5/15 Atlas PMPS 187, +1.5 267 (Primal response)

Yesterday's Condo

Well, tenacious I am:

Beth,

Thank you for the email.

The nutritional levels posted on our website are derived from both a USDA database analysis and chemical analysis of our products.

The Feline Formulas are developed as high protein/low carbohydrate diets specifically for the nutritional needs of Felines.

The Feline Rabbit diet does contain squash, blueberries and cranberries as the primary sources of carbohydrates in this particular diet. These ingredients may be causing the spike in your cats blood glucose levels.

Although the canned diet you refer to is 8-10% carbohydrates, you must take into consideration what sources provide the carbohydrates in the diet and the glucose content of these specific ingredients.

Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance.

Best Regards,

Matt

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Matt Koss
Founder, President
Primal Pet Foods

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Are those foods he listed...spikey carbs? I have to go find that study I posted over in the think tank, but I don't think these foods were part of the carb. study. Two fruits would be spikey, right? I don't know about the squash? And if it supposed to only be 1% carb.... grr_red?

Ugh!!!! I hate trying to understand nutrition and now, now how to get the old NV Rabbit consistently?

Primal:
Whole Rabbit, Organic Collard Greens, Organic Squash, Organic Celery, Cranberries, Blueberries, Organic Pumpkin Seeds, Organic Sunflower Seeds, Organic Trace Minerals, Almonds, Organic Apple Cider Vinegar, Sardine Oil, Taurine, Organic Quinoa Sprout Powder, Spirulina, Organic Cilantro, Organic Coconut Oil, Cod Liver Oil, Organic Ginger, Mixed Tocopherols (Source of Vitamin E).


Nature's Variety:
Rabbit, Pork Fat, Raw Ground Rabbit Bone, Pork Liver, Pork Heart, Apples, Carrots, Butternut Squash, Ground Flaxseeds, Montmorillonite Clay, Broccoli, Lettuce, Spinach, Dried Kelp, Apple Cider Vinegar, Parsley, Honey, Salmon Oil, Olive Oil, Blueberries, Alfalfa Sprouts, Persimmons, Inulin, Rosemary, Sage, Clove

Well, FWIW, here's what's in Wellness Chicken (4% carb):
Chicken, Chicken Liver, Turkey, Chicken Broth, Carrots, Natural Chicken Flavor, Sweet Potatoes, Squash, Zucchini, Cranberries, Blueberries, Guar Gum, Dicalcium Phosphate, Carrageenan, Ground Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride, Calcium Carbonate, Taurine, Iron Proteinate (a source of Chelated Iron), Beta-Carotene, Zinc Proteinate (a source of Chelated Zinc), Vitamin E Supplement, Choline Chloride, Cobalt Proteinate (a source of Chelated Cobalt), Thiamine Mononitrate, Copper Proteinate (a source of Chelated Copper), Folic Acid, Manganese Proteinate (a source of Chelated Manganese), Niacin, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Sodium Selenite, Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Potassium Iodide, Biotin.

There are obviously things other than chicken in Wellness. At one point, I read a comment on Dr. Lisa's website about canned foods such as Wellness. She made the point that there can't be very much of the veggies and fruits if the carb level is that low.

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That is SO not what I expected this condo to be about!

Sienne and Gabby said:

There are obviously things other than chicken in Wellness. At one point, I read a comment on Dr. Lisa's website about canned foods such as Wellness. She made the point that there can't be very much of the veggies and fruits if the carb level is that low.

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That is what I THOUGHT, but what about in a RAW diet? The squash #3 and blueberries and cranberries are #4 and #5.

Verses in the Nature's Variety...#8 and #21?

Edit: That is why I wrote them about their claim of 1% carbs. with Attie's wonky numbers.

Well anyway I can't get the NV Rabbit and I did check my email, I started to question this way back in Feb. when I inquired with NV as to when the rabbit would be available. Ugh!!!

So I did find Hare Today and I can order the ground rabbit by the pound, but I need to add supplements to make it feline fine and healthy. I also am looking at Feline's Pride, which will work out to be nearly $100 per month... I don't even spend that much on my own food. :-|

mybuddybinks said:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That is SO not what I expected this condo to be about!

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Now Celi, you know better!!! My condos are known to go off on tangents....

My guys liked the Feline's Pride. The cost on the food wasn't too bad. The shipping was a fortune! I started making my own but the pre-mix I was using is no longer available.