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Discussion in 'Feline Health - (Welcome & Main Forum)' started by April and Smokey, Sep 15, 2015.

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  1. April and Smokey

    April and Smokey Member

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    Hello! My name is April and I have a 13 year old Siamese boy, who I adore!! I received the confirmation last night - that he is diabetic. He has been losing body mass but not actual weight. He has still had a great appetite and has acted the same as always. I was referred to this board by a FB group that has already helped me to relax a bit. Looking forward to getting to know people and more about this disease.
     
  2. Larry and Kitties

    Larry and Kitties Well-Known Member

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    Welcome.
    Good insulin are the human Lantus and Levemir and the pet insulins ProZinc and BCP PZI. For those two human insulin it is best to get the 5 pack of 3 ml disposable pens via a 10 ml vial. Although per ml the vial is less expensive most cats will not use up a 10 ml vial before the insulin goes bad/becomes ineffective. The human insulin N/NPH is sometimes prescribed but only lasts 8-10 hours. Same for the pet insulin Vetsulin/Caninisulin.
    Most of us here test or cats blood glucose at home using a human meter. We test before each shot and periodically between shots. We record our reading and other info in a spreadsheet. See:http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...te-a-ss-and-link-it-in-your-signature.130337/
    What are you feeding? A low-carb canned is best. No reason for a prescription food. Here is a list of commercial low-carb cannedhttp://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/shortcut-shopping-list-all-8-or-less-updated.117688/

    Here is a link to home testing blood sugarshttp://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/hometesting-links-and-tips.287/
     
  3. Chris & China (GA)

    Chris & China (GA) Well-Known Member

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    Hi April and Welcome to the FDMB!! The best place you never wanted to be!!

    You've already gotten a lot of advice from the Facebook group on diet ....the sooner you get Smokey off of all the dry food, the better and doing it before starting insulin is the safest time to do it! Some cats can drop 100 points or more just by getting the dry out of their diet.

    Next is insulin....Lantus, Levemir and ProZinc are the 3 most common insulins that work well in cats. If your vet wants you to use something else, its probably a good idea to find a new vet. Vetsulin/caninsulin seem to be favorites among vets, but they don't work well in cats! They are harsh insulins that can drop the blood glucose quickly and then wear off too soon, so they're really hard to get good results with.

    Home testing is very important too. The more knowledge you have against this disease, the better results you get, and testing gives you that knowledge. It lets you know exactly how your kitty is responding to treatment. Tests done at the vets office aren't very reliable because of the stress involved in vet visits. It raises the blood glucose and then your cat comes home, his blood glucose comes back down and if your vet told you to increase insulin based on the artificially inflated number at the office, you end up with a kitty in trouble at home.

    Here's a "Getting Started Shopping List":

    1. Blood glucose meter. The Walmart Relion Confirm or Micro. (about $15) These are the best choice until the ears "learn to bleed"...then the Relion Prime is the cheapest one for replacement strips. The Confirm and Micro take the smallest sample size...the Prime take a little bigger sample.

    If you are in Canada, and can get to a WalMart regularly (or have friends/family that can ship you supplies if you need them), the Relion meters are great. I think the Bayer Contour or One Touch are other favorites of the Canadians in the group

    2. Matching strips (about $19 for 50, $36 for 100) Prime strips are $9 for 50. Will vary depending on what meter you end up using. Using the Contour or One Touch, check Amazon/Ebay for better prices

    3. Lancets - little sticks to poke the ear to get blood . new members usually start with a larger gauge lancet such as 28g or 29g until the ear learns to bleed. Optional - lancing tool. (about $8 for lancets, $5 for lancing tool ...not required if you can freehand poke)

    4. Cotton balls/cosmetic pads to stem the blood

    5. Neosporin or Polysporin ointment with pain relief to heal the wound (ointment ONLY...no cream)

    6. Mini flashlight (optional) - useful to help see the ear veins in dark cats, and to press against

    7. Ketone urine test strips..ketostix (urine only) or ketodiastix (test urine and blood but more expensive and unnecessary if you're already testing BG) - Important to check ketones when blood is high

    8. Sharps container - to dispose of wasted syringes and lancets. (or needle clipper)

    9. Treats for the cat - like freeze dried chicken

    10. Karo syrup/corn syrup or honey if you dont have it at home - for hypo emergencies to bring blood sugar up fast

    11. A couple of cans of fancy feast gravy lovers or other high carb gravy food- for hypo emergencies to bring blood sugar up fast

    12. Syringes (If using a U100 insulin like Lantus or Levemir or willing to use a conversion chart with U40 insulin like ProZinc or Vetsulin)

    IMPORTANT that you get syringes with half unit markings! 30 or 31 gauge, 3/10cc insulin syringes....All the WalMart Relion 3/10cc syringes have half unit markings

    Don't want to overwhelm you with too much info, but feel free to ask any questions you have! The people here are great about helping new sugarcat moms and dads learn everything they need to know!
     
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