? Smoky dropped from 185 to 47 BG

Smoky was 185 at PMPS and dropped to 47 at +3 after pm shot of 2 units of prozinc. Do I give Karo syrup, low carb, or high carb food? He has been doing well so this is a total shock

 

Have you rubbed some Karo syrup on his gums?

 

Not yet, he was hungry so I gave him a little gravy from some higher carb food

 

Also, when should I test him again ?

 

I would do some Karo. How long has it been?

 

15-20min from now. Every 15, I think. Don't feed a whole bunch, in case you need to give more in 15 to help keep the # rising.

 

@AZJenks

 

I tested him 20 minutes ago and got the BG of 47. I just gave him a little gravy so far.

 

I would test again. Have you given Karo?

 

@manxcat419

 

If he's eating, give him a couple of teaspoons of high carb gravy. Just the gravy part and test in 15 0r 20 minutes

 

He last ate 3 hours ago. I gave him a little Karo syrup a few minutes ago

 

Here's the link for how to treat:
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/how-to-treat-hypos-they-can-kill-print-this-out.15887/

How is he acting? Any symptoms?
I would retest before applying Karo to see if the gravy helped.

 

Sorry, I just saw that you gave HC gravy. Testing interval 15-20 minutes from then

 

Also, breathe stay calm. Retest and report back.
Don't go overboard with gravy or Karo. Just a little each time and retest.

 

47 on human or your pet meter?

 

47 on relion meter, human

 

I have the printout for link you suggested.
He is acting normal just seems a little hungry.

 

Any symptoms - mild or moderate?

 

Only symptom seems to be a little hungry.
He seemed kind of sleepy earlier. I'm getting ready to test again soon

 

Have you tested?

 

What the heck? now at 42
3.5 hrs after shot

 

Test again to double check.

 

If he's still 42 I would give a teaspoon of Karo

 

hm, the # went down a little.
Maybe put a little Karo on a little bit of HC gravy food?
Do you have a few pieces of dry food to offer? I gave 5 temptation treats to my cat when dealing with low #s.
Maybe a more "well-known member" can chime in too? Feed/Karo and retest in 15

Also, make sure large drop of blood for retest.

 

@billysmom (GA)

 

Nope it's 45 now. I have a little dry food I can give him.

 

@Marje and Gracie

 

Hello, I'm here. I never had to give insulin so I only know what I've seen others do. My take on it would be to give more karo and gravy and test in 15.

 

Dry food takes longer to kick in.

I'd suggest a bit more honey and gravy and retest again in 15.

What's easier on his allergies? The dry or the gravy?

 

Me too. I wouldn't give dry food

 

I would get some Karo. He's been in the 40's for an hour.

 

40's are still safe....we just want to get them back above 50 as soon as possible (without sending them to the moon)

A couple of drops of Karo/syrup/honey or a couple of teaspoons of HC gravy are best.....and testing every 15 minutes is really overkill unless they're REALLY low....it takes 20-30 minutes for the food to get broken down and into the bloodstream

If they're in the 20's or 30's, yes, you want to test more often just to make sure they're not continuing to drop, but you do have to give them a little time to come up

 

I just gave him a little Karo mixed in with high carb gravy and will check him again soon

 

Thanks Chris, I thought checking him about every 30 min wld be good.

 

Thank you Chris n China! Every time buzz or Woody would hypo they would be in the 20 and 30's.

 

What was his last test result and how long ago was it? If he's been in the 40s for an hour now I would definitely start giving him some Karo, maybe mix it with a little gravy if he will eat it that way.

 

Thanks for helping out @Red & Rover (GA) and @Chris & China

 

Thanks to all. I'm not familiar with vetsulin. Just reading up on it. Initial drop, then sustained - is that right?

 

Checked him about 20 minutes ago and it was 45. He eats the Karo mixed in with the gravy. He could have waited until Sat night when I didn't have to get up early for work the next day.

 

That's right but smoky is on prozinc

 

He was 42 25 minutes ago and 45 15 minutes. He was 45 at +3.5 which was about an hour ago.

 

They always throw us a curve ball, lol

 

Sorry, gapped. Note to self - read entire signature.

 

Oh mom.....now what fun would that be???

 

I thought it was vetsulin too. :/

 

There's another one heading down on the Lantus forum.

