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? HELP - hypoglycemia Wednesday need guidance for Friday AM

Discussion in 'Lantus / Basaglar (glargine) and Levemir (detemir)' started by Jill & Pansy Panini, Aug 15, 2019.

  1. Jill & Pansy Panini

    Jill & Pansy Panini Member

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    Hello,

    Yesterday evening when I did the BG, Pansy was at 53. I have her karo syrup and high carb food and her numbers improved.

    Another forum member advised no AM shot if under 200. The cutoff would usually be 100 but this person felt that 200 was safer because of my lack of data.

    Additionally, a reduction of .25 was recommended. She was on .5 units Lantus 8/11 and now she'll be on .25.

    This AM her BG was 172 so I didn't give her a shot.

    Her PM BG is 264. If I follow instructions given yesterday, it's ok to give her .25 insulin.

    Does this seem OK?

    Thanks!

    Jill
     
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  2. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    Also, I am taking tomorrow off from work to do a glucose curve. It's a good idea to do that, right?
     
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  3. Krystina & Nelli

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    YES :bighug:... following yesterday advise is purrfect :)
     
  4. Krystina & Nelli

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    O.k.a.y- my advise would be to see what her AMPS is- if ok, test again at +2.
    I will keep an eye on you in morning ;)
     
  5. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    Hi Krystina,

    So I shouldn't do a glucose curve tomorrow? Is it too soon with the new .25 dose? Thanks for your help..greatly appreciated!
     
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  6. Bobbie And Bubba

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    Hey there! Pansy, ( love the name!) earned a reduction fair and square with that 54 and you are using the AT2 meter. I would give .25 tonight as long as you can monitor. If she is still in bounce mode from that 54 number, I would wait for the bounce to clear which can take 3 days or 6 cycles . If you try to do a curve during a bounce, you are not getting a true reading of what dose can do. And you are wasting very expensive AT2 test strips.
     
  7. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    Hi Bobbie,

    I felt safe with the BG of 264 but I will watch her and test again before bed.

    No curve tomorrow eh? I think I will relax a bit then and forage at Wal-Mart for 31 gauge syringes and a magnifying glass.

    Maybe work on collecting items to donate to the Kitten Rescue of Mason County garage sale!
     
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  8. Red & Rover (GA)

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    You could also try magnifying reading glasses from the dollar store if they don't give you a headache.
    Practice using coloured water until you get what you feel is 0.25. Put the cap on the needle and use it as a comparison.
    Get a +1 and +2 tonight. The +1 may be higher because of a food spike. The +2 will be more telling of what tonight's cycle will hold.

    0.25unit.jpeg
     
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  9. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    If I wait fo
    I missed the +1 but will do the +2. Good idea about the colored water! TY!
     
  10. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    +2 BG is 165.
    Is this worrisome?
     
  11. Krystina & Nelli

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    No.
     
  12. Krystina & Nelli

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  14. Krystina & Nelli

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    It’s gonna be a wait and see... AMPS.
    Take a chill pill, darlin’.
    Breathe. :bighug:
     
  15. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    I gave P a little FF as a reward for enduring another BG test. Should I leave a little food out at night?
     
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  16. Krystina & Nelli

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    Sure. If it makes you feel calm... it won’t hurt :bighug:
     
  17. Krystina & Nelli

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    Try to get some rest... you and PP are dependent on this!!! :cat: :)
     
  18. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    She was 264 at 5:00 PM
    Insulin at 6 PM
    BG at 8:00 (+2 right?) Was 165
    That's quite a drop. Still not scary? Just want to be sure...quite anxious about this.
    We've experienced 2 hypoglycemia events - last week and yestery.
     
  19. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    I don't think there's a chill pill powerful enough. I try to make due with a bendryl and audio book at bedtime.
     
  20. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I would keep monitoring the BG if the preshot was 264 and +2 was 165. Yes that is a big drop and it will be an active cycle. I would feed a teaspoon of low carb food now and test at +3 to see how she's going.
    If you can keep the SS up to date that would be helpful
     
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  21. Krystina & Nelli

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    Breathe, seriously, it helps to lay quiet... breathe deep. Concentrate on your eyes- consciously try to let all little eye muscles rest. Easier said than done, trust me :rolleyes:.
    Yoga trick :)
     
  22. Krystina & Nelli

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    ;)
     
  23. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    I just updated SS. I think auto correct messed up your message. "a t sapping" of low carb food?
     
  24. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Thanks.
    Yes I have just corrected. Sorry. My iPad is playing up and the autocorrect doesn't help.
     
  25. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    Thanks Bron for the clarification!
     
  26. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    When is the +3 due?
     
  27. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    9:00...so I'm 8 minutes late. Was watering the garden. She ate the teaspoon of food.
     
  28. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    That's ok. I'll watch for result
     
  29. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Any result yet Jill?
     
  30. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    BG 136 @9:37 PM...or 3.5 hours after insulin
     
  31. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Ok so still dropping.
    I would give a tablespoon of low carb food now and test in 1 hour again.
    Try not to leave it longer than an hour. I'll be watching.
    She is quite safe, but we don't want her to drop too fast or too much, so that is why we are giving her some food to try and control the drop a bit.. Is that ok with you?
     
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  32. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    Yes! I'm so grateful for your assistance, Bron! Will test again around 10:30.
     
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  33. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    She only ate a little bit of food. I sprinkled with freeze dried salmon..just took a few bites. Her full name is Pansy Panini Pooper because she does poopery things from time to time.
     
  34. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Haha! Good name!
    Is she normally a good eater?
     
  35. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    BG is 133 @10:37. (+4 or really +4.5)

    I offered her LC food and she ate a few bites.
    Is it time for a forkful of high carb food?
     
  36. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    Yeah but she had dinner at 5:30...shot at 6...then seconds later...then a teaspoon at least once...
     
  37. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    No need to give any high carb food. She has stayed the same as last time.
    Are you able to test again in an hour?
     
  38. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    I can set the alarm for 1 hour...I am sleepy! She just ate a few more bites of food. Also drinking water.
     
  39. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Ok. If she’s still about the same at next test, then she should be ok. It will be +5.5 by then.
     
  40. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    Tried and failed.
     
  41. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Can you try again?
     
  42. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    Well, I fed her some FF and she ate it. She's kind of annoyed!
     
  43. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    One more test would be good if you could. Otherwise leave some food out for her.
     
  44. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    Tried again, no luck. Food is out for her. I'm off to bed. Have to do this again less than 5 hours. Thanks for your help!
     
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  45. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    This AM her BG is 129 - this is 2nd day after hypoglycemia. Her insulin was reduced.
    I understand this may be a bounce.
    I was told not to shoot if under 200.
    Following this rule I will skip the shot.
    Does this seem correct?

    Thanks!
    Jill
     
  46. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I would skip.
    Especially as you have to go to work don’t you?
    No, 129 is not a bounce.
     
  47. Jill & Pansy Panini

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    I am staying home today but after all the testing yesterday, Pansy is pissed. It was a real struggle getting the BG this morning. I don't want to do that again.
    Thanks for responding!
     
  48. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    129 on the alphatrak 2 is too low for you to shoot without more data.
    If you can, try and get some more tests in during the cycles. I don’t mean today when you haven’t given insulin, but cycles when insulin has been given
     

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