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ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Heather & Seasaidh (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 06:31AM
Seasaidh is one of them! Former dry food addict. When I switched his diet to totally low carb/high protein canned only food he was off insulin in two weeks.
I think some new people here need to see this roll call thread.
Heather & Seasaidh
Heather & Seasaidh (GA), & civvies Spiruleţ (pron "Speeroolayts" and formerly known as Oliver), Pumpkin, Ronan, Dubhagan, Honey, and Delilah
Shess dx'd 12-29-04, h*n*ym**ning since 5-19-05, was on Humulin U. FIV+, Hyperthyroid dx'd 4-08, Primary Lung Carcinoma dx'd 8-19-09 My precious baby died in my arms 9-29-09
Seasaidh's death notice [www.felinediabetes.com]
Shess' poem to me (thru AC) [www.felinediabetes.com]
Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Lisa & Owen (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 06:34AM
Owen was off the insulin for six months when I switched him from dry to canned food (Wellness). I think he may need dental work and that may be why his numbers have crept up.
Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Venita and Maxwell (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 06:53AM
I put Max on EVO the day he was DX in July 2005. He was a lifelong dry food eater. Slowly transitioned him to wet, and took all dry away on November 6, 2005. Last shot was 12/31/05.
Probably did not really need to shoot him the last couple weeks in December.
Made a believer out of me. But I also have seen other people completely remove the dry, and it hasn't worked for them. I count us among the fortunate.
All Newbies...remember...you are not just feeding a pancreas!
Posted by: Lisa dvm (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 07:41AM
This is a great thread to point out the fact that people have a pretty good chance of getting their cats off of insulin if they stop feeding dry food and, instead, feed a low carb canned food diet.
As we all know, not all cats get off of insulin once put on an appropriate diet but their insulin needs will certainly decrease once the human stops pouring gasoline (carbs) on their wildfire (diabetes).
I do want to also point out to the newcomers on this board that we are NOT just feeding a pancreas. We are feeding a WHOLE cat and dry food is just simply not a healthy diet for an obligate carnivore.
Please remember to nourish the entire body and not get caught up only in the diabetic process.
Lisa, dvm
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Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Heather & Chico (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 08:01AM
Chico is one of them, too.
His last Lantus shot was 3/22 in the am.
This didn't occur until we stopped free feeding, took away the dry food, and began feeding only Wellness & Merrick.
The food change has improved his coat, too, which was always overly oily. Chico has dental problems and needs his teeth cleaned each year, and that was with the dry. I'm sure he will continue to need regular teeth cleaning.
Heather & Chico
Yes and No
Posted by: Karen & Rambo(GA) & Conan (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 08:02AM
Yes and no.
My first sugarcat, Rambo, was able to be diet controlled after removing the dry food from his diet.
But Conan developed diabetes two years later- after all cats were on low-carb canned food only. He was on insulin for several months and then was able to come off. I still consider him to be diet controlled, however, since his BGs shoot up if he gets into forbidden foods. So he is diet controlled now, but wasn't eating anything different when he developed FD.
Karen, and (GA) sugarcats Conan & Rambo
Grace's SS : [spreadsheets.google.com]
Neuropathy link: [www.felinediabetes.com]
Edited 1 times. Last edit at 03/30/06 08:03AM by Karen & Rambo(GA) & Conan.
Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Cindy and Patches (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 08:11AM
My cat Squirt never had to have insulin!!! We controled her issues with diet and still do. I am blessed with one of the few cats that showed immediate improvement with a diet change and continues to do so. All my cats are on FF and will be on the low carb/high protein diet forever!
This saved my cat's life and I am a big supporter!!! Please read my profile for details...
Cindy, Squirt, Patches, and Annabelle
The Girls in Tennessee!!!!
And Mr. Smokey Joe (GA) too!!!
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Squirt and Patches are diet controlled and were never on insulin. On a h*n*ym**n since Nov 2005. Annabelle is my only civie. Smokey Joe(GA) was adopted Nov 23, 2006. Had most of his teeth removed on 2/9/07... thanks to the kindness of FDMB!!!! Confirmed with pancreatitis on 1/11/08, but died from a gallstone on 01/26/08.
