'm sure he is tired of people force feeding him. It’s hard, but very important to get food into him. Kitties with DKA rarely eat on their own because they feel so nauseated and unwell. That’s why he won’t eat. It will take time but he will start eating again. In the meantime he will have to be force fed or tube fed.
    When @AliceMeowliss&Cassandra first brought home Alice she was still very weak and Cassandra did an amazing job nursing Alice back to health.
    I'm sure it is a comfort to you knowing that the people looking after him know and love him too..
     
  53. Aliciakuy

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    How much time on average. Weeks? I just want to know if he is going in the right direction. He has been critically ill for 4 days now. Just so tired. Cant get comfortable and just hunched and not lying dow . You can tell he wants to plop over and sleep but kind of sleeps with face down. I wish you guys were close I'd pay you to help. Anything you wanted
     
  54. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Every cat is different so there is no hard and fast timeframe as to when they will start eating again. You just have to take one day at a time.
    Do you know if they are testing for ketones each day?

    There are a few things you can do to help for when he comes home.
    Set up your signature and tell us all about Morton. The signature will appear below all your posts and will save people having to ask you tand he same questions every time. It's easy. Here is the link
    http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/editing-your-signature-profile-and-preferences.130340/

    The second thing is setting up Mortons spreadsheet so you can put in all his BG numbers.
    Here is the link. If you have any trouble, yell and someone will help you
    http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/fdmb-spreadsheet-instructions.130337/

    The third thing is pick up a bottle of Ketostix from a pharmacy or Walmart so you can test Mortons urimeurineurine when he gets home. It is very important to monitor the ketones to see they are not increasing but decreasing, and if they have gone, they don't reappear during the recovery period.

    Then closer to when he comes home buy a variety of low carb canned foods for him to try. He may be choosy with what he wants to eat and may not want to eat anything he has been force fed with.
    Here is a link to a food list with low carb foods
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...fEUz9YmzMGMxkmcBk6uRR0/htmlview#gid=113878384

    And here is a link to ideas to stimulate appetite when he is ready to try and eat.
    http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/suggestions-on-how-to-stimulate-kittys-appetite.130770/
     
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    "

    The most concerning thing is that his white blood cells are headed downward, and the pathologist saw rod shaped bacteria in many of the white blood cells. They used the term relative neutropenia - and this is a pretty scary thing to have."
     
  56. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Neutropenia is an abnormally low number of neutrophils... a type of white blood cell. @Marje and Gracie may be able to tell
    you more. What does your vet say about it?
     
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    He is very very concerned
     
  58. Jill & Alex (GA)

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    I'm just catching up... it sounds like there is so much more going on with Morton than "just" DKA. Maybe it would help to get a second opinion or consult an Internist or specialist?
    Sigh... it sounds like the vet is not comfortable using R. Unfortunately, if a vet does not know how to use R effectively, it's use does put the cat at higher risk.

    Just my thoughts and opinion... I hesitate to say too much because there are multiple issues/complications going on here... much more than with a typical cat in DKA. We're not vets, nor do we have the training or expertise we expect from our vets. We don't have full access to Morton's history, labs, and daily condition. It couldn't hurt to bring in an Internist or specialist. Given how concerned your vet is, he may welcome some input.

    I feel for you. You have a lot on your plate.

    :bighug: :bighug: :bighug:
     
  59. Aliciakuy

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    I feel like he might die tonight. he went to the litter box and peed and pooped without me knowing then I heard him fall after and he just lied there limp eyes open. I put him in his window spot now but I really dont think he will make it. I drug him out of the box and held him for about 10 mins
     
  60. Jill & Alex (GA)

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    Please take him to an ER. Let them assess his condition.

    Have you applied for Care Credit - A credit card company for health care, including veterinary care. "Care Credit, the leader in patient/client financing, has helped more than 3 million patients/clients get the treatment or procedures they needed and wanted. With a comprehensive range of plan options, for treatment or procedure fees from $1 to over $25,000, we offer a plan and a low monthly payment to fit comfortably into almost every budget."
    http://www.carecredit.com/vetmed/

    Here's a list of financial aid resources:
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  61. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I agree with Jill. I would take him to the ER if he were mine.
     
