Maji: Meter & Food testing OTJ

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  1. Magic Johnson

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    Hi guys, :bighug: I thought I would open up a thread here.

    ...currently on the 10th day no shot...
     
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  2. Sean & Rufus

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    Awesome! Rufus is on day 4.5 OTJ!
     
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  3. Magic Johnson

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    It’s exciting and scary at the same time!!!!

    I will start watching Rufus too :)

    WOW Rufus had a low nadir just like Maji did...

    We’re kinda in sync here :bighug:
     
  4. Sean & Rufus

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    It's very scary! Rufus will be starting some new meds soon, hopefully they work and won't raise his BG. If they don't work we might have to go on steroids which will raise his BG. I'd love for him to go into remission, but the other issues are more important I think.

    Good luck and go Maj!!
     
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  5. Magic Johnson

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    I will be joining you guys starting tomorrow Tuesday.

    Maji has completed the two weeks and the vet will get the spreadsheet and then she has a dental cleaning.

    I can't wait for a regular morning...where she wakes me up and licks my forehead to get me up to feed her.

    Keeping her on a strict diet and testing once per day, perhaps skip occasionally but I definitely don't want to leave it and have her glucose creep up.

    I even bought a freestyle meter and strips for hubby and I to test our blood.
     
  6. Sean & Rufus

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    Exciting!! Congratulations!!
     
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  7. Magic Johnson

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    Thank you!!!

    she's a lot slimmer now than when she was diagnosed. I have to keep her on a diet...otherwise she overeats, gains a lot of weight and goes into diabetes. Now on top of it...I can't give her any high carbo food of any type...she can only have low very low carb food.

    all wet food of course...hence we will have to go for dental cleanings probably once per year...
     
  8. Sean & Rufus

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    It's going to be a challenge in my house. Rufus is eating dry food again. His numbers aren't going too high though so that's good. I'll probably check his numbers once a day to make sure everything is ok!
     
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  9. Ang

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    How do you guys check BG once a day?
    When do you do that to have any idea that they are good?
    Isn't it like throwing a dart at the wall? IOW a good number doesn't mean he doesn't spike way higher an hour later, or 2 hours earlier?

    I am kicking myself for not testing Meow this past year unless I noticed an issue.... but would it really have told me anything valuable to have one number once a day?
     
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  10. Sean & Rufus

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    I plan on testing at different times. I think once a day is suffecient. It's all about data. If the one test is normal, great. If it's high, then I'm testing again tomorrow still. If it goes back to normal, then I know it was a food spike or stress or whatever. If it stays high then I'll know something is up.
     
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  11. Magic Johnson

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    Well I was doing twice a day just like I did when she was on insulin, testing right before feeding and then insulin (then we stopped insulin). But now that she has crossed the threshold of remission - I’m going to test maximum once per day I may skip a day or not, but I’m goung to do it like I had been - before feeding either morning or night....probably evening when I get home from work.

    But I may skip a day here and there IF she’s pretty static as she has been- if I get a high one I will test the next day or morning to make sure her body regulated it down... I don’t want her slowly getting higher And higher I’d rather catch it fast
     
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  12. Veronica & Babu-chiri

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    It's hard at the begining, is kind of scary not to test but I realized that it was really not that necesary except for my own peace of mind so I started testing first once a day and later every other day now I'm testing more o less once a week or if he's acting strange or if he has an infection ( then I test a lot more ) , so I guess if I get an slightly high number I'll start testing a lot more often, I try to test at the same times I usually tested that way at least I can kind of compare against the old data
     
  13. Sean & Rufus

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    I had my own issues yesterday. AM & PM tests were ok, but the tests in the middle were high. If I didn't test I would not have known that he got in the 200's. And I still can't get an answer as to if that is acceptable. It's a little high for my taste, but if he drops back into normal numbers is it ok then?
     
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  14. Magic Johnson

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    I’m no expert but if food is digested and glucose in the food enters the blood stream, and then the body releases insulin through the pancreas to guide the nutrition to the cells bringing the glucose level down - isn’t it kinda the same thing?

    However with insulin artificially replacing natural insulin released by the body - we are in effect doing the same thing but it would work different (in the opposite way) right?

    Would not the natural way be the body’s rise in glucose triggers a reaction from the pancreas to release more insulin to handle the load - if you will and then the body adjusts the glucose level downward? In the artificial replacement of insulin, we are doing it instead of the pancreas. So we introduce insulin into the body after feeding or when feeding either one of those will trigger a rise in blood glucose countered by the injected insulin. It then does what it’s supposed to do, bringing the glucose level down (providing nutrition and energy to cells) at its lowest point NADIR.

    BUT because the artificial replacement of insulin slowly washes out of the body and isn’t continually produced by the pancreas, the glucose level begins to rise again because the body is not able to automatically manage the natural release of insulin. Whereupon once again before or during feeding we artificially introduce insulin to maintain glucose levels just after feeding otherwise it would continue to rise?

    Dunno... these are just my thoughts...

    I would be happy to be corrected... as I don’t really know it just seemed logical to me...
     
  15. Magic Johnson

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    OK - used antibiotics after her tooth extraction and so did not test blood sugar during this time (giving her antibiotics is harder than testing the ear). Last use of antibiotics this morning.

    Tested ear this evening 118

    Formally OTJ - but will test occasionally to make sure we are not going back into diabetes. Tried Ziwipeak wet food the rabbit and lamb and she loves it.
     
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  16. Magic Johnson

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    Doing good - testing three different foods. first one is ziwipeak rabbit and lamb & also trying the venison PMPS after 3 days is at 89

    Testing feline natural chicken and lamb....will test after 3 days or so...

    Still OTJ and off antibiotics
     
  17. Magic Johnson

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    Tested Maji tonight 1 hour early at 5pm AlphaTrak = 92
    FreeStyle lite = 62

    I had such a big blood bubble...I just had to test and compare the TWO BG meters! 30 pts apart.

    The Feline Natural Chicken and Lamb wet food she just begs for...she loves it and ZiwiPeak. Now the real question is: Is it the food these last two test times? OR is the fact she had a dental and a tooth was pulled?

    I would have to go back to FF to really test that hypothesis...
     
  18. Magic Johnson

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    @Sean & Rufus
    How is Rufus doing? I checked SS. You are also on AlphaTrak 2 as we are. I happened to get a Freestyle lite to test my blood and thought why not try Maji’s? I’d compare the two results from same blood drop and there was a 30 pt difference - both monitors are spot on. But it also means (basically) that if we had been using the freestyle Majis numbers woulda looked better. Not knocking using human meters understand totally strip pricing et al, but Rufus looks good I think...

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ad...s/what-is-normal-blood-glucose-range-pets/amp

    Article stated this:
    “chemistry analyzer lists a normal range of 70 to 150 for cats”. This would be based on pet meter of course :)
     
  19. Sean & Rufus

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    Did you try the freestlye strip in the alphatrak? That's how I am using them.

    Rufus is ok. His numbers are higher then I'd like, but no insulin. We've got some others issues that we are trying to figure out and work on. It's 2 step forward, 1 step back :(
     
  20. Magic Johnson

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    Oh no, I used the AlphaTrak strips in the alphatrak and the freestyle ones in the freestyle. I was trying to assess the differences in measurement of BG

    It sounds like you’re making progress tho?
     
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  21. Sean & Rufus

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    Making progress with the diabetes part, but were still having issues with nausea and trouble with him eating novel diet. We started Atopica, which is a potent drug, but haven't seen results from it yet. I think we getting there, just really slowly :)
     

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