Elmo +11...168

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  1. Beth 73

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    Good morning ....took BG and got 136....immediately retested and got 156..... now what ??? Feeding in 25 minutes....shoot or not in 45 minutes from time of posting..
     
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    Morning, Beth. :bighug:

    Just looking at Elmo's spreadsheet. BRB ...


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    Have you fed Elmo yet?

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    Morning Mogs...+4 last night was131....computer was glitchy last night
     
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    Yes
     
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    5 carb
     
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    Can you try letting out a bigger drop from the o.25 u dose? You'd have to follow up with monitoring and food steering if needed.
    OR you could skip this shot altogether to see how he does without insulin for today. Safest choice and I'd say he's OK wrt ketones because his BG has been low and you're able to test easily.

    You skipped on 12/12 PM with no adverse effects.
     
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    Can you test Elmo again BEFORE deciding whether to give any insulin to see whether the food is starting to raise his numbers at all?

    I'm concerned about the 136 test.

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    Testing now...15 minutes past 7/7 shoot schedule.... does drop of blood size matter as far as BG? Monitor immediately took reading but I'm always squeamish when I get two different readings ...wonder about blood drop size
     
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    BG 140 just now...45 minutes since started to eat...ate well...bit over usual 1.5 oz
     
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    If the meter reads successfully then you should be OK with the sample sizes, Beth.

    The variance between the two readings taken closely together (136 and 156) is within tolerance range. Actually it's possible to test the very same blood sample twice and get two different readings!

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    Ain't that dandy:rolleyes:
     
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    With that 140 and Vetsulin in use I would skip. (I always prefer to err on the side of caution).

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    Will do....protocol for day ? Ketone test .. encourage drinking to keep kidneys flushed ? Monitor BG when ?? I'm the question lady on only one cup of coffee this morning;):coffee:
     
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    In this type of situation you can see why +11 BG tests can be helpful - they can help give a better indication of whether BG is rising at time of PS test (though not 100% guaranteed).

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    Thank u, thank u, Kris :bighug::)
     
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    Thanks to you all encouraging me in that I will never not take the + 11 and then the +4 before bed at night...the more data the better the decision...
     
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    Ketone check. Assuming it's negative give Elmo his normal food and drink for the day (so we can see how he does on the daytime cycle without any insulin - helps to keep everything else as consistent as possible).

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    Assuming dose is skipped and all else is OK I suggest snagging tests at +2 and +4. Post the results so we can see how things are going. :)

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    I am tempted to approach people at my vets on the parking lot, like a drug dealer, and tell them to get on this Message Board....imagine the clients that use vetsulin and follow the MEAGER info given to them .....I shudder to think....sometimes when there I have spoken up in the waiting room but can tell most people are not confident enuf to do anything outside of what a doc says....if we had done that my mom might have died years ago....there is so much more to this world than flat earth allopathic medicine.........ok, off my soap box and done " preaching to the choir":rolleyes:o_O
     
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    Just checking in now. It looks like Elmo is on a mission Beth and it's a good mission! Very nice start to the day. I too will be watching to see what he does without insulin today!
     
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    Oh and btw, shot skipped....
     
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    Can feel you all right here with me...it's as if I've known you all all of my life...truly, deeply profound and blessing beyond compare....praying for all your fur babies, that whatever you and they need is provided:bighug:
     
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    Right on Beth! As a retired R.N. I can't tell you the number of times I have seen or had to deal with the ego of doctors and a vet or two who seemed to think patients/clients should just follow their instructions blindly like lambs to the slaughter. I really wish the general public would learn that humans are not perfect, medical professionals are humans... not perfect gods, book learning is only good if the patient reads the manual and follows it, and every organism on this planet has it's own individual idiosyncrasies. You're not the only one with a sbox.gif . ;)
     
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    Thank you for this; my Noodlekins needs a bit of help right now. She has had dodgy stools and diarrhoea for a couple of months at this stage. :(

    I've been s-l-o-w-l-y introducing yet another food over the last few days. If you could say a little prayer that this new food will help her I'd really appreciate it.