  62. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    When Alice was critical she could hardly stand, in fact the first poop she tried to have in the hospital she fell over for and she only was able to push out half of it. She could barely walk half a foot to the box, and when I brought her home she could not climb over the sides into regular boxes for awhile.

    But I have to say I agree, if he is critical, it may be best to go to an emergency vet. Call them first and let them know you are concerned about his immune system, and make sure you can be back with him. Pack a bag of supplies. You can literally save money by bringing your own syringes or insulin or food or other supplies. You can label everything with a sharpie. You can make a schedule of his ITP related stuff and other instructions, if you’d like.

    You asked previously.... how long is recovery.... and it’s true every cat is different. But you should expect days or weeks of care. Even if it was only the DKA, it could take a few weeks for him to build back up to something closer to normal. Not all that care will be this hard, slowly it gets easier through time and recovery.

    But right now we just want to get him out of crisis.

    I will be looking for your updates and hoping he makes it through the night for you, whatever you decide to do for his care!
     
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    I just caught up as well and I’m so very sorry he’s doing so poorly.

    Neutropenia can be caused by different things or it can be idiopathic meaning there is no specific cause. One thing that does come up is feline leukemia as a potential cause.

    However, as Jill said, we aren’t vets and we aren’t there and, IMHO, instead of just telling you that he has neutropenia and it’s bad, they need to also been trying to figure out why he has it now. Some cases can be resolved. I would push for answers and not just “he has this”. Also....is he anemic? Anemia can really cause weakness as can the potassium being off. It “could” be a reason why he might fall over in the litter box.

    Thinking of you all and sending tons of healing light.
     
  65. Aliciakuy

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    So... he was very alert last night wanting to do a lot of things. More alert than I've seen him since he got sick. He wanted in the cat tunnel but fell getting up. He wanted on the cat tree. His potassium was less than 2....that's why he was paralyzed... the IM lantus is what is dropping it. Its finally moving his bg but dropping potassium too. They doubled his dose of potassium he has it in an IV and was on 2 tumil k pills a day so idk what one they doubled. It is just so sad because I saw in his eyes he wanted to move around and do things finally but almost was completely paralyzed
     
  66. Aliciakuy

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    I thought he was dying because he couldnt move from the potassium level
     
  67. Aliciakuy

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    He is just so hard to force feed now he kicks and moves and then he is breathing fast because he is so worn out from fighting it... it's so sad.

    The neutropenia they said he was almost septic from monday from whatever infection he had. They advised completely getting off his ITP meds but if he does his platelets will crash but they want to give his immune system every chance it can get with the metronidazole and zeniquin
     
  68. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    The fact that he wants to do things sounds like a good sign to me though!!! He has life left in him. He is not ready to give up! :)

    I hope they can get his potassium sorted out. Everything you are saying sounds to me like he may be fine if he can just get the right veterinary care. Best wishes for you both.

    Edit to add, saw your additional post while I was writing this one..... the fact he is getting upset about the force feedings now, and stressed by them, maybe a feeding tube would be worth it just for a little while, to get him back on his feet? Others can weigh in on this.
     
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  69. Aliciakuy

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    I think the issue right now is they havent found the right cocktail.. insulin IM seems to be helping a little but its throwing his potassium off. Doc said his electrolytes are screwed up still too his sodium is way low. Just so sad.. he does he kept looking up at the cat tree and you could tell he was trying to find strength to get up and once he sat up he fell back down so he just lied there. And he kept looking over in his cat tunnel and finally got up and stumbled into it half way out.
     
  70. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    Also, I know that must have been so scary for you! When I was rushing Alice to the ER for DKA, I thought she would die in the car. I kept yelling her name and poking her paw, she was sticking out her tongue really far, she was nearly gone it seemed like and I was a wreck.

