GA Fred 11-28/2015 AMBG 60, + 1 62, + 2 64, + 4 61, + 6 51, +7 35, + 7:15 31, + 7.5 32,+ 7:45 35, +

Please help.
I am out of town and my husband just called me.
Fred is around 20.
Seizure and pee all over.

 

He does not want take him to the vet because of more bills.
He said he already tried to give him with syringe karo but he still not improving .

 

He is conscious .

 

He needs to get syrup in immediately he can syringe rectally and then he needs to get him to the vet this is an emergency

 

Fred had no insulin for almost 3 days. He was around 45-80 during this days.

 

He won't

He won't take him to the vet.

 

If he's seizing and Fred hasn't had any insulin, something else is going on. I would really get him to a vet. without insulin, there's no reason for his numbers to be in the 20s. He may need to be on a dextrose drip and you can't do that at home. I'm sorry, but more Karo on the gums, scoop Fred up and get to the vet/ER.

 

Depending how far away the vet is he should take the syrup with him to keep administering.

Fred should not be having an insulin induced hypo when he hasn't had insulin for so many days so I suspect there may be something else going on to cause this.

 

I'm sorry to be blunt but if he doesn't get Fred to the vet I think there is every chance you will lose him. Tell your husband I will help out with vet bill just get him there - now

 

Isabela --

There are just some things we're not equipped to handle nor is a caregiver able to handle on his or her own. I realize this can be costly but I don't know of a better alternative. Unless your husband inadvertently gave Fred insulin, what he's seeing isn't insulin related. It's certainly outside of the scope of my expertise.

 

I agree with the others....this really is something that only a vet can address.

 

I agree with Sienne and Vyktor's Mom.
Fred needs to see a vet as soon as possible. If insulin hasn't been given for almost 3 days... something else is going on.

 

His numbers are now 43.
He is responding.
Got karo by mount and rectaly.
Will test again in 10 min .

 

All my husband keep saying is that he wants to end his own agony and get rid of Fred.
I am sorry. I am in deep tears right now. Away from home.
Will be home only tomorrow at lunch.
He was just fine.

 

Prayers for you Isabela and for dear Fred

 

....

 

I'm glad he's come up a little but I'm still really frightened for you and Fred. This should not be caused by insulin so is something else. I'm so sorry you're not home with him

 

Prayers for you & Fred

 

Sending prayers.

 

Hugs and prayers...

 

Isabella, I am so sorry you are going through this. I hope, when you get home, Fred is hanging in there and you will be able to take him to the vet. In the meantime, we are all praying for him, and you.

 

Adding more prayers Isabella....Wish there was something we could do to help ....One thing I'd make 100% sure of is that nobody gave Fred any insulin...I know you've had problems with your petsitter before ....even with your instructions, is it possible she did it anyway?

Hugs for you

 

Fred 11-28/2015

AMBG 60, + 1 62, + 2 64, + 4 61, + 6 51, +7 35, + 7:15 31, + 7.5 32,+ 7:45 35, + 8 55, + 8:15 57, + 8.5 55, + 9 58, + 10 20, + 11 20, + 7:15 34, + 7.5 42.

 

I was told no insulin was given to Fred.

I was able to do a ketone test on him before I left the house.
It was around his PM + 7.
After 15 second it looks negative.
I was gone with him the last week or so and he was just fine.

 

Test

 

Yeah that looks like a negative ketone test to me too

There are some diseases that can cause very low numbers. Without having Fred go to the vet, there's just no way to know for sure what's going on with him, but you have all our prayers and hopes that whatever is going on, Fred fights back and is fine when you're able to get back home to him

 

Oh dear Fred, please hang in there for mama. Our thoughts and prayers are with you

 

((((Isabela))))) all my healing thoughts, prayers and good wishes are going to Fred.

 

Fred 11-28/2015

AMBG 60, + 1 62, + 2 64, + 4 61, + 6 51, +7 35, + 7:15 31, + 7.5 32,+ 7:45 35, + 8 55, + 8:15 57, + 8.5 55, + 9 58, + 10 20, + 11 20, + 7:15 34, + 7.5 42, + 7:45 37

PMBG 39

 

Gave him about 1 full teaspoon of Karo split between 3 teaspoons of gravy.

 

He needs to keep going - there's always the risk of overdoing the karo and having Fred start vomiting - something your husband needs to be aware of. Many people will alternate the meat from the high carb cat food with the gravy (with a little karo added) to try to help sustain the blood sugar a little longer. So one time give karo/gravy, the next time give the meat.

How is Fred behaving now?

I'm feeling so badly for you - yet again while you're gone he has another crisis. Big hug to you.

 

Fred 11-28/2015

AMBG 60, + 1 62, + 2 64, + 4 61, + 6 51, +7 35, + 7:15 31, + 7.5 32,+ 7:45 35, + 8 55, + 8:15 57, + 8.5 55, + 9 58, + 10 20, + 11 20, + 7:15 34, + 7.5 42, + 7:45 37

PMBG 39, +8:15 37

 

And he can give more syrup rectally if Fred will take it ok. It really would be so much better if he was on a drip this is a very sustained period of very low numbers I feel so bad for you

 

Glad to see him up but with a lot of karo and syrup, he could come back down. I’m so sorry, Isabela and send Fred tons of prayers and also some for you.