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Re: ROLL CALL - yes and no
Posted by: Maaryon (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 09:40AM
Topaz took a long time to react to the diet change. She was total dry food and changed overnight to wet but it took about six to nine months before her numbers stabilized long enough to remove the insulin.
Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: TROUBLELAURAK (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 09:43AM
Dry Evo (6 or 7% carbs) did it for Trouble. He's eating wet food now, but low carb is low carb, whether wet or dry. Wet food is better, but I think it is important for people to know that they can transition to low carb faster for difficult dry food addicts - just my two cents. Laura
Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Maja (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 10:04AM
Maja's never really eaten much dry food - she has a huge overbite and not many teeth, so she's always just eaten a few pieces. However, when the two other cats still used to have some dry food out for sake of peace and quiet in the the early morning and Maja ate a couple of pieces, her BG shot up to the late 300's/ early 400's.
Nowadays all three of them get canned low-carb only, noone eats any dry food, and despite that the two boys used to eat like 2/3 canned and 1/3 dry in the past, everyone is looking much better with canned low-carb only, shinier coats, noone's constipated and the two males have lost app 2 pounds each despite eating how much they want.
Nina and Maja
Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Cheryl & Tux (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 10:31AM
Cammie was on S/D dry (and Humulin L) at the shelter prior to coming home to us. She decided to switch to the canned food that I was feeding Tux on her own within two days of coming home. Cam's been off the insulin since August - I can only credit that to the change (and reduction in amount) of food.
Tux went on a two year hiatus from the insulin when I first changed her over to low-carb canned and is now on 2 units of Humulin U BID as opposed to the 5.5 units of Humulin U BID when she was eating dry.
Cheryl, Tux(GA) (November 1987 to September 19, 2007; diagnosed May 11, 1999. Cancer, not diabetes, took my demanding Princess from me) & Cammie (Age unknown but over 13 - diet controlled and now a "heart" kitty)
Edited 1 times. Last edit at 03/30/06 07:38PM by Cheryl & Tux.
Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: vic & sundance (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 10:56AM
Sundance was on insulin for only 10 days. On the 11th day, I hometested and found that she didn't need it - then or since.
She was diagnosed on Dec 20/05. They fed her dry at the vets but I switched her to wet on Xmas day. So, essentially 6 days after switching, she was insulin free.
Thanks to all of you here. Especially some of the oldies who have kept this wonderful site going for long enough for me to find. And to all the newer people who, although going through their own stuff, still managed to make time and compassion for me.
Victoria and Sundance (in spirit)
Adopted June 12, 1997. Dx December 20, 2005. Set free July 12, 2008
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Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Kris & Jane (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 11:07AM
count janie in! she always free-fed on purina cat chow. she was 500+ at diagnosis; two weeks of insulin, then at the urging of this board, i switched her to low-carb canned and she was off insulin within a couple of days. that was last august and she's still insulin-free!
Janie, preciousest of preciousnesses: Viva la diva!
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Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Steph & Cuddles (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 11:08AM
Yep! Switched to low carb wet, and Cuddles has been off insulin for over a year now! *knock on wood*
-Steph & Cuddles (GA) (19 yrs old, DX 5/30/02 3 units SID Humulin U until hypo/h*n*ym**n on 2/2/05 -
Also CRF as of 7/05 & giving 100ml sub-q every day // My baby lost her fight the night of 11/3/07)
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Both of mine did and a lot of UK cats whose care I have been involved with have.....
Posted by: Adrienne (UK) (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 11:10AM
My personal experience with FD cats in the UK has been that there was a much higher proportion becoming diet-controlled on low-carb food than seemed to be the case in the US. My theory is that this could be because substantially overweight cats seem to be much rarer in the UK than in the US - from this and other cat message boards I belong to it seems not at all unusual for cats in the US to be 18 pounds or more (very rare in the UK), and pictures I have seen posted of pets on other message boards are very, very frequently of cats that would be regarded as unusually chubby over here.
Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: MyRomeo (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 11:27AM
Romeo hasn't needed to have insulin in over 36 hours. He has remained mainly from 90-120 with one test of 70.
In the last 6 days he has only needed 0.5U three times.
Romeo ate Science Diet Light dry prior to his DX. For 2 weeks after his DX, he had a mix of the dry food and Fancy Feast wet food. For the last week he has been on only Fancy Feast wet food. What a difference!
Tracy & Romeo (DX 3-10-06)
Two, nearly three, here
Posted by: Lynette and Meow Meow (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 11:41AM
Meow Meow is off insulin since 1/1/05.
Ralph never went on insulin, tried diet change first and BG's were normal in two or three weeks
Latifah has gone from 3.0 units to 0.2 units... and I've got fingers, toes, eyes, legs, & arms crossed that we can go from 0.2 units to nothing with a little more patience.
Lynette
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Re: Two, nearly three, here
Posted by: Teddybear (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 11:52AM
Ted and Chuckie were on dry their whole lives,Ted was diagnosed and i switched both of them to wet.Ted was off the insulin after two weeks.Dry food will never pass there little lips again lol.
Trix and Teddy
TeddyBear.....11 year old fur baby diagnosed March 1st 2006.
Taking humulin N 1 units 2xday
FF low carb
Ted has not had an insulin shot since the morning of the 16th march 2006
Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Lisa and Merlyn (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 11:52AM
Merlyn did not go directly off insulin after taking away the dry but his insulin needs dropped from 1.75 units Lantus BID to half a unit BID in a month after no dry. 4 months later he went on his trip to the Falls!
I dont think that would have happened if he was on dry.
Lisa and Merlyn (in spirit)
Active on FDMB since 7/04 (est.) Caring for diabetic cat since 4/04.
Janeway , Conor , Merlyn , Carly , petfinder , Tabbys Place , Feline Minds ,
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Posted by: Holly and Maggie (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 12:13PM
When Maggie was diagnosed, I switched her from Science Diet Hairball Light dry food, the Lucky Charms of cat food, to half Purina DM dry and half Fancy Feast canned. She came off insulin within a month on that diet and I have since switched her to half canned and half Nature's Variety raw medallions.
Thanks for all the replies everyone
Posted by: Heather & Seasaidh (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 12:16PM
When I posted I just knew I was going to get a lot of different responses. But that's good!! Those of us who are lucky with our sugarcats on honeymoon need to remember that it might not last even if they're eating a good diet.
Just to add my two cents more... I tried almost everything with him to get him off insulin. He ate dry m/d for a while (which I know some cats have gotten off insulin with that) but it would only spike his bg even higher. I had to get him off dry food altogether somehow. It was tough, but we did it.
Shess' pancreas went overboard when I fed him Science Diet Sensitive Skin as my vet suggested for his skin allergies. I pray that he never needs to go back on insulin, and also for all of you who have achieved this too. And for people who are trying to get their cats regulated and off insulin, I wish you all the best of luck too.
This thread is honor of Shess' pal Charcoal.
Heather & Seasaidh
Heather & Seasaidh (GA), & civvies Spiruleţ (pron "Speeroolayts" and formerly known as Oliver), Pumpkin, Ronan, Dubhagan, Honey, and Delilah
Shess dx'd 12-29-04, h*n*ym**ning since 5-19-05, was on Humulin U. FIV+, Hyperthyroid dx'd 4-08, Primary Lung Carcinoma dx'd 8-19-09 My precious baby died in my arms 9-29-09
Seasaidh's death notice [www.felinediabetes.com]
Shess' poem to me (thru AC) [www.felinediabetes.com]
Re: Both of mine did and a lot of UK cats whose care I have been involved with have.....
Posted by: Mary,Jazz(GA),Katy(GA) and Bushey,too (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 12:30PM
Katy(GA) went into remission after six weeks or so of "wet" food.
As her medical history was never found, we do not know (but suspect) that she was steroid induced, so there is no proof that diet change cured her!