    No matter what happens you are doing everything you can to take care of him. That matters so very much. You are fighting the good fight. I hope that brings some comfort.
     
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  71. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    Hugs. Poor baby. It must be breaking your heart. I was treating Alice with insulin that did not last long enough, watching her body starve from the inside out, feeling so desperate.... I really believe the magic cocktail is out there for him, and you’re such a good kitty mama for sticking this through. You know how many people would walk away, let him go, and never even give him a chance.

    Someone told me feline diabetes is a marathon, not a sprint, and that seems applicable to everything else going on with him, too.

    My advice to you is to focus on self-care when he is not at home with you, because you can do this and take care of him, but you will need your rest and your sanity to keep on keeping on.
     
  72. Red & Rover (GA)

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    Your cat needs to be seen immediately by an Internal Medicine specialist. There are too many issues going on.
     
  73. Sandi & Whisper

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    I believe that a feeding tube would help in several ways. 1) The additional strength that he would get from the food. 2) The strength that he would save by not fighting the feedings. 3) The ability to give more insulin because he is eating. 4) Easier ability to give additional medications.

    A feeding tube sounds scary, and can sound and feel like it is just the "Beginning of the End", but that is really not the case. It can truly be life saving. And sanity saving, for you and for him.

    I agree, an Internal Medicine specialist if available, or just a second opinion of another vet if not, sounds critical at this point.
     
  74. Aliciakuy

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    I'm transfering him to a 24 he care my boss trusts and says as much as he wants to help him he physically cant not being 24 hrs he needs every minute spent on him that he just cant do. I feel like I'm the one who is dying. His potassium didn't even read this morning. I'm so desperate I'm asking my fans for money and my facebook friends. I'm an entertainer and I've stopped so low to beg them to help with mortons emergency care cost
     
  75. Jill & Alex (GA)

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    I'm so happy to hear Morton will be receiving round the clock care. I know it's difficult on so many levels, but given all the issues, it's best.
    Try to get some rest. You must be exhausted both physically and emotionally.
    Try not to look at it as 'stooping low'. You're just doing whatever you have to do to help the little guy.

    I don't know if you saw the list of financial aid links I posted earlier: Financial Help Links. Don't leave any stone un-turned. You never know where some help may be available.

    We don't allow fundraisers posted on the board without prior approval from our board administrator, Robert and Echo. However, you can always send him a private message to ask permission if you decide to go that route.

    Sending white light and positive thoughts...

    :bighug: :bighug: :bighug: :bighug: :bighug:
     
  76. Nan & Amber

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    I couldn't agree more. Besides, you are an entertainer who has no doubt provided your fans with a great deal of joy during your career. They'll likely be grateful for an opportunity to give some of that joy back to you in a meaningful way by helping your beloved Morton.

    I hope he's feeling better soon-- please do try to get some rest for yourself while you can. You are a fantastic caregiver!
     
  77. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    Agreeing with others, it’s not stooping to anything. If you had a human child with cancer you’d be fundraising your butt off if you had to, and no one would think that as wrong! Plus it’s your fans’ own choice to donate or not.

    I’m glad he will be getting 24 hour care and I really support the idea of looking into a feeding tube. I’ve seen what happens when a cat gets enough food and fluids, they can bounce back so fast!!!!! Cats have amazing healing abilities with the right treatment, in so many situations.

    I hope you are able to get a bit of rest.
     
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  78. Sandi & Whisper

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    Thinking about you and Morton this morning, hoping that all went well at the 24 hour vet last night, and that you got some restorative sleep knowing that he was being well taken care of :bighug:
     
  79. Aliciakuy

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    I messaged the person you guys suggested to ask about potential financial advice/help.

