Getting Frustrated

Discussion in 'Prozinc / PZI' started by lisa ryan, Nov 24, 2019.

  1. lisa ryan

    lisa ryan New Member

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    So I'm new to the other end of all of this. I used to be a vet nurse and it was so easy giving advice and talking to clients. But, now this is my cat and I feel like all of my knowledge is gone when it comes to him. He is on ProZinc and he seemed to be doing great when he was on his old diet of SO and his old amount of 1 1/2 cups of food (he got it due to losing weight I and the vet thought thyroid until bloodwork came back.) He dropped from 603 to 132. He's now shot back up to 342 even with his insulin, glycobalance, and less food. He isn't showing signs of it being high. I'm not filling his water bowl consistently and he's not urinating as much either. I am going to try and get a reading a few days from now on my Glucometer instead of the alphatrak to see.
     
  2. FurBabiesMama

    FurBabiesMama Well-Known Member

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    Hi and welcome. You might want to consider changing him to a low-carb wet food diet. There was someone here whose vet had his cat eating glycobalance, and once we convinced him to switch to low-carb wet food, the cat's insulin dose could be dropped in half. The carbs are pretty high in the glycobalance.

    Sounds like you are home testing, so it would be great if you could set up one of the spreadsheets we use here to record your test results and insulin doses given. It is a wonderful tool in managing this. Here are links to info on the spreadsheet as well as to info on setting up a signature:
    http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/fdmb-spreadsheet-instructions.130337/
    http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/understanding-the-spreadsheet-grid.156606/
    http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/editing-your-signature-profile-and-preferences.130340/
     
  3. lisa ryan

    lisa ryan New Member

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    I have an excel spreadsheet that I use. He's on glycobalance due to the fact that he had to be on Urinary S/O from blocking pretty bad.
     
  4. MrWorfMen's Mom

    MrWorfMen's Mom Well-Known Member

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    It's great that you are home testing and keeping records of all the BG tests on a spreadsheet but the problem is that not every one here can open and see an Excel spreadsheet which is why we use Google sheets that can be set up for viewing only by members here through a link in your signature (the light grey text under our messages.) Our spreadsheet has automated colouring that makes it very easy to see patterns and trends which help to decipher what is going on and how to proceed dosing wise.

    All the data you have kept up till now can be easily transferred onto the our spreadsheet (we can help) and it's up to you if you want to keep using your Excel sheet but we are very data oriented here and for the safety of your cat, we need readily available current information to provide you with the best help possible.

    If you want to start one of our spreadsheets and need some help, just holler. If you try it and don't like it, you can go back to your Excel spreadsheet at any time. :)
     
  5. Si am cat mom

    Si am cat mom Member

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    Hi there ! I was in a similar situation.Former vet tech here. My cat was never blocked, but has had stones and struvites in the past. We were on C/D up until his diabetes diagnosis after being on SO for a shot time. I've noticed that most urinary diets have lower phosphorus levels- which the Glycobalance does. At around 14-15% carbs it's higher than you want for a diabetic, but perfect for urinary health with phos levels < 200. I tried to find foods with similar good content and less bad. There are a few foods with high moisture, good protein content but less carbohydrates and phosphorus levels. You could always check out the nutritional breakdown and compare - see what you think ? My vet was pretty clueless about nutrition but thought my comparable diet was a good choice.

    I also bought urinalysis strips and check weekly. After everything I've read I think the years I fed dry food and higher carbs... contributed to his urinary issues.
     
  6. Wendy&Neko

    Wendy&Neko Senior Member Moderator

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    If you haven’t been to the catinfo website yet, it’s a good read by a vet specializing in nutrition. https://catinfo.org/feline-urinary-tract-diseases/

    I did not have diabetes and urinary issues in the same cat, but rather with two cats diagnosed one week apart. The diabetic would push the non diabetic out of the way and eat his food, so I had to find a diet that worked for both. Which was low carb low phosphorus, raw food in my case, with water added. It did away with the cystitis.
     

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