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Discussion in 'Feline Health - (Welcome & Main Forum)' started by Kiersten, Jan 15, 2020.

  1. Kiersten

    Kiersten New Member

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    I am having this problem too. The vet mentioned Symogi Effect and tonight after another 3 hour panic session, I'm convinced that's what's happening. My gorl starts looking like she feels bad around 200 because she is usually in mid 400's in the morning, and sometimes the meter just says HI at supper, which I think is 500's. She doesn't curve the next day during day, drops at night. She almost tanked Sunday afternoon so here we are again.

    Her dx was August 5 2019 so we're still working on it.

    I'm getting my numbers from a Freestyle Libre 14 Day reader and sensor. I go to my vet and they apply the sensor which holds about 1 week, as apposed to vet office 5 poke curve. I can scan every 5 minute is I want!! It's a blessing and a curse. She's had it since last Friday and I've been up to 2 am at least 3 nights. I look and feel like a zombie. I also have a Contour Next but I just can't get the ear stick down yet. My sister is a human Type 1 diabetic and she said she does not trust the continuous monitoring because the numbers are all over the place and frequently don't match finger stick numbers.

    I pay $125 when I have the sensor put on. They loan me a meter. The meter and sensors require Rx. Vet advises I can buy my own meter for about $80 and then they will charge me $70 to apply sensor, or she can give me Rx for that too and show me how to apply. Not sure I can do that though. I priced a kit with a meter and 2 sensors at $214 on some supply site. Just FYI for those curious about cost. For in house curve I pay $100.

    With this meter, you can upload data and print to see actual curve since it records data continuously. You just have to make sure to scan every 8 hours at least or it starts to overwrite date. You can even remotely send data to vet. Though I will likely visit in the morning because I can't live in this panic anymore. I fell like she may tank while I'm at work Thursday if she follows the Symogi curve like she has been. I plan to only give 3u in the morning and then see what dr says. I'd rather only do 2 but ...

    She had the sensor last from Dec 18-26 and on Dec 23, she tanked to >40 during the day so vet changed her from Prozinc to Vetsulin. 1st impression is I don't like Vetsulin but I think we are still dosing to high at 4u. She only got as far as 77 tonight but like I said, she starts to get worrisome at 200ish, so I did a little karo to stop the freefall and she ate a little food from my hand and then I got her to eat a little more in abut 45 mins. Plus about 10 treats in between. At 9:15pm she was 253, 10pm = 156, 11pm = 77, 11:30 = 84, 12:15am = 119, 1:20am = 198, and now at 2:15am it's flown to 300.

    Man I hate this, but it's got to be rebound. Sunday when she was slipping at 94 around 11am, I only gave her a little food and a few treats because we had to leave for a couple hours, and she was back to 326 by food time at 6pm. I waited until 12:30p when she was back to 112 and trending upward before leaving.

    She hates me when I give her shots now. I was doing so much better 3 months ago. I wasn't sweating it before but now I am
     

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  2. Wendy&Neko

    Wendy&Neko Senior Member Moderator

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    Hello Kiersten - I moved your post on another thread to start one just for you.

    Can you tell me a bit more about your kitty. What is her name? What type of food are you feeding her?

    We do have a few people here who have some experience with the Libre. Testing with a meter is a lot cheaper so people usually use the Libre just for short term.

    Prozinc is a better insulin for cats that is Vetsulin. If your cat went below 40, it doesn't mean you need to change types of insulin, it means you need to lower the dose being given. My kitty was on Caninsulin at first (It's called Vetsulin in the US), I didn't like it and neither did my cat. It sounds like your dose is a bit high. Are you using syringes to give the shot?
     
  3. Larry and Kitties

    Larry and Kitties Well-Known Member

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    The Libre sensor can be read with :
    The FreeStyle LibreLink app is compatible with NFC-enabled smartphones running Android OS 5.0 or higher and iPhone 7 or later running iOS 11 or later. Use of the FreeStyle LibreLink app requires registration with LibreView, a service provided by Abbott and Newyu, Inc.
    https://www.freestylelibre.us/

    I used my iPhone X. It is better than the dedicated reader since the phone will automatically upload date to the LibreView website where you can view data and do other things with the data.
    I just priced 2 Libre sensors using https://www.goodrx.com/freestyle-libre and it is $116 for two sensors. The vet helped me attach the first one. I subsequently attached three other myself with hwlp. You need to shave the are when the sensor is going to be applied. I also used veterinary tissue glue to help attach the sensor. I purchased the glue on Amazon.

    The following is my writeup on attaching and using the sensor the first time.
    http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/results-of-using-libre-on-my-badger.212928/
     
  4. Kiersten

    Kiersten New Member

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    This is second time using sensor. I uploaded and printed my data and took with me today.
    My phone is not compatible with the app.
    I also think I want to go back to Prozinc. Lowering dose to 3 units for 5 days at least. My regular doc was sick today so I spoke to the owner of the Vet Hospital and he said I should call back and talk to regular doc tomorrow - she's actually a surgical specialist but she's the one who brought the libre to the practice.
    I do use syringes - 29 gauge U40 Monoject
    Since she didn't actually go below 70 last night Dr Tim wasn't alarmed, but she was miserable so that's why I'm concerned.
    When she went below 40, I think I was on 4.5U. Started at 2, went to 4, then to 6, back down to 3, back to 4, then to 4.5. And now 4. Well, 3 technically
     

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