    He got diagnosed with pancreatitis today. He is a little less acidic today which is the okay news. So less septic. He can NEVER be on cyclosporine again and that is a shame because it controlled his ITP perfectly. With my fans I've raised 535 dollars alread . I charged 3300 on my credit card last night when I dropped him off and my husband got approved for a care credit card of 5k limit.
    Morton has a feeding tube, central line so no more pokes for fluids and blood draws they do it all through the ports. His liver is being damaged from the pancreatitis so it's not a liver issue alone. I dont know what to think
     
  80. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Alicia I am so glad to hear from you and hear Morton is in 24 hour care. Pancreatitis is very treatable with the correct care and it sounds as if he will be more comfortable with the feeding tube and central line in.
    Please keep us posted as to his progress.
    Sending prayers for a full recovery and hugs to you. You are a great mom and so good your husband is so supportive
     
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    In all the research I’ve done on pancreatitis, I have not found that it “damages” the liver. What can happen is that some of the hepatic cells might be impacted and perhaps that’s what you mean. But, once the pancreatitis is resolved, the liver cells can regenerate and the liver values can come back down to normal. I’m glad they have gotten closer to a diagnosis and that you elected a feeding tube. If you bring him home with a feeding tube, you might want to consider getting a Kitty Kollar. I know it’s one more expense but, from other members who have used them, it’s really a worthwhile one. We’ve had cats here pull their tubes out or loose and the Kitty Kollar prevents that.

    More vines and healing light for Morton. I know you are worried about leaving the cyclosporine behind but I’ve had to use that drug before, too, and it’s not something I’d ever use lightly. I know you didn’t either but with the impact it has had on his liver, it’s probably best.
     
  83. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    @Aliciakuy you have so many people pulling for Morton now, all over the world. Please keep us updated and get some rest while he has this level of care. A tube is going to take so much stress off of him right now, and pancreatitis is treatable so this is good news. I hope your little baby is back to his old self soon, and thank you for caring about him enough to work so hard. :bighug:
     
  84. Jill & Alex (GA)

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    Thinking nothing but positive thoughts for Morton and your family!
    Take care and stay in touch. Once you have him home, let us know how/if we can help.

    :bighug: :bighug: :bighug:
     
  85. Aliciakuy

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    Small win tonight:
    The night staff told us when we got here he walked earlier...how?? I didn't believe them until they asked about his tail... so since I found him at 4 weeks when he was happy and playful his stick straight baby tail would line up with his spine touching the back of his head. To this day I call his name and you can see his tail becoming erect! :p just the fact they asked what was wrong with his tail and if it was normal made me so happy.... they said most animals would have given up by now but he had a good little evening I wish I could have seen it. They also said he reacted happy to butt scratches and he does love them! They said he tried to drink some water and he hasnt tried to in almost a week... one concerning thing is his BG still is crazy high..they got it under 300 but man why the heck wont it stay down :( he was just getting done with a tube feeding when we arrived and he was facing the wall but I know he knew I was there and the million back kisses i gave him. I saw his head raise when I put my shirt in there and he sniffed it. I was talking to him and saw his ears moving. He fell asleep soon after very twitchy but in sure with all the crap shoved into him that's normal. I'm just glad he finally is sleeping. He hasnt in days.. he could be worse tomorrow but going back there and seeing the staff and getting a little positive update despite this horrible situation I'm happy he had a happy moment with them
     

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  86. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Alicia, it so good to get a positive update on Morton.
    I'm sure he is much more comfortable being tube fed and not being poked all the time.
    He would have been very happy to see you and it sounds as if the staff there are lovely.
     
  87. Aliciakuy

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    I just wish they could have taken a picture of it when he was walking! And like I said seeing him how I did just sleeping deeply I wouldnt have believed they said he was walking earlier but them bringing up his weird tail confirmed it :)
     
  88. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Deep sleep is healing.
     
  89. Aliciakuy

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    I'm happy he can sleep. I'm sure he was in severe pain and hopefully he is high and comfy. He's on pain meds of course.
     
  90. Jill & Alex (GA)

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    What a pleasant report...
    I hope Morton improves every day!
     
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    The impending doom I feel is his ITP that was well controlled on cyclosporine he cannot have anymore and stopped yesterday. It's only a matter of days now before his platelets diminish and he gets covered in petichae. his current state of health is awful yes and it CAN be treated but when you stack ITP on it it's hard to have hope.