Mary(UK)
Another Yes and No :-)
Posted by: Jean & Muffin (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 01:01PM
Muffin switched to canned low-carb, started insulin and discontinued prednisone all at about the same time. He started packing right away, bought plane tickets, and went off insulin in about 6 weeks. By 8-9 weeks, he was comfortably ensconced in his suite at the Falls, sipping salmon brandy and playing shuffleboard (old guy!)
Jean & Muffin-in-Spirit...Forever young ~ 1987-2005 ~ Dx 6/03
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Very interesting Adrienne.....
Posted by: pamela and tigger (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 01:25PM
Would that be because they are outside more?
pamela and tigger
FDMB member since Tigger's DX Sept/03 - Tigger DOB 7/95 - Humulin U for 17 months, then switched to BCP PZI Jan/05, then to Levemir 1/09 - Dx'd with cholangiohepatitis 4/07. Diet - Feline's Pride raw food - [www.felinespride.com]
Tigger's Levemir spreadsheet
Princess is waving her paw
Posted by: Patricia and Princess (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 01:31PM
DX Dec. 22, 2005; diet change to DM for two days, then thanks to the FDMB, to all canned FF and Wellness.
Insulin through March 6, 2006.
Off insulin March 7 - approximately 8 weeks after diet change.
Patricia and Princess (currently diet controlled),
civies Eliot & Oscar, and the dogs Clancy & Mac
my much missed GA's ((Dylan)),((Jack)), ((Arthur)) and ((Sylvia))
Western NY State
Princess __ and __ Eliot__and___Oscar_____ Dylan(GA) & Jack(GA)
That's funny Jean...
Posted by: pamela and tigger (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 01:35PM
Salmon brandy?? yuck!
With Tigger his bg levels were greatly reduced when I FINALLY got rid of all the dry. It took me eight months. I really think if I had done it much sooner his chances of coming off insulin would have been much greater.
pamela and tigger
FDMB member since Tigger's DX Sept/03 - Tigger DOB 7/95 - Humulin U for 17 months, then switched to BCP PZI Jan/05, then to Levemir 1/09 - Dx'd with cholangiohepatitis 4/07. Diet - Feline's Pride raw food - [www.felinespride.com]
Tigger's Levemir spreadsheet
Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Jen & Squeak (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 02:28PM
I think for Squeak it was the combination of a food change AND insulin that worked. Without the insulin I'm not convinced his pancreas would have healed enough.
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ditto - combination of dry and insulin *NM*
Posted by: vic & sundance (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 02:41PM
so that's why.... OH BOY!!!!!
Posted by: Sadie & Pixie (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 04:27PM
Wow, so that is wht my Pixie's number shave dropped so radically in the last two weeks! I have had to reduce her insulin already, as she was acting a little hypo this week after her shots. We have switched to a diet of 1/3 Innova EVO dry and 2/3 FF.
So this can really happen to some cats? My vet swore she would be on insulin forever at a pretty high dose. ('Course she also insisted we fee DRY DM.) I am really excited now!!!!!
Bless everyone who has been telling us newbies to switch foods and hometest!!!!!!! I will keep testing and see if the transistion stops her need for the shots. She has not had one in 24 hours because of good numbers. YAY!!!!! Thanks!!!
Sadie & Pixie
Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Kristin and Winnie (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 05:10PM
Worked for us!
Re: Thanks for all the replies everyone
Posted by: Jean and Charcoal (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 05:21PM
Hi Heather and Shessie,
Would you be able to put a little tiny picture of Charcoal by your picture of Shess, Heather? I can send a small one, but I don't know how to do the editing right now, and I thought it might be nice if Shessie and Charcoal could sort of be "next to each other, as good friends"???
Thanks!
Jean and Charcoal
Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Cat and Sweet Max (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 05:26PM
When Buddy was diagnosed with diabetes last year. The vet said to immediately put him on insulin. We tried switching him to low carb Fancy Feast. His BGs have been normal since then. The vet still can't believe it.
I wish I had known the benefits of a low carb diet BEFORE my sweet boy Max was put on insulin. I truly believe it would have made a difference in his life.
Hugs, Headbutts, Happiness, and Healing!!
