Is drop possible 2nite? 12/6 TAFFY AMPS- 41/+30min 55/+1 74/+4 146/PMPS 344/+1 336/+3 318

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I had to feed him and I am skipping his shot because I have to leave the house in less than an hour and be gone for up to two hours. He is fine, acting fine.

Actually was less annoying this morning about waking me (he still did but not as aggressive). He was clearly hungry, as he polished off a good brekkie. I gave his regular LC and added some HC gravy to keep him up while I am gone. He is actually more hunger frantic when his numbers are high, though. In the mornings, he is usually relentless to get me up and he frantically seeks and tries to eat dust bunnies and lint. Not today. He was still asking for food but not as pressing.

I want to discuss this more when I get back, but if I understand the protocol correctly, I should have stalled more at such a low preshot and test again to see which direction he was headed. But I could not wait and have to get ready to leave. I need to understand the depot better so I can make better decisions. Taffy seems to be slow reactor. Late onset, I think, and delayed reaction to foods. I need to figure this out. I also feel guilty about not testing last night or early this morning. I have been so tired lately and needed sleep and just figured his numbers would be high from the kibble. But I wish I had now so I would have an idea about when he started to drop. Oh well, hindsight.

I'm going to test again in a few minutes, but I already fed and am skipping shot. I guess I have to view this as routine, and not as something with a goal (remission) and healing his pancreas. If I have my eye on remission, I feel like these days of getting into kibble and skipping shots are such set backs. But I guess these things are going to happen. :cat:
 
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tiffmaxee said:
Hi. I don't respond much lately because it's too hard and I'm mourning two big losses but when I saw this I wanted to make sure that you know Taffy has earned a reduction to 1.50 tonight. He will likely bounce from the low BG and skipped shot. You did the right thing by skipping since you won't be around to monitor.
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Thank you for responding. So sorry you are going through sad times.:bighug:
He had just gone back up with a dose increase because he was not responding well to his last reduction. And yesterday he had some unauthorized kibble. So this low number morning was a shock!:woot:
I'm going to get home as soon as I am able, but he was going up when I left.
 
Just an observation...

Last night, there was a drop of 80 points by +2. Typically, you're +2 should be around the same as your pre-shot test value. It might have been informative if you had been able to sneak another test or two in to see where Taffy's numbers were headed.

Also, remember that your kitty earned a dose reduction.
 
I'm glad you skipped Julie. :eek:
That'll give the depot a chance to drain, and hopefully you'll have some calmer cycles until the depot builds on his new reduced dose.

That +2 being 80pts lower was Taffy giving you a heads up for more testing, bear that one in mind, though I think you already realized that.

Taffysmama said:
Late onset, I think, and delayed reaction to foods
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I don't generally see a late onset with Taffy, it looks like his onset is somewhere around the +2, if you look at some of his PS and then the +2, you will see that often, in an active cycle that is where you will see the drop as the insulin you have just shot starts to take effect, On a bounce cycle, he is staying flat.
When they clear a bounce all bets are off and you might see them dropping at a different point in the cycle with nadirs being earlier or even later than usual.

As for the food some cats are more carb sensitive than others, so if you find that he is not coming up quickly enough trying a little more carb and seeing how that goes might be worth a try, but I thought that yesterday morning he responded rather well to the food you gave him. George isn't hugely carb sensitive, when he dived hard and fast, particularly if it was early in the cycle and he dipped below 50, I would have to bring out the big guns 28%, and even then at times I had to add honey to that to steer him up. If I didn't the insulin got ahead of us and we spent hours trying to keep his numbers up. It was a fine line between too much carbs, I didn't want to send him to the moon (and the 28% gave him soft poo) but at the same time hours of fighting numbers in the 30 and 40s is no fun.:eek:

ETA congrats on the reduction.:D
 
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Wow, Taffy! Were you trying to get Mama to stay home with you today? Sorry, dude. Not this time. You did earn yourself some extra yummy food, though, huh? ;) Very funny. Let's not do that again.

Skipping was your only option, Julie. Good move.
 
Sienne and Gabby (GA) said:
It might have been informative if you had been able to sneak another test or two in to see where Taffy's numbers were headed.
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Yep, I'm learning! I had just assumed that he would not drop so drastically because of the unauthorized kibble yesterday, AND I have been so tired lately that I skipped a late night check or an early morning check. Now I know better. Never assume. Always get the checks in.
 
Kibble is always a wild card. Even with gravy or Karo, they can bring numbers up and then the numbers can plummet back down. (If you look at Gabby's SS, you'll see I learned this the hard way.)
 
Gill & George said:
I'm glad you skipped Julie. :eek:
That'll give the depot a chance to drain, and hopefully you'll have some calmer cycles until the depot builds on his new reduced dose.

That +2 being 80pts lower was Taffy giving you a heads up for more testing, bear that one in mind, though I think you already realized that.


I don't generally see a late onset with Taffy, it looks like his onset is somewhere around the +2, if you look at some of his PS and then the +2, you will see that often, in an active cycle that is where you will see the drop as the insulin you have just shot starts to take effect, On a bounce cycle, he is staying flat.
When they clear a bounce all bets are off and you might see them dropping at a different point in the cycle with nadirs being earlier or even later than usual.

As for the food some cats are more carb sensitive than others, so if you find that he is not coming up quickly enough trying a little more carb and seeing how that goes might be worth a try, but I thought that yesterday morning he responded rather well to the food you gave him. George isn't hugely carb sensitive, when he dived hard and fast, particularly if it was early in the cycle and he dipped below 50, I would have to bring out the big guns 28%, and even then at times I had to add honey to that to steer him up. If I didn't the insulin got ahead of us and we spent hours trying to keep his numbers up. It was a fine line between too much carbs, I didn't want to send him to the moon (and the 28% gave him soft poo) but at the same time hours of fighting numbers in the 30 and 40s is no fun.:eek:

ETA congrats on the reduction.:D
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OK, thanks. I do need help making sense out of Taffy's SS numbers and how to use it to predict what might happen.

What food was 28% carb?
 
Taffysmama said:
OK, thanks. I do need help making sense out of Taffy's SS numbers and how to use it to predict what might happen.

What food was 28% carb?
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I don't think it's available in US
It was Purina Gourmet Gold Meat chunks in sauce, I think it was the chicken and rabbit varieties that had the highest carb.
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???Question???
Since we skipped the morning shot, can I use this opportunity to move his time up more than 15 minutes, like and hour for example? I have been trying to creep him up to earlier but then we had a delayed shot recently and got our feeding/shot time too late.
 
OK, so what am I expecting after the skipped AM shot. Looking at Taffy's SS, the other times we skipped a shot he stayed high and slowly decreased throughout the following cycle. While the depot is refilling, is there still any chance of a big drop tonight? Or is that not possible until the next shot? Or, is anything possible?? Likely??
 
I am likely to pass out soon pretty hard due to the meds that I was given today for my eyes. With his depot drained, Is there any chance that Taffy could drop too low overnight?
 
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