    (((Beth)))

    Needless to say, both you and Elmo are on my prayer list. :)


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    Linda, amen and amen !!! Have been so proud of my family as I have ventured into the holistic/homeopathic that at first they teased me but with time end up calling me...after all I am the first born and the oldest;)..... I personally believe in receiving info from all reputable, proven arenas ....I am not anti allopathic but pro homeopathic as well....marvelous thing is my mind was opened to alternative meds because of our old bird dog years ago...didnt want to give up on him when he got cancer diagnosis but not prolong painful life either....started my journey, gave him 8 more healthy months and absolutely brought my sweet husband on board.....God bless old Hank who taught us much :bighug:......OH, and love ur soapbox emoji:)....
     
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    You and sweet Noodlekins are covered all the way from the cold ( but not yet snowy) Ozarks.....are you using Slippery Elm???? That is always our go to, for man and beast around here.
     
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    It is very rare that I venture out into the Big Scary World these days (agoraphobic - always need someone with me) but on the few occasions I've been in a supermarket since learning more about proper feline nutrition I've felt the urge to scream, "Don't buy that carp!" at people picking up dry cat food.

    From the time I first adopted my first two rescues my instinct was to feed cats wet food and I asked the vet responsible for their care at the time about what was best to feed. He told me that dry food was much, much better for them so I innocently trusted him and followed his advice. With the exception of Lúnasa's current dietary woes* any sicknesses my cats developed over the years could be directly attributable to their having received a dry diet. I feel angrier at myself than at the vets; I should not have trusted them. Instead I should have done my own research. I'll never get over the feeling of having failed them. (Two of them lost their lives - very young - to bad food and bad vets, and I nearly lost Saoirse to diabetes for the same reasons. I had a near miss with another (obstructed urethra) but I had a great vet at the time and he successfully catheterized Psycho.) :(


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    * It's possible that Lúnasa's GI sensitivity may have been influenced by dry diet since she was also fed kibble for years. She has been eating low carb, wet food since the time I discovered FDMB and catinfo.org but there's no way of knowing whether damage may have been done by that time which then left her vulnerable to the issues she's having now. :(

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    I did try giving her a couple of doses but it made matters worse at that time. Similar story when I tried giving her pumpkin. It's so frustrating when tried and tested treatments don't work for the individual cat. :(

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    BG +2.....111
     
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    Going to do control test on meter, just for info/sanity sake
     
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    Nice.


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    Test fell within correct control numbers so meter is good....let him have a snack as he was nosing around for food.....very alert, moving around. Don't think Elmo got the memo that today is my day kinda off!
     
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    Also nice!

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    Oh, Mogs...that all breaks my heart. You cannot blame yourself for what you did not know! It's not like you knew better but chose not to. We have all followed ,trusted the vet...after all they are trained to know what we should do for our fur babies. I pray for you to be able to forgive yourself and stop carrying the weight of blame. I hate guilt, it is a life sucking, health stealing force. Praying for you to be able to lay it down and refuse it every time it tries to dance across your mind.I watch you on this Board,helping,consoling,being there for all of us while dealing with your own stuff as well.Makes me in further awe of you! You are hard wired to be a helper and encourager and so deserve freedom from guilt !!!! That (and good poops for Noodles) is going to be my concentrated prayer for you !!!!
     
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    I come from an Irish Catholic family. People of the Jewish faith may have invented guilt but our lot have elevated it to an artform. :rolleyes:

    I now try to do what I can to help spare others from what happened to me and my babies ... :( ((Saoirse, Danú, Tara, Psycho)) I wouldn't wish such illness, premature loss, and associated grief on anyone. All I ever wanted to do was to love and care for them and to give them a long, happy and healthy life ...