Edited to add link: http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/30-12-glen-pmps-205-2-45.170462/

 

Getting ready to check smoky again

 

That wouldn't be cat style!!!

 

Sure hope they don't come in 3's!!

 

95 at 4.5 hours after pm shot

 

When are kitties considered out of danger zone? Is it so long after food is given? I know BG going up is food influenced at first.

 

No food or syrup, test in 20 minutes. They honey, syrup wears off fast.

 

He started on vetsulin and I just changed him to prozinc recently.

 

You need to have at least two more tests showing his numbers are rising before you can consider him safe.

 

It had been about 20 to 25 minutes after food and Karo when I tested him last. That's when I got the BG OF 95

 

Without food, syrup influence.

 

I can't stay up another hour or two, have to get up in 5 hours to go to work.

 

I like to say it this way....Once they're above 50, test in 30 minutes....if they're still above 50, test again in 30 minutes....if they're still OK at that point, test 1 more time an hour later (for a total of 2 hours after the last time you gave HC food or Karo)

If they drop below 50 again at any time, that 2 hour "clock" starts over

 

Will you wake up to an alarm? You could take a nap

 

Can you set alarms to test? That's what I used to do.

 

The 95 was when he didn't have any food or Karo for 25 minutes.

 

I could try it, I'm a light sleeper

 

My problem is that once I'm awake I can't go back to sleep

 

Set a couple of alarms...stove, phone, alarm clock, timer on your computer, etc. lol

 

We actually sleep in 45 minute cycles.....so if you can sleep for 45 full minutes, you will have completed a full sleep cycle....so napping helps a LOT!!

 

I understand that, but just resting will help. I doubt if you'd be able to fall asleep knowing he needs tested.

 

I'd give him a little more gravy (like a small baby spoonful) and some regular food.....test again in 45-an hour....if he's still OK at that point, I think you'd be good for the rest of the night

 

I gave him a spoonful of gravy 10 min ago, will set my alarm an hour from now

 

I'd go ahead and give him a little of his regular low carb too

 

Wow - sorry...only just saw that I'd been tagged. I got my hand just about ripped apart by Roxi because she didn't want to be tested, so I was away from the computer for a bit! I'm glad to see you were in very safe hands and you've got Smoky back into the safe zone.

 

Also sorry......how weird....I was on the board today but just got the notification tag.

 

Keep in mind ProZinc usually peaks at +6 but can be later with a dose that is "too big".

 

Thanks everyone for all your help.
I woke up and checked Smoky at +8 after pm shot. His BG was 182, have to get up for work in two hours. going to try to get more sleep

 

I slept right thru my two am alarm.

 

Just an update for Smoky, AMPS 262, not unexpected since he dropped so low last night. I need some advice on what dose to give, definitely don't want to give 2 units after the bounce this morning.

 

I'm too new so not comfortable giving dosing advice. How soon is shot time?

 

5 min, @Kris & Teasel is helping me out with dose.

 

OK GREAT!!!!

 

Great job everyone! (And great catch, Lisa!)




Mogs
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Very impressive mobilization of the Forces of Good for Kitties! What ever would we do without FDMB??

 

The Force is strong in this place.




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I hope your hand is ok!

 

I've had smoky get me pretty good.

 

Yes, too bad they come armed with needle-like sabres!

 

Our main vet has a scar from a swipe Saoirse gave him some time last year!

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Years ago I had a big male kitty who hated being put in a carrier. I took him to the vet to be neutered, and as I was leaving I suggested to them that they might want to put him back in his carrier before all the sedation had completely worn off; they very huffily advised me that they knew what they were doing and would not have any problems getting him back in his carrier. Fast forward a few hours to when I got there to pick him up - the vet and all the techs were wearing bandages and looks of chagrin, lol!

 

It's a lot better this morning, thank you. I have a couple of bandages on it, but fortunately it doesn't look as though it's going to need medical attention.

That happened to me with Rosa when she was quite young. I'd held her while they sedated her (for X-Rays) and they were certain they would be able to handle her after she woke up. When I got there to pick her up later on, they asked me if I'd like to go back to the recovery area and get her out of the kennel myself because none of them dared touch her. The really funny thing was that Rosa was all noise - she never once actually hurt anyone, but she knew how to make them all believe she might!

 

Smoky at 228 for PMPS, gave reduced dose for am. Any ideas on what dose to give tonight?

 

I made a suggestion on your other thread.