    It did feel good not to cry seeing him though. I've been crying all day every day. I think I'm just so proud of him that the tears didnt flow. I felt happy seeing him even though he didnt respond to me or turn around or anything. Something in me was happy for him
     
  92. Jill & Alex (GA)

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    Take the "wins" when you can get them!
    I don't know what's going to happen when all is said and done, but right now I'm thrilled and am very happy for you. You just never know. Cats are such resilient creatures. I know because Alex ended up with more than 9 lives. She surprised us all. Hoping the same for Morton!
     
  93. Marje and Gracie

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    It’s really unfortunate your vet doesn’t understand how to use R either with or without the Lantus. We use it here successfully...and have been doing so....for a variety of reasons and it’s really a great thing to have in your toolbox; especially if a kitty is DKA Prone or high dose.

    There can be reasons why the BG won’t stay down such as he needs more insulin. Because Lantus can’t pull high numbers down quickly and the depot has to fill, it can take six or more cycles to see a result. It’s also possible, depending on when and how often they are testing him, that he’s bouncing and they are only catching the highs. If you can get the BGs they have and when they were taken in relation to the insulin given (we report it in number of hours since last insulin shot), we might be able to give you some thoughts.

    There are other treatments available for ITP instead of cyclosporine. It’s really helpful to know the etiology for him (what’s the potential source....some other condition, immune related, idiopathic). If it were me, I’d ask my vet to consult the veteri wry information network (VIN) to see how others are treating it successfully. There’s always hope.

    More vines and white light!!!
     
  94. Sandi & Whisper

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    Wasn't that the original vet/boss that didn't like R, @Aliciakuy ? I would be really surprised if the 24 hour vet didn't use R (?)
     
  95. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    I am so glad to see the positive reports since I last checked in! That feeding tube sounds like it has made a huge difference for him. It sounds like he is fighting so hard.

    Watching Alice walk again was miraculous for me, as well. And now she runs and plays and does all the things again. Cats can really be resilient when they are given the right chance.

    I hope for Morton’s continued improvement. :)
     
  96. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    Has there been an update for Morton? Thinking of him.
     
  97. Ann & Scatcats

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    How is baby Morton?
     
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    Hi everyone so sorry. I didn't get any email alerts like I usually do and have been distracted. My husband sent this to me this morning

    "Mcchord called. He thinks morton can come home tomorrow. He says his numbers are good and theyre going to be weening him off everytbing today. Hes been eating a bit on his own. Hes still sleepy and bummed but he even said "its unclear if hes even diabetic anymore because his BG is normal." That doesnt mean things wont flip though. But theyre managing the infections and hes on purely oral supplements right now. He said he wanted to keep him another day for observation. Also his platelettes are 700k some how? He doesnt know. He doesnt want him on any immune meds and wants his blood checked in like a week."

    His platelets is the thing I'm always the most worried about. How can someone with ITP have very high platelets randomly? Just strange. I feel like that will bite him soon but just have to see. He is sucha mystery boy.

    I wanted to tell you guys that last night he was meowing and purring SO loud. So so happy we were there. I'm sure hes not eating much there because hes super bummed and also at home he only will eat out of his special bowl with his favorite food all while I'm stoking his tail and he's by his brother! If you want to look at his very very cute instagram story you can at instagram.com/catxmama
    It was so adorable seeing him last night. He kept pulling my hand back to kiss it . He was acting 100 percent normal even grooming himself.
     
  99. Nan & Amber

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    What a fantastic update on Morton!!!

    I'm sure you're right, once he's home he's going to start eating normally, he'll be so happy to be back. It sounds like he's well on the way to recovery already-- hooray!!!!!
     
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    I am glad that baby Morton seem to do better and hope he continues to improve becoming all well again.
    It must have been wonderful to cuddle with him again and getting his love kisses. I hope he becomes all well and stay well afterwards too.
     
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