    I have lost count of the number of times I apologised to Saoirse for harming her because I gave her the wrong food; that it was inadvertent doesn't help assuage the sadness and regret. :( There have been times when I happily went hungry myself to ensure that I could provide my little ones with what I believed to be 'the best' food available. It was soul-shrivelling to discover that I gave them food that was bad for them and which had made them sick. :(

    Thank you, Beth; from the heart.

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  38. Kris & Teasel

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    Don't even get me started! The stories I could tell ...
     
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    Not writing much because I'm away from home on my iPad and am not very good on the touch screen keyboard.:)
     
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    Tablets are pants when it comes to any significant volume of text entry. A stylus can make it a little less difficult to enter text - but it takes fore-v-e-r! :rolleyes:


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    Kris, Mogs, Linda....how I long to give back to the three of you ( along with Chris and China , MaryAnn , several others who are consistently on this journey with Elmo and I). All I can think to offer in addition to prayers is my limited but long time use of homeopathy as instructed by a DVM who got tired of running out of solutions in her practice and went hunting for answers outside the traditional vet community. I have consulted with her for years by phone and have the basics down. Would also encourage you to check out two books: Natural Health for Dogs and Cats by Dr Richard Pitcairn and The Natural Cat byAnitra Frazier( a real crazy cat lady)..... knowing you 3 you probably already know of these things but thot I'd share from my meager knowledge.
     
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    Amen and amen !!! Our desk top is old but it's where I have to painfully fill in the SS...my iPad is my main go to but agree with the touch screen...ahhhhhhhh:banghead::banghead::banghead:
     
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    Totally hear u, Mogs....love my iPad for looking things up but beyond that, not so much!!
     
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    If you could have heard the expletives streaming out of my mouth last March when I was away and had to use texting from my phone and email with my tablet to keep Menace safe and sound and my pet sitter sane, you'd all blush big time! :woot:
     
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    That is so sweet Beth and thank you for those book suggestions. I think I can speak for all of us when I say our payback is seeing the kitties improving and thriving and watching their pet parents go from scared newbies to confident caregivers. All we ask around here is that you give back to others by paying it forward when you are able and you've already been doing that by welcoming newcomers and offering support where you can. :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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    Ahhhhhh, Linda, hearing that makes my stomach hurt....I have very limited patience with technology...I get mad at it pretty quickly :mad:
     
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    Thank you, Linda :bighug:... the debt is beyond payment , especially to the three of you, Chrisand China, Tuxedo mom....
     
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    Beth, I worked in technology and loved it but now have limited patience with it. I seriously long for the olden days before WINDOWS! I like to control what is happening and too much has been taken over such that my biggest problems aren't technical so much as how to shut "the babysitters" in the software off. Give me plain old DOS anyday! :mad:
     
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    Oh, Linda, I taught first grade for years and had UNENDING patience with those little 5 and 6 year old toots compared to next to zero with technology ( and most adults :eek:.....just say in')
     
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    Speaking of technology:nailbiting:.... I am trying to post +2 of 119 and + 4 of 111.... will try to do so without taking desk top out there and backing over it with my husbands truck :mad::mad::mad:
     
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    There's a simple way: pay forward. :)

    Remember that we are here helping you because others in their turn have held our hands when we needed help.

    Beth, it is both a delight and a privilege to be getting to know you. You are such a kind, loving and wise woman. I am very glad that our paths have crossed.

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    Ditto.

    In a former lifetime I was a telecoms design engineer and project manager. But then I ran away and became a picture framer! :) Got rewarded well financially by the former but my time as a framer was truly rewarding work. No one ever thanked me for my work on switch configuration, call centre routing plans or mobile messaging services but there were times when my work as a framer brought tears of happiness (sometimes bittersweet) to those who were kind enough to entrust their precious stories and memories to my hands.

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    Oh, Mogs, the honor and privilege is fully mine....so wonderful to be a member of such a loving, caring group of kindred spirits !!!!
     
