? What would you give?

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  1. JanetNJ

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    So cc surprised us this morning with a 198. We've been stalling and are now an hour passed shot time and she's 177!! Why she couldn't do this during Christmas break I don't know. I'm home for another 45 min. What would you give?
     
  2. JanetNJ

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    Ok an hour and a half part shot time she's now 266
     
  3. Kris & Teasel

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    I see you reduced her dose. So hard to know how much to reduce. How are you feeling about her progress tight now?
     
  4. JanetNJ

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    If I was home I may have done more but I get nervous when she alone. She surprises us sometimes which makes it hard to predict. If the dose wasnt enough then I can shoot her early because she got it an hour late
     
  5. Rachel

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    Hey Janet! Sorry I think I was heading out the door when you posted. I think your choice was fine. Looks like it worked out fine as she was in a nice yellow at PMPS!
     
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  7. Kris & Teasel

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    Woo hoo! Those are very nice! :smuggrin:
     
  8. JanetNJ

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    Crazy that 10 units only brought her to mid blues but nice even day.
     
  9. Rachel

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    Ohhhh look at those pretty colors for today! I LOVE it!
     
  10. JanetNJ

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    @Kris & Teasel and @Rachel and anyone else interested....

    Tested her this morning. 83! Thought ok must have been a small sample or it was off because the insulinx strip is way expired.... So tested a bigger drop with an Alphatrak strip. 84!!! Wow! Where did this come from. Obviously have to stall. I'm home until about 7:30 which is two more hours.
     
  11. Rachel

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    WHOA! I did not see that one coming!!!!
     
  12. JanetNJ

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    Me either. She had good numbers yesterday. Tested her at +4 last night @192 which was good... Not a number that made me think she was going too low. Then this morning what a shock! Stick around.... Not sure what I should do later. She never seems to throw these curve balls when I'm home.
     
  13. JanetNJ

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    Ok just stalled 30 min and she's 72

    Edited to add... Stalled 60 min and she's at 94
     
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  14. JanetNJ

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    Ok at a 90 min stall she's 105. Skip or give just a tiny dose? I leave in 15 min
     
  15. Rachel

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    That’s a tough one...I’d be tempted to give a teeny dose like 0.25 or so maybe. She eats fine? Can you leave food out? Is your partner there to keep an eye out today?
     
  16. Kris & Teasel

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    She's on a high dose so a tiny dose could be a unit or 2.
     
  17. Rachel

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    Very true.
     
  18. JanetNJ

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    I did 1. I figure if she's high later I will be shooting early to get her back on schedule. How exciting!!!! I wish she did this the week I was off though. Lol
     
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    Yes she eats great. I fed her and there's lots of food down. I stalled so long the others thought they weren't getting fed and gave up and went for a nap. Ha She was the only one there eating. Lol. No one is home today.
     
  20. Kris & Teasel

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    Sometimes ProZinc seems to have a bit of a "depot" like effect from extended duration so dropping the dose can help to reduce after a low PS.
     
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  21. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    WOW! What a shocker. It's too bad our kitties have such bad timing to throw those gorgeous but scary low BGs. With big gulpers, it's sometimes easier to think in terms of % reduction when they pull these tricks. While I know full well I would have skinnied up the dose as you did today if unable to monitor, if CC throws low numbers like that when you can monitor a bit more, I'd try a 25 or 50% reduction to see what she does so you'll know the next time you can't monitor how she reacts. You don't want to lose progress and CC is definitely looking much better these days.
     
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  22. Djamila

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    When you get a low PS like that, stalling will rarely raise the number enough by itself. You have to use Kris' technique of feeding first and then monitoring the food spike until it's high enough to shoot something. Then maybe go with a BCS (usually about half of the regular dose) instead of a token dose. It's best to try it out on a weekend if CC would be kind enough to give you a green PS on a Saturday ;). Prozinc will sometimes give nice overlap as Kris said, but it's usually petered out around +14 and you'll start to see the rise at that point. Doesn't help if you need to leave though. :rolleyes:
     
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  23. JanetNJ

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    She's feeling better too. If I was home I might have tried 4-5 but just couldn't take the chance with no one being there. I'll be home part of the day tomorrow because of a dr appointment
     
  24. JanetNJ

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    Talk to the cat. I was home 11 days that she could have pulled this. No, she waited until in back to work.
     
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  25. JanetNJ

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    What do you guys think I should do tonight?
     
  26. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    Have you set any specific BG at which you give C.C. a reduction in dose? Sometimes with the big gulpers, instead of waiting for them to get all the way down to 68 using L&L TR procotol and because their reactions can be a bit erratic (like you need to be told that:p:woot:) folks do reductions at a slightly higher BG. So if you normally reduce when C.C. she gets to 90 for instance, raise that up a bit to 100 or 110. Given that 84 this morning, and knowing you can monitor part of tomorrow, I'd probably take her back to 9.5u barring a lower than expected BG at PMPS.
     
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  27. JanetNJ

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    I have no set anything. I'm winging this with the help of you kind folks. Lol I can reduce
     
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    338 tonight. Not terrible. Was 280 an hour ago.
     
  29. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    Given that very small dose this morning, that is a very encouraging PMPS. Go C.C. :D
     
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  30. JanetNJ

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    She's acting like she feels good. Not sure what changed.
     
  31. Rachel

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    That's awesome with that small dose today!!!!!
     
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  32. Djamila

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    LOL....of course she did. She's a cat! :cat::cat::cat: Bless their furry little hearts, they do like messing with us! It's nice to hear that she's feeling good!
     