 

Many prayers for Fred tonight. And strength for you and your DH.



Ella & Rusty

 

Fred 11-28/2015

AMBG 60, + 1 62, + 2 64, + 4 61, + 6 51, +7 35, + 7:15 31, + 7.5 32,+ 7:45 35, + 8 55, + 8:15 57, + 8.5 55, + 9 58, + 10 20, + 11 20, + 7:15 34, + 7.5 42, + 7:45 37

PMBG 39, + pm 15 min 37, +pm 30 minutes 37, + 1 53, + 1.5 37

 

C'mon Fred come up boy.

 

Praying for Fred, and for you and your husband to find strength.

 

I'm afraid this number isn't going to come up with karo, if something other than insulin is causing it to be low. I know it must be hard if your husband has a different opinion. Any chance he will change his mind and go to the vet when he gets tired of all this testing?

Either way, sending hugs and prayers your way.

 

((((((((isabella))))))))))

i've been away this week......
any other symptoms.....
from my own limited ( limited is the key word) observations, the big ugly that causes low numbers is cancer.
maybe if you can tell us other symptoms, one of us can at least inspire your dh to talk to the vet tomorrow.
i really love that beautiful face on Fred.

 

She posted in Grief support that Fred is gone

 

oh isabela, I'm so sorry - my heart is simply broken for you.

 

Isabela, I am so very very sorry. Hugs to you in this most difficult time.

 

So much love and hugs sent to you right now from me and Trouble!

 

My deepest condolences on your loss Isabela, fly free sweet Fred

 

I'm so sorry.

 

I'm so sorry. Sending prayers. Fly free Fred.

 

I'm so sorry Isabela.

 

I am so sorry. Our dear Guardian angel kitties will meet Fred at the rainbow bridge Fly free and land softly dear Fred

 

Fly free sweet Fred and land softly. Know that you are loved.

 

So sorry for your loss!

 

Isabella, I'm so sorry for your loss! My thoughts & prayers are with you

 

Isabella, my deepest sympathies.

 

I am so sorry.
Liz

 

I am so sorry for your loss. I know you are heartbroken.

 

((((Isabella)))), We are so very sorry. Fred is flying free and he is in "good paws" with all of our Guardian Angels at the Bridge.

In deepest sympathy,

Ella and Edward, Rusty, and Stu (GA)

 

Isabella So sorry for your loss. Fly Free little one Send your Momma a sign from the Bridge that you are o.k. for she loves you sooo much and always will. R.I.P. Fred.

 

So sorry for you loss. Be free Fred.

 

Our very deepest condolences in your tragic loss, Isabela. Sending you prayers.

Fly free, Fred.

 

{{{Isabela}}}

I am so saddened by your loss. You have been on my mind all night. I pray you will find peace and treasure your many happy memories of Fred. He will be watching over you from the Rainbow Bridge.

Fly free, sweet Fred, and land softly.

 

We're so sorry to hear about Fred. It was so unexpected. Our prayers are with you.

 

He was so loved. He knew. And he knew heart to heart that you were, indeed, with him. After all, he took a piece of your heart with him on his journey.

Hugs for your pain. Light for your comfort and healing.

Marilyn

 

Isabela, if you feel like it please feel free to post a memorial to your beautiful Fred in this forum. You weren't here so long but you and Fred still became a part of our family. I'm so sorry for the sudden loss of your special friend. I hope you can take comfort in the years of wonderful memories that you have

 

I agree with Serryn - if you feel like telling us more about his story, we'd be interested in hearing.

You've been on my mind all day. I hope you got home safely.

 

Sorry for your loss. Fred knew he was loved. I know it was hard being away when he passed. Fly free Fred.

 

Sending healing wishes for your heart, and hoping that you find peace in knowing that Fred is free of whatever ailed him and that he's in the company of all of the other kitties who have gone ahead, patiently awaiting the day when you can be reunited again. Fly free Fred!

 

Isabela, Bron is unable to post currently but wanted to pass on her condolences on your loss. With deepest sympathy.

 

I can see the heartbreak in your posts, I am so sorry. It is clear you were dedicated to your Fred and did everything you could for him. Land softly sweet one.

 

((((( Isabela )))))

 

heartbroken for you and sweet Fred. Deepest sympathies on the loss of your dear friend. Fly free sweet Fred, many will greet and guide you over the bridge. Big hugs to you Isabela.

 

((((Oh Isabela))))

My heart hurts to read this. I'm so terribly sorry for the loss of your dear sweet Fred. You were the best, loving momma bean a kitty could ask for. Always remember that. Fred had a wonderful happy life with you and was lucky to have you. So many hugs to you.

 

((((Isabela)))) - I'm so terribly sorry to read of your loss. You were a wonderful mamabean to Fred, and he will be waiting to greet you at the Bridge. Fred, please send your mamabean a sign that you've arrived safely at the Bridge.