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    Some of my work:

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    Beth 73, you'll have good luck with that name. Our Elmo was the absolute smartest cat we ever had. He could stand up high enough to see over a bathroom countertop. An Alpha male and a real Daddy's-Boy. Long life to Elmo!
     
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    Oh Mogs, how rewarding!!! Living in a small town as I do I run into former students and it makes my heart swell. Not much money in teaching in a small town school but some rewards are beyond price. My first group of first graders turned 41 this year but I still see their 6 year old faces when we come across paths. Loved every minute of it!!
     
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    Thank you!!! Elmo got his name from my kids who were avid Sesame Street watchers....haven't gotten to name a cat in 30 years but sounds like I need to be glad they chose Elmo's name !!!
     
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    GORGEOUS !!!!!
     
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    This is beautiful, Mogs!
     
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    That's one of the great things about teaching - the legacy you leave with your students even though you might never know or you learn of it many years later. One of mine is my mom's doctor and another is joining the leadership race for one of the major federal political parties. :) I had some great times with my students (older ones - 15 to 18 year olds) and several apologized years later for being little sods when I taught them ...

    It's a pleasure helping you, Beth. As the others have said, pay it forward. Prayers welcome and I'll check out those two books.
     
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    Absolutely stunning Mogs! Your love of doing the framing is palpable:bighug::bighug::bighug:!
     
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    I'm so glad you like the framing treatment, ladies! :)

    The piece above is one of my all time favourite projects. I framed it as a showcase piece for display in my gallery area. It has a double mount, and both of the mounts have little fillets to give a frame-within-a-frame-within-a-frame effect.

    I absolutely loved framing. It's such intimate work: people bring you souvenirs of their travels, art that makes their hearts happy, their treasured possessions - and their photographs. With your regulars you get to share in the joys and sorrows of their lives: births, First Communions, graduations, weddings, marriages, births, and passings. Some of the most poignant and moving things I was given to frame were mementos of premature babies who sadly didn't survive. :( It was an honour to be able to do something to provide a little comfort to their mothers. :bighug:

    I also offered photo restoration and editing services. I developed a good reputation for the restoration of old photographs of customers' family members. My parents were in their forties when I was born and my maternal grandmother was in her forties when she gave birth to my mother. I never got to meet my grandmother (she passed several years before I arrived on the scene) but my mother had a photograph of her from the time when she, my grandmother, was in her prime and she was beautiful to look at. From I first saw that picture I developed a fascination for old family pictures. It's lovely to be able to see the faces of ancestors one never got a chance to meet; to get some little bit more of a connection with them. I restored my customers' family photos as though they were my own and they really appreciated the care and attention I gave to the work. :)

    It gave me tremendous pleasure to earn a crust by creating beautiful things which brought happiness to others. The accident put paid to all of that. I miss it. :(


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    Great teachers are wonderful, wonderful people! The gifts you give to us, your students, stay with us all our lives. Thank you!

    I bet your students were mad about you, Beth! :)

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    Just had a gander at Elmo's spreadsheet:

    AMBG: 136/156 - no Vetsulin
    AM+2: 111
    AM+4: 119

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    Encouraged but calm...he is up in his man cave ...will be interesting to see what +11 and PMPS brings...
     
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    Ahhh, Mogs, thank you... taught first grade(5-6 year olds) and then 4th grade( 9-10 year olds).... didnt have our own children til I was into my 30s cos I had my kids at school . Teaching in a small town was a great experience .
     
