? Dosage advice - time sensitive - BG dropped overnight

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  1. shelaghc

    shelaghc Member

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    Jester dropped from PMPS 231 to AMPS 95.
    He was a bit off his feed, so to speak, only eating smal amounts of low carb foods all evening until I gave him medium carb stuff after 1:00AM.
    By then I was too tired to stay up two more hours for a pre-bed check.

    I'm not planning to give him a shot this morning.

    There was also some foamy clear vomit in two places presumably from Jester. Although with two cats, it can be difficult to be sure.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. shelaghc

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    Anyone?
    Bueller?

    Just did a +3 and Jester's BG is 124. That may or may not have been two hours after his last food.

    It's been a real struggle to get him to eat today and I think he may need some pepcid tonight. I just wish I'd actually seen which cat had thrown up.

    I *think* Jester has eaten about half a can total after about an hour or more of encouragement.
    With no responses at all, I simply didn't give him any insulin as the number seemed too low.

    Considering I just put him back on 1U two days ago, I'm not sure how good an idea that was, but I didn't want him to go even lower.
     
  3. Nan & Amber

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    Sorry no one got back to you earlier! I think it was a good call not to shoot today-- I'm glad he's started eating, that's a good sign.

    I've seen the foamy liquid a lot from my Amber. Cats seem to do it when they have an empty tummy and acid builds up, so sometimes an extra small meal in the overnight hours will help. I've never figured out if it was connected to the pancreatitis (when she gets a flare, she does a lot of vomiting in general), but that might be another thing to keep an eye out for with Jester.
     
  4. shelaghc

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    I was offering him food until right before bed - which was why I couldn't do a pre-bed BG.

    Just was startling for BG to go from 261 PMPS all the way down to 95 AMPS.
     
  5. Critter Mom

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    Chortle! :D


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  6. Critter Mom

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    As Nan says above, sometimes this may happen if a kitty fasts too long and stomach acid builds up in the tummy as a consequence. I've found that feeding regularly spaced mini meals helps with this (via timed feeder if necessary). Of course, success is contingent on the cat actually eating the food once it has been dispensed. :rolleyes:

    There's some useful advice here:

    Nausea, Vomiting, Stomach Acid, Appetite Problems - symptoms and treatments

    If you are giving an acid blocker, check the above site for the best time of day to administer it. (Note: ibdkitties.net raises concerns about long-term use of acid blockers.)



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  7. shelaghc

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    Even if I could afford such a thing, which I absolutely cannot, Jester doesn't sit in one place to eat. I generally have to wait for him to sit in various places in the dining room before I can set it down and wait for him to eat.

    Plus, I have two other cats, one who will eat out from under either of the boys.
     
  8. Nan & Amber

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    Do you mean you didn't want to test BG after he'd eaten? You don't have to keep a 2-hr no-food interval before all BG tests, just for AMPS and PMPS (this is often confusing at first).

    I'm not familiar enough with ProZinc's action to really say much about that drop, but I think it's a good sign that the insulin seems to be workin for Jester!

    Yep, it's pretty tough with multiple cats, unless the one cat you want to feed at timed intervals is the one in the habit of pushing the others out of the way! At least I don't think the foamy vomit is a major health problem in itself, it's just that it's a sign that he's a bit uncomfortable :( and, of course, that can lead to the kind of inappetence that you saw this morning. But hopefully it won't be a recurring thing for him.
     
  9. shelaghc

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    Outside of a curve, this is the first time I've known I could check Jester without waiting two hours after eating. I thought that was only if he went low and I'm trying to get his BG up to a better number.

    :::sigh::::
     
  10. Nan & Amber

    Nan & Amber Well-Known Member

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    Yep-- there are so many "rules" thrown at you when you first start, it's completely confusing!!!! Enjoy this all-too-rare instance of things getting easier!
     
  11. shelaghc

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    Does that include pre-bed testing?
     
  12. Chris & China

    Chris & China Well-Known Member

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    The only time it's important that the test be "without food" is the Pre-shot tests.....they shouldn't eat for the 2 hours immediately before test/feed/shot times

    Other than that, they should eat normally the rest of the time and just test whenever you want/need to
     
  13. shelaghc

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    And that's why I've had problems with the pre-bed tests.
    :banghead:

    Well, at least I know now.

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