  33. JanetNJ

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    Had a surprising 79 at +11! I hope she wasn't too low today. Maybe stick with 9? I thought 9.5 would be safe today with a preshot in the 300's.
     
  34. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    Looks like C.C. may have bounced from that blue yesterday or a lower reading later in last night's cycle and has cleared the bounce quickly. I'd hold judgement until you see what she is doing at pre-shot. If she's heading up, then yes I'd probably go with 9u. If she's holding steady or lower, that's a different story and would depend on how much monitoring you can or want to do tonight.
     
  35. JanetNJ

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    She's 122 at shot time
     
  36. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    I'd go for the 9u as long as you can monitor her tonight. She heading up and better to catch her now with a full dose than reduce excessively and then have her skyrocket. If you decide monitoring is not your thing tonight, (and we all have those nights ;)) I wouldn't reduce more than 25%, say to 7u roughly.
     
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  37. JanetNJ

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    I cut the difference and did 8
     
  38. Djamila

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    Next time she does that you can also try stalling for a bit. Or since she's long term, you could feed-and-stall if you needed to to get her up enough. That way you can avoid having to reduce the dose as much and keep her on track. Since Prozinc has a little play and CC is usually high at shot time, you most likely be able to keep your normal morning schedule. Of course now that I've said that she'll give you a green AMPS ;)
     
  39. JanetNJ

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    I'll keep that in mind. The problem with stalling at night makes it hard for me to test v because I'm not a night person and staying up past 10 is hard because I'm usually awake by 4. Plus the last two days have been super stressful. My partner and son were in a car accident yesterday (they are OK....) then I was called by my in laws to take father in law to the hospital...... Then they called again at 4:30 am this morning and my partner brought him to the hospital... A full day of professional development and curriculum writing.... I literally just feel asleep for a half hour at 7. Oh and I learned on Wed I am very anemic (knew that already from on of CC'S meters but it was confirmed) and learned ill probably need major surgery in the next few months and need to schedule a biopsy. Good times. BUT everyone is ok... Cc is doing well... And it's a 3 day weekend. :). Soooo my point is I reduced cuz I'm going to attempt to sleep.
     
  40. JanetNJ

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    Ok so she's 56. So guys I'll be up for a while anyway. Start the coffee.
     
  41. JanetNJ

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    Yikes... Down to 46. Wish I gave less. Ugh poor girl. She's acting ok thankfully
     
  42. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    Oh man! They really do have bad timing don't they?! ?. Seems C.C. is on some kind of mission right now. That is totally unexpected. I thought she'd likely bounce a bit. Get the big guns out and give her some high carb food to bump her up.
     
  43. JanetNJ

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    Yep she's purring happy as a clam eating gravy and party mix. Meanwhile im not nearly so happy
     
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  44. JanetNJ

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    Whew up to 68@3.25
     
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  45. Jenna Josie

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    Trying to figure out the time difference . . . is that 67 @ 4.5 (from your SS) just a few minutes ago?
     
  46. JanetNJ

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    At hour 5 and she's at 71 with a little bit of ongoing food suport. I'll check again in a half hour
     
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    I'm on eastern standard time. Yes 4.5 was a little over a half hour ago... I just took a reading at +5 (10:50 pm) and she was 71
     
  48. Jenna Josie

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    That's great -- looks like she's holding steady for you (with the food, of course). Good news!
     
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  49. JanetNJ

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    Yeah so far sailing. Glad it's the weekend. I didn't give any food at +5. Wanna see if she can maintain on her own now
     
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  50. Djamila

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    Yikes you have a lot going on in your life right now! Sending you vines...
     
  51. JanetNJ

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    Been a stressful week but lots to be thankful for.

    No one was hurt in the accident and the other guys insurance should cover it.

    I have medical things going on but I feel ok, have good insurance, and lots of sick days saved up if I need to take a couple months off.

    My partner had the flu last week and my son and I didn't get it. Knock on wood.

    Father in law is ok... Just needs to follow through with an oral surgeon.

    And cc will have her preshot averages for the week in the yellows this week for the first time since MAY!!!!!! SO EXCITING.
     
  52. JanetNJ

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    Bummer. Dropped to 62. Guess I'm up at least another half hour. Glad I got that cat nap in.
     
  53. Jenna Josie

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    Agreed, bummer! But that was with no food support, right, and your SS suggests her nadir is soon, so hopefully she's nearly out of the woods and you can get some sleep.
     
  54. JanetNJ

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    She's up to 85 now at +6 so I'm calling it quits. There's some food down if she wants it. :)
     
  55. Jenna Josie

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    Excellent! Hope you have a great sleep. :)
     
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  56. JanetNJ

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    Huge bounce this morning. Not surprising. Lol. But for the first time since may she had an am preshot average under 300!!!
     
  57. Kris & Teasel

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    Sending calming energy your way, Janet. You have an awful lot on your plate ... :(:bighug:
     
  58. JanetNJ

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    Thanks... It's all good. :) But I'll take the virtual hug
     
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  59. Rachel

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    Wow Janet...you have so much going on right now! Yes, plenty to be thankful for, but that doesn't mean it isn't kind of stressful still. Sending you plenty of :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  60. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    More hugs from here too! :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
    I think C.C. knows green numbers make you happy......she just needs to learn better timing for their delivery. :rolleyes:
     
  61. JanetNJ

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    And to stay green without gravy and kibble
     
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  62. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    She was definitely too dramatic for anyone's liking last night but she's still re-learning how to do green.;) Thank goodness you knocked the dose down a bit.
     
  63. JanetNJ

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    Bounce cleared... Nice numbers today. Glad I lowered to 9 today.
     
  64. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    I'm liking that little green number! :D
     
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