Cat and my very sweet boy Max
Jean, you read my mind!!
Posted by: Heather & Seasaidh (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 05:43PM
I wanted to do that actually! It'd be nice if you could do that too. I'll help you if you need some help.
Heather
Good point, Jen - Food change AND insulin - Glucose Toxicity
Posted by: Lisa dvm (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 06:25PM
Jen & Squeak Wrote:
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> I think for Squeak it was the combination of a
> food change AND insulin that worked. Without the
> insulin I'm not convinced his pancreas would have
> healed enough.
Lately I have been trying to type more about glucose toxicity. Elevated blood glucose is very hard on the body - most notably - the pancreas and kidneys. I think it is really important to get these newly diagnosed cats on insulin right away while implementing a diet change. Some of these cats may only need insulin for a few days or a week or two. One of my foster cats was returned to me as a diabetic. BGs over 500 and fructosamine over 600. Peeing and drinking huge amounts!! Within 3 days of a diet change to all canned Wellness - PLUS a bit of insulin - her bgs were 50-70 and she has remained insulin-free for the past 2 years. (She was only given 4 doses of insulin.)
The problem is that this method can be a bit complicated - and dangerous - for newbies who are not testing. A cat can become hypo very quickly if one is not careful to lower the insulin as the carbs are lowered.
Lisa, dvm
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Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: susan g and tiger (IP Logged)
Date: March 30, 2006 08:23PM
tiger is waving his tail, off insulin soon after diet change!!
susan g and tiger, tabby, julia, toothy GA,snowy GA, and mittens GA
Could be.... also, until comparatively recently people mostly fed wet
Posted by: Adrienne (UK) (IP Logged)
Date: March 31, 2006 04:45AM
but there is now huge promotion of dry food by Iams etc, not to mention vets selling Hill's and so forth, so that may change. After all, if you don't know what we do, a food that can be left out all day without deteriorating and which is often cheaper than wet is attractive - and the companies promote it as having lots of positive health benefits. If dry food does become much more popular here then we too may see a large increase in feline obesity.
roll call, add us....
Posted by: SweetGrass (IP Logged)
Date: April 2, 2006 11:11PM
Abby is another one who has become completely diet controlled. Once we officially took all dry away and I got over my fear of hypos's by experiencing and testing properly.... Abby went from getting 4 units caninsulin bid to no units of caninsulin over 8 days!
We are believers...no dry here!!!!!!!!It's been almost 3 weeks without insulin !
Thanks all you sparkling idividuals who made such a difference for us with your help!
Kimmee SweetGrass and Abby(GG): dx 01/10/06, diet controlled almost 3 years, got her wings ( non diabetic related) 11/14/08 at age 17
Abby GA, Niko, Sage, Flame, Nessa and Harlo.
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Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Jenny and Mrs Hippy (IP Logged)
Date: April 3, 2006 01:00AM
Add Mrs Hippy to the list! She has been off insulin since 11/05, and I am convinced that it never would have happened if she was still on dry W/D food. She's now on a homemade raw diet.
Also- she is symptom free of IBS- something she has struggled with her whole life. I think she's healthier at 13+ years than she has ever been her whole life! Also, she's lost weight, is lean and trim with great muscle tone. My vet always comments on just how great she looks!
And I have to give thanks to Dr Lisa- the wealth of information on her website, and she herself (on another board) for giving me the push to change her diet.
Edited 1 times. Last edit at 04/03/06 01:01AM by Jenny and Mrs Hippy.
Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Alysson & Sparky (IP Logged)
Date: September 28, 2006 02:55PM
I know this is late to the thread (by alot!) but i do know Dr. Lisa links to it so I wanted to add my support. I tried for over a year to regulate Sparky on dry W/D kibble with no good results. Up to 7u BID of PZI he was still having numbers in the 300s and 400s and very irratic curves.
I finally gave in and switched him to a low carb canned food diet (mostly friskies) and i saw results within a week. I had to keep reducing my dose (quickly at first, then a little slower) and eventually he needed no insulin at all! We are now happily on remission and I know this would have never happened if I had continued to feed the dry food.
