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Discussion in 'Feline Health - (The Main Forum)' started by Stacy n kendra, Jan 24, 2018.

  1. Stacy n kendra

    Stacy n kendra Member

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    My vet really didn't tell me much she basically said feed her shoot her if she only eats half give half dose n if I want to check her glucose i can. Well that's not helpful so numbers really high n really low are bad. I see some don't give insulin when really high i thought u really do then ugh I'm on 3dose 2x upped it yesterday via vet.I'm gonna get the ss soon just maybe a quick lesson since I don't think I've gotten one ty

    My baby is a12 year old bengal she has had ibd since Feb 2017 she eats royal canine rp wet medications are ursodiol 2x budesonaide 1x metronidazole
    2x cobalequin 1x proviable-dc 1x denamarin 1x 1\4tablet mirtazapine every other day her weight was last 12.3 n u can call me Stacy lol oh she takes lantus insulin e 2dose 2x n I use pet meter
     
  2. Sean & Rufus

    Sean & Rufus Well-Known Member

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    The vet said if she only eats half of her food, to only give half a dose?
     
  3. Stacy n kendra

    Stacy n kendra Member

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  4. Chris & China

    Chris & China Well-Known Member

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    No....one of the nice things about Lantus is they don't need to eat a certain amount of food before shooting.

    The "onset" isn't for usually 2-3 hours after the shot, so as long as they're willing to eat (and able to keep it down) that's the important part

    With some of the older, harsher insulins, it was important that they eat a normal meal before shooting, but the gentler action of Lantus along with the delayed onset of action means it's not as important.

    Lantus does best when given at the same dose every 12 hours. Changing the dose can cause the depot to be wonky and not give the best results
     
  5. Stacy n kendra

    Stacy n kendra Member

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    So I should just every 12 ish hours depending on my work schedule even if she didn't eat her half of can
     
  6. Sean & Rufus

    Sean & Rufus Well-Known Member

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    That's not right. If her current dose is 2 units then she needs 2 units. As long as she eats at least a tablespoon before the insulin, she'll be ok.
     
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  7. Chris & China

    Chris & China Well-Known Member

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    It will help us to help you if you'll start recording your test numbers on our spreadsheet, but yes....as long as she's willing to eat, you usually have 2-3 hours before the shot "kicks in" and starts to work, so if your kitty is more of a grazer, as long as they're not sick, it's usually OK to go ahead and shoot.

    You can also leave food down for later. It's actually easier on the pancreas to deal with multiple small meals instead of 2 big ones.

    A lot of people use an auto-feeder that they can program to open and offer small meals throughout the day or you can make your own "food-sicles" by adding water to canned food, putting it into something like an ice cube tray and freezing.

    Most cats won't eat what they can't smell (and frozen food usually doesn't smell). By leaving down some frozen, it will offer a "fresh" meal later on after it defrosts.

    Of course we've seen some cats that will just crunch their way right through it...frozen and all!! It's something you just have to try and see what happens!

    Here are Instructions on getting the FDMB spreadsheet
     
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  8. Stacy n kendra

    Stacy n kendra Member

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    Ok good someone here is gonna help me w the spread sheet i should get it soon i have had difficulties w getting one even w the directions yes she is a grazer n just came off of feeding tube Mon was in hospital over night from not eating changed flavor in food n she is living it
     
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  9. Stacy n kendra

    Stacy n kendra Member

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    N sometimes I see check before u shoot ok but aren't u always gonna shoot unless it's really low on not no where near that today am 449 mid day 342
     
  10. Chris & China

    Chris & China Well-Known Member

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    I'd be happy to set it up for you. Takes me about 30 seconds.

    Just click on my name and choose "start conversation" to send me a private message so I can get some information from you
     
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  11. Squalliesmom

    Squalliesmom Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to FDMB, Stacy! Is your kitty's name Jovi? She's a beautiful Bengal. I have Bengals, also.

    Once Chris gets your spreadsheet set up, you'll find it's really pretty easy to work with, mostly just data entry, but it is really helpful. You'll be able to see how your girl reacts to insulin, and whether or not you need to change her dose, among other things. It also helps us to help you, if you have questions.

    I'm really glad you're already home testing, kudos for that! We always test before a shot, to make sure it's safe to give, and then we try to get some random tests in during the day (or night). This helps you find your cat's nadir, or lowest point, during a cycle, so you know how well the dose is working. It also helps keep kitty safe from hypoglycemia!
     
  12. Veronica & Babu-chiri

    Veronica & Babu-chiri Well-Known Member

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    Welcome and congratulations on testing and getting your spread sheet up!!! :)

    I know is a lot to take in (makes one's head spin ) but take a big breath and here's a link where you can start getting information on Lantus and how it works : http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...the-basics-new-to-the-group-start-here.18139/

    Here we use two protocols TR (tight) regulation or SLGS (start low go slow) this are the links where you can read about each one of them and afterwards decide which one suits you better, each protocol will give you general guides on what to do, when and dosing and you can keep asking here or in the Lantus forum as much as you want.

    TR (tight) regulation protocol

    SLGS (start low go slow)

    On the basics as they've already said Lantus requires consistency both in the dose you are giving (the idea is you need to keep the same dose morning and evening for at least a few cycles/days and then depending on your tests results adjust the dose) and the schedule ( you have to try and keep the same shooting time in the morning and in the evening as much as possible).
     

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