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  1. Donna F

    Donna F New Member

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    my 6 yr old cat just diagnosed I'm at wits end, very nervous
     
  2. Chris & China (GA)

    Chris & China (GA) Well-Known Member

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    Hi Donna and Welcome to the FDMB!! This is the best place you never wanted to be if you have a diabetic kitty!

    Let me start with some basics:
    There are three key factors to managing diabetes: food/nutrition, home testing and insulin

    1) Feline Nutrition: Now, as far as diet - definitely dump the dry food (if you are feeding any) and if the vet recommends purchasing prescription food like DM just say "no thank you". ALL cats, and especially those with diabetes, do best on a species appropriate diet that is high in protein and low in carbs. Dry food DOES NOT fit that bill and DM food, even canned, just really isn't that great as far as quality. Most here on FDMB feed low carb/high protein canned, raw bought from a pet store or they make their own.

    Here is a link to a site by a vet "Dr. Lisa DVM" ... who also posts on this board from time to time ... http://www.catinfo.org

    If you look on the right side of her site, she has a food comparison chart to help you figure out what food you want to get based on the carb %.

    You want to keep the carb % below 10% and around 7% is great. (Personally, I stay between 0-6% carbs.)

    While on her site, you can read about in-depth info. on nutrition and how to make raw food, etc.

    Here is another link that will give more information about food/nutrition

    http://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=115
    The good thing with feeding your diabetic cat this way, is that it is ALSO good for any non-diabetic cat too. All your cats can safely eat the same food without worry and it may save you some costs and headaches of having to do separate feedings and keeping track of what they are eating.

    2. Home testing: It is impossible to convey the value of testing your cat's BG (blood glucose) level at home. Some vets will "suggest" this, but most won't even mention it. They will send you home with insulin and an amount to shoot and maybe some instructions about hypoglycemia (blood sugar dropping to a dangerously low level).

    Well, the thing is, human diabetics don't EVER give themselves insulin without checking their BG to make sure it is safe to do so, so why shouldn't it be the same for our kitties. Here on FDMB it is. You will notice that the vast majority of people here test their cat's BG at least 2x/day (before giving each shot to make sure the level is safe enough) and periodically at other times to see how the cat is responding to the current dose. We use a human glucometer, test strips and lancets - which are all very readily available and easy to use.

    Our kitties get lots of love and treats for "putting up" with this and most of them actually come out to be tested on their own 'cause they want those treats . Here is a collection of great links that "Carolyn and Spot" pulled together about home testing. See what you think ... it truly is the best way to not only keep your cat safe but also really get a handle on this disease and help him to live a healthy life with FD (feline diabetes).
    http://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=287
    3. Insulin: There are several types of insulin available. The top three we recommend are Lantus, Levimer or Prozinc all are great insulins. They are gentle insulin and given twice (BID) per day in 12 hour increments.

    Please read up on the insulins available, here is a link to the Insulin Support Groups:

    http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/#insulin-support-groups-isg.34

    However, one caveat and again this shows how these three things are inter-related:

    If you are feeding dry food or even a high carb food, BEFORE removing these foods, please make sure of your insulin dose as it will most likely need to be reduced, so as to avoid a possible hypoglycemic situation due to the removal of the dry/high carb foods that will lower the BG’s and reduce the amount of insulin required. Again, another reason why home testing is important.

    I know this all seems like a lot, and that is because it is ... there is a learning curve here. But as long as you are determined and keep at it, you will have it down before you know it and you'll be seeing the results in your cat's overall health and happiness. Ask all the questions you can think of – that is why we are here!

    Now, you can do this on a budget. Here is a shopping to get started:

    1. Meter ie Walmart Relion Confirm or Micro*
    2. Matching strips
    3. Lancets - little sticks to poke the ear to get blood . new members usually start with a larger gauge lancet such as 28g or 29g until the ear learns to bleed. Optional - lancing tool.
    4. Neosporin or Polysporin ointment with pain relief to heal the wound (can use generic brand)
    5. Mini flashlight (optional) - useful to help see the ear veins in dark cats, and to press against
    7. Ketone urine test strips ie ketodiastix - Important to check ketones when blood is high
    8. Treats for the cat - like freeze dried chicken, even rotisserie chicken, deli chicken, canned tuna will work
    9. Karo syrup/table syrup, honey or any sugar product like jam, jelly, etc. if you dont have it at home - for hypo emergencies to bring blood sugar up fast -
    10. A couple of cans of fancy feast gravy lovers or other high carb gravy food- for hypo emergencies to bring blood sugar up fast


    • We suggest the Relion meter and matching strips from Walmart, as they are the most economically priced meter and strips. That is assuming you have a Walmart nearby. If not, then you can purchase any human glucometer except for Freestyle with butterfly strips or any meter with TRU in the name. People have had issues in the past with these meters and best to start off with something else.


    Here is a link to questions that you can ask any vet:

    http://www.indulgedfurries.com/petdiabetes/diabetes_questions.htm

    Additionally, once you have the supplies or most of them, we can certainly help you get started, monitor and manage your cats diabetes without a vet. Of course, it's always a good idea to have a relationship with a vet too.


    OK, that's enough for the moment. What questions do you have?
     
  3. Elizabeth and Bertie

    Elizabeth and Bertie Well-Known Member

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    Hello Donna, and Donna's supersweet kitty,

    Warm welcome to FDMB :bighug:

    A diagnosis of feline diabetes can come as a big shock. But please know that everyone here has been where you are right now, and understands exactly how you feel.

    6yrs is quite young to become diabetic.
    Has your kitty had any steroid treatment recently?

    Big reassuring hug to you,

    Eliz
     
  4. Donna F

    Donna F New Member

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    no steroids, she has been fine for the 5 yrs I have her. She is a rescue. She only gets 1 shot a day. 1 of whatever the measurement is. The lowest dose possible. The problem she does not have much of an appetite except of course the foods she used to eat especially her treats. Right now my vet said feed her anything that she will eat, She does eat deli turkey, but that does not have all the nutrients she needs. Tried fancy feast classics, no. Vet gave me DM, wet no way will she go near it
    I open 4=5 different types of food all day am at wits end. Any ideas in this area?
     
  5. phlika29

    phlika29 Well-Known Member

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    Oh dear the poor thing. I agree you need to get her to eat. Was she diagnosed with anything else at the same time.

    So she would eat her old food? Was it dry and now you want her to eat wet? A lot of cats don't like changing over it is a matter to trying various tricks

    http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/transitioning-your-cat-from-dry-to-wet-food.956/

    Do you think she could be nauseous at all? Does she lick her lips and sniff food but walk away, grind her teeth? If so you might want to ask the vet about trying an anti nausea medication such as ondansetron or cerenia.

    What insulin is she on?
     
  6. Critter Mom

    Critter Mom Well-Known Member

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    Hi Donna,

    How is your little one doing with eating?
     
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