Click on my name to see a summary of our BG numbers during the diet change!
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Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Jeff and Lava (IP Logged)
Date: December 21, 2006 01:53PM
I would like to add my experience. Our cat had a glucose level of over 400 and was showing major signs of diabetes. We took her off dry food, feeding her soley high protein, low carb wet food, and within 5 months her glucose level is 90: completely normal! We never had to give her insulin!
OFF INSULIN 3 YEARS NOW! NO DRY FOOD!!!!!
Posted by: Mimi & Betty in NH (IP Logged)
Date: March 20, 2007 02:19PM
Even prescription dry Purina DM - drove Betty's blood glucose sky high. Home testing became even more crucial when changing diet and eliminating dry - her insulin needs decreased as her BG #'s did. It was nothing short of amazing. Who knew?
Betty eats 4 little meals a day of mostly wheat-glucose-free Fancy Feast, along with home cooked plain fish, beef and chicken.
Mimi & Betty in NH
Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Linda and Arthur (IP Logged)
Date: June 19, 2007 07:38PM
Arthur and I would like to thank everyone for their input on this subject. It has certainly been a big eye opener for me. Now, if you will all excuse me, I am off to the pet store to get some wet food for Art!! MEOW!!! MEOW!!! MEOW!! and Thank you again!
Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Chairman Meow (IP Logged)
Date: July 24, 2007 10:03PM
Hi folks. I'm happy to note that after 10 months on insulin (much of it at three units twice a day) Chairman Meow is off insulin.
As soon as he was diagnosed, we switched him to Innova EVO, *dry* without grain, which we found on Janet and Binky's list. He's been off for over a month and holding steady.
This site and our vet were godsends.
Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Lisa dvm (IP Logged)
Date: July 25, 2007 03:15AM
Chairman Meow Wrote:
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> Hi folks. I'm happy to note that after 10 months
> on insulin (much of it at three units twice a day)
> Chairman Meow is off insulin.
>
> As soon as he was diagnosed, we switched him to
> Innova EVO, *dry* without grain,
I am happy to hear that he is off of insulin......now you really need to start thinking about proper nutrition for his *entire* body - not just his pancreas. I notice that many diabetic cat caregivers get tunnel vision with respect to the carb level of the foods they feed and they forget about the rest of the body.
Dry food is not a good diet to be feeding any cat. You are making it very difficult for his kidneys and bladder to stay healthy, not to mention the rest of his body. Chronic, low-level dehydration is not a 'friend' to the body. Please consider getting him on an appropriately hydrated food....ie...canned food.
Lisa, dvm
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Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: Barb and Sully (IP Logged)
Date: July 27, 2007 04:23PM
Hi. I'm new to this. But I've been reading everyones experiences with their cats coming off insulin. My 11 year old cat, Sully, was diagnosed last year and needs two shots a day. I really would love to get him off insulin so that I can live my life. Basically, to be able to go away for a weekend and not have to find someone to give him a needle. Just feed him (and the other cat,Sophie). I am really encouraged by everyones results and would like to know exactly what to do to get that. How do I know when he can come off the insulin? Do I need to take him to the vet first or what is the exact procedure? Also, what is a good canned food to give? How much etc? I understand in order to change you need to do it gradually with the dry. So any suggestions and help from anyone would be greatly appreciated. I love my cat and want to help him the best way possible. He also needs to lose weight and get that wonderful shine in his coat again. Thanks and I look forward to hearing from anyone.
Barb
Re: ROLL CALL: How many cats here got off insulin when taken off dry food?
Posted by: SweetGrass (IP Logged)
Date: July 27, 2007 04:32PM
Hello...I would really encourage you to post this thread on the health forum..thi is an old post that gets very little traffic...
I will start it for you on health and link it back here...
There are many wonderful people who can help you with all your questions...welcome!
Kimmee SweetGrass and Abby(GG): dx 01/10/06, diet controlled almost 3 years, got her wings ( non diabetic related) 11/14/08 at age 17
Abby GA, Niko, Sage, Flame, Nessa and Harlo.
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