Feeding Schedules

Discussion in 'Feline Health - (The Main Forum)' started by G & I, Dec 28, 2017.

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  1. G & I

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    I am still trying to find a good schedule for feeding Goma. Have you all found larger portions on fewer times or smaller portions more frequently to be better? Also it appears that Goma should be eating at least two cans of Mon petite(f f) per day plus the chicken I make. I base this on the calorie count for her to attain her ideal body weight. Which schedule is easier on her system and helps her with the feeding frenzy? I can do any schedule needed.
     
  2. Kris & Teasel

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    Most of us would recommend small meals more frequently. It helps kitties who eat too fast and vomit, staves off the extreme hunger they might have and can help to keep BG more level.
     
  3. FurBabiesMama

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    I feed four meals daily - 6am, 12pm, 6pm, 12am. I leave any leftover food out until the next meal or until two hours prior to shot time. So really, they have access to food all day except for 4 hours (the two hours before each shot).
     
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  4. Critter Mom

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    Given that Goma's not yet regulated and, by the sounds of it, still showing symptoms of polyphagia (ravenous/insatiable appetite) the general recommendation is not to restrict access to food (apart from the 2 hours before each preshot test so that the test will confirm whether it's safe to give insulin). This is especially relevant if a kitty is underweight, doubly so if still losing weight due to poor regulation of blood glucose levels.


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  5. G & I

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    Thank you. I just think if I kept food in front of her she would eat all day.

    I am just now in unfamiliar territory. At 0545 this morning Goma’s bg was 171. I did a second test and saw 175. I fed her and am not scheduled for injection for another hour and 45 minutes. (~10 am)
    What is a rule to follow about whether to give injections or not or reduce.
     
  6. Kris & Teasel

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    There's nothing wrong with doing this, especially if she's thin. Just take up the food 2 hours before the pre shot BG test.

    It's easier for us if you give times as hours elapsed since the shot. We're in many different time zones. Am I correct that the 171 and 175 were test results at about +8 (8 hours after the previous shot)? Take away all food around 8 AM your time (+10), do the pre shot BG test and post here for advice. The general rule when you're new at this is no injection if BG is under 200. However, Goma has been very high for a while now and it would be best to give some insulin. We can make a recommendation of you post the result. It seems that you're seeing the effect of a fresh vial of ProZinc.

    If you have time could you update your SS with all data you have after 26 Dec.?
     
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  7. FurBabiesMama

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    Did you give her a shot at 10pm? If so, the 5:45am test would have been 7.75 hours after the shot. So, there is a good chance she will have risen enough by 10am that it will be fine to give the normal dose. It is really very important that you add your test results to the spreadsheet. Nothing has been logged since 12/26. There is no data at all on how she has been responding to the 2u dosing. Without the data, it makes it very difficult for us to give you any advice on dosing. If you cannot find the test results you were writing on a calendar, please at least start entering the results from now forward.

    With no data to go on, I can just share with you the normal 'rule' for people who are starting out which is not to give insulin if the number is under 250 when using an AlphaTrak, BUT really, as high as she has been (for the time in your spreadsheet at least), she probably needs some dose of insulin. It is just hard to recommend a reduced dose with no data to go on.
     
  8. Kris & Teasel

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    Yes, I mistakenly said no shot if under 200 but that's for a human meter.
     
  9. Critter Mom

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    Blue! Good to see a bit of a budge. :)


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  10. G & I

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    You are correct that the reading was + 8 but she had no food in her bowl. Fed her until 8a.m. and stopped (+10). Have now updated the spreadsheet as I located the calendar. I know the meter keeps track, but I received my own and began using and gave the loaner back to the vet a few days ago. I'm glad I also recorded on notepads and calendars. Will take reading shortly and feed her again prior to scheduled injection. Will post in a few minutes. Thank you all for being there. The time difference is a factor I know. I am trying to get these injections back to an earlier time, hence my previous questions.
     
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  11. G & I

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    Sorry for the inconvenience. I located the calendar and have updated the spreadsheet. I would have taken it from the meter but as I advised another I gave the meter back to the vet when I received my own. So the notepad and calendar were important. I did give her a shot at 10:00 pm. I think it probably has risen since I fed her from 0545 until about 8:00. Will be taking test in a couple of minutes and will post.
     
  12. G & I

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    Update - The amps is 398 so I plan on giving regular injection of 2.00 units (correct?)
     
  13. Kris & Teasel

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    I LIKE that much improved AMPS! Yes, give the 2 u dose again. You need a bit more data now that it seems to have kicked in. We'll likely suggest an increase to 2.25 u fairly soon unless she really surprises you. :)
     
  14. Critter Mom

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    Oh, so do I! :D

    (((Goma))) :cat:


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  15. G & I

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    Thanks for the information. Goma is beginning to gain some weight back. Small to be sure, but finally heading in the right direction. She was at about 2.3 kg and is now 2.65 kg. Her former weight was about 5 kg.
     
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    I'm a bit surprised at this sudden change and holding onto hopes that she will begin to stabilize in this area so I can breathe normally again. Not sure if I will be able to eyeball a .25 increase, but as I've done the best I can thus far, I'll certainly give it a go if/when needed.

    Thank you again...Having this forum is so much better than what I have been going through since early November.
     
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  17. Critter Mom

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    When 'eyeballing' doses, decide what the 0.25 looks like to you and stick to that way of measuring it; consistency is the thing. (I found it helpful to draw a pictorial "enlargement" of where I'd positioned the plunger between the syringe markings to use as a reminder of what to aim for when measuring subsequent doses.)

    BTW it can help to use some sort of magnifying device to help with dose measurement. For example, I bought a cheap 'n' cheerful jeweller's loupe from eBay, similar to this:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jewelry-...743406?hash=item2cc280362e:g:S0QAAOSwgu9ZX2Y8

    Trying to deal with FD with little or no support is no joke. :bighug: I'm very glad to hear that things have got better for you since you found FDMB. (I'm beyond grateful for the help I've received from the members here.)


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