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    "Little sods" .... I love that !!! I adore teenagers too ! Most adults I say that to have thot I have a screw loose:confused:
     
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    Mogs, I wish you had been able to continue doing the work you were so passionate about but from where I sit, I think you have shifted that passion to this community and for that we are all grateful. Nursing was my passion and I miss it to this day but the staff cuts and the "politics" of dealing with doctors who did their rounds like a general inspecting military troops without a modicum of compassion, and staff/patient ratios that were downright unsafe at times made it impossible for me to look after my patients as well as I wanted to so I ran for the hills to keep my sanity. :(
     
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    Linda, I totally understand. I was partially driven from education due to the same thing...superiors who had no idea what teachers dealt with in the classrooms and increasing govt demanded unnecessary paperwork. What a loss to the nursing profession the day you left . :(
     
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    Beth, I resigned the day after I got called up on the carpet for asking a "famous" orthopaedic surgeon to wash his hands between patients to prevent a patient recovering from osteomyelitis (bone infection) from getting re-infected. The surgeon's previous patient was growing a healthy crop of Staph Aureus. Nasty stuff! This doctor did rounds with an entourage of "worshippers" practically licking his feet and apparently I embarrassed him! That was the straw that broke this camel's back. I wasn't there to massage the doctor's ego and I was mortified that the Director of Nursing saw fit to tell me I acted incorrectly rather than telling the doctor I did the right thing.

    My last day, surprisingly, the Director of Nursing came up to the nursing station and told me what a great orthopaedic nurse I was and that she was sure I'd be back . I made sure I never set foot in the door again!
     
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    How sad, Linda, because I know you were a fabulous RN. I have many friends in nursing, one a Nurse Practioner.They r the life blood of the medical community. Here in our little town we have several doctors backed up by nurse practioners and when we call we ALWAYS request Janis. Never have seen the doctor in all these years!! We love nurses. And trust them more.
     
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    Well, aren't we a group of folks who were passionate about their work! I'd have gone to the wall for my students and in my last year or two got called into a "careerist" principal's office three times to explain what I'd done or said that wasn't "board policy". I'd never had that sort of confrontation with an administrator in all of my years teaching prior to that. They knew they could count on me to run a tight ship, do a good job and not bother them with discipline issues. This last guy was far more concerned about how he looked to his higher ups.
     
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    @Beth 73 I too trust nurses more than doctors. It had been my goal initially to go back and get my Nurse Practitioner degree but sadly until perhaps the last 10 yrs or so, the only place a Nurse Practitioner could find work in that capacity here was in extremely rural northern areas where a snowmobile would be the major method of transportation for a good part of the year and I'd go out of my mind with that long a winter. It's snowing here again BTW. A real good blow this time. Man, Mother Nature has it in for us this year. Another major dump expected tomorrow into Saturday too. I may be hiring a snow clearing service at at an inflated rate no doubt, if this keeps up. :rolleyes:

    @Kris & Teasel @Beth 73 I have always viewed as teacher's job as one of the hardest there is. I really don't know how you guys did it. My hat's off to you both. I was lucky enough to have a number of amazing teachers that I worshipped through public and high school. Kris, I'm sorry to hear of your similar experience. It's so disheartening when you put your heart and soul into your work and all you really have to do to succeed and stay out of trouble is tow the party line because nobody cares about the important stuff anymore.

    BTW Kris, I just called for to order some more AT2 strips from Glen Shields. The price has skyrocketed by $17.00 per vial tax included. :mad: I think Abbott is trying to kill the meter now that they sold it off to Zoetis. I am now going to have to decide whether to use the FS meter or use the FS strips in my AT2 meter. Enough of this gouging for me come Jan 1,2017! A New Year's resolution I'm guaranteed to keep! :woot:

    Can you tell me roughly what difference you found in the readings using the FS strips in the AT2 meter? I did some comparisons ages ago and can't remember off hand what they were.
     
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    Ahhh... i am a dolt...didn't realize you were a fellow educator, Kris....yeah !!! My last principal was a wiener:cool:....just sayin':rolleyes:
     
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    If you go look at Teasel's SS you'll see I have a page with my comparison data shown. I do a few comparisons every time I open a new vial of AT strips. The AT meter is set at whatever cat code the new vial of AT strips wants. So far, all I've had was 38 as the cat code. I realize that there are many permutations and combinations of variables that could be tested out like trying several known cat codes with each vial of FS strips or comparison testing each new vial of FS strips against my current vial of AT strips but there's a limit to the complexity I want to deal with! My tests so far show a difference of around 3% to 7% between them with the FS strips reading higher. I keep that in mind when I evaluate any borderline low BG number and retest with an AT strip if I'm unsure. So far there have been no horrible surprises.
     
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  76. Kris & Teasel

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    Yup! Hard core science - high school physics and chemistry.
     
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    @ Kris Thank you so much for that info. If memory serves that is pretty much in line with what I determined many moons ago. Maybe I'm not totally losing it quite yet. :woot: Now to decide what to do. I just about choked when the pharmacist told me the new price for the strips. Her excuse was that THEY (the pharmacy) hadn't been keeping up with cost increases. At least this time they had some in stock! So I'll go get my 3 vials and keep them for rechecks on those days when Menace forgets her parachute and jumps off the cliff! :rolleyes:
     
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    They've been getting pressure from the Ontario Veterinary Association too about selling meds and prescription food. That might be one reason they've raised their price. I pay about $102 for a vial at my vet's. I have about 2.5 AT vials ahead of me here but rarely use those strips these days because I'm confident that the FS strips aren't way off base. I did all 3 BG tests yesterday with AT strips as a spot check. Usually, though, it's a one off comparison if a number is wonky.
     
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    You will be able to give a very small dose tonight I think. Awaiting the PMPS ...
     
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    Hi Ladies,

    It has been lovely sharing stories here today - even if the subjects of some of them were sad and/or frustrating. I want to write a proper reply but I'm really not good right now (exhausted; aches and inflammation getting worse) so I'm going to knock back a full dose of zolpidem and head for the leaba as soon as I've fed the Noodlebug.

    Blessings to you and your furry childer. Thank you for the wonderful company. Will catch ye on the morrow.

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    Got so excited about his AMPS no shoot that forgot to give his morning thyroid meds...don't know if that makes a difference....he has slept all day,litter box normal...
     
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    Looking that way alright.

    Sorry I can't stay for PMPS. :(

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    Yes mam, in about 45 minutes....again, my broken record says" where oh where would I be without all of you"????:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    Go rest, Mogs!
     
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    Go to sleep, Mogs:bighug:.....sweetest of dreams to you :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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    We've got it!
     
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    If his metabolism speeds up without the meds then any insulin dose given tonight may perhaps be metabolised faster? (Don't know: brainstorming.)

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    Missing one dose of thyroid meds shouldn't be a problem or affect BG much if at all.
     
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    I don't think it's as immediate/large an effect as missing insulin would be.
     
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    I'm with Kris. Give him his shot tonight. Same dose 0.25 minus drop. That wasn't bad at all for a day without insulin. Elmo is being a good boy!

    @Critter Mom Wishing you sweet dreams and a restorative sleep tonight! :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug: Scritches for the Noodler!
     
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    Can you all explain what is going on with this 168 ???
     
  93. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    Beth, that is a million dollar question. If you look back at his AMPS readings after the evening skipped shots, he's doing what he did before... basically the same reading. No worries. Elmo is now leading this dance and your job is to follow and learn his steps. Even if he changes them up a bit or takes two steps forward and two steps back, you just have to follow.
     
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    But I have you all as partners :):bighug::):bighug:
     
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    Btw, ketones negative :)....the little fart ;)
     
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    Yeah negative ketones. :D Yes you have us as partners and thankfully none of us have had to scream STOP STEPPING ON MY TOES at Elmo lately! Elmo is being such a good boy!
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    Love your emojis, Linda....where did u get them ????
     
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    PMPS...165....
     
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    Eat in 20 minutes....shoot in 50 minutes...
     
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    I've just poked around the web for free stuff and downloaded most of them. Feel free to copy what you like and use them! I think I might be an emoji junkie! :smuggrin:
     
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