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Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Sakura (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 02:34PM

My cat has been diagnosed with diabetes today. I'm very heart broken and stressed out right now. He's an older cat, 17 years old. He has a hyperactive thyroid, and now he has diabetes. He looks and seems fine, although he's drinking a lot of water. He throws up in the morning after he eats as well. I need to go back to the vet tomorrow where they'll show me how to inject the insulin into him and everything.

This has been extremely bad news for me. My cat is so special. He was born in our house the day before my 10th birthday. He was healthy all his life up until now. He used to go outside all the time, but not for a few years now because he's older. But one night he got outside chasing another male cat. He got so stressed out by it, and that's when the problems with his thyroid started. Up until now, he was doing well with his thyroid medication, then this horrible diabetes suddenly turned up.

I was planning to go to Japan early next year to become an English teacher, it was my dream for years, but now I've chosen to stay with my cat. It will require all my time now to take care of him, and if I were to leave, I don't have anyone who can take over the careful care giving he needs, not even my parents who are gone most of the day. So diabetes not only has messed up his life, it's messed up mine as well.

Even the vet was warning about the cost and time it will take to care for a diabetic cat. It was almost like she was suggesting I put him down instead. I can't do that. I love him far too much, and I truly believe that a pet should only be put down as a very last resort. I don't know how to cope with this, and it feels like my life has just ended. Can anyone give me suggestions on how to cope? Thank you.
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Cindy & Mousie et al (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 02:41PM

now now, just take a deep breath. life is not over, nor is your cat's life. smiling smiley

it is not expensive to treat for diabetes, once you get past the initial purchases. and the biggest money saver is to hometest your cat's blood glucose levels, just as a human diabetic does (see attached videos)
[www.youtube.com]
[s138.photobucket.com]

also, once you get the hang of it (testing & shooting), you will find that it only adds maybe 10-15 minutes to your regular daily routine, that's it.

others will be along with more info so i'll keep it short. just start reading and ask questions as you go along.




Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Maximillians Person (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 02:48PM

Your life and your cat's has changed a bit, but is by no means over.

As Cindy said, the initial costs are kind steep, but after that, food is my biggest expense.

What are you feeding your critter? Many (possibly most) feed regular old canned food from the store instead of more expensive (and likely inferior quality) prescription foods. Try to stick with 10% of the calories from carbs or less. A great resource is a list { [www.felinediabetes.com] } that a memeber here, Janet & Binky, compiled that lists the actual, as fed, nutritional values (more accurate than the guaranteed analysis numbers, in my opinion). That link also has links to several other sites that have great information about how to feed your diabetic (and even non-diabetic) cats.

Others will be along shortly, I'm sure with more information and encouragement than you thought possible. It will likely be a bit overwhelming at first, but just keep reading and asking questions and before long it will be like second nature!




I'm Donna The cats are:
Maxie: Striped extra-sweet guy.
Diagnosed May 11, 2006. Last shot was January 29, 2007. We used Novolin N.

Buddy
: long-haired all black civie
"If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under." ~Ronald Reagan


Maxie's Spreadsheet [spreadsheets.google.com]
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Cessans Mom (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 02:50PM

Hello, Welcome to the best place to be for a diabetic cat. I am really sick and my head is fuzz so I will let others tell you the good stuff. There are over 4000 world wide members here and we have all felt like you. First it will not be expensive and you should not use the "special" food the vet will tell you that is needed. The only thing special is it costs alot for low quality food. Go to the top of the page and click on Janet and Binky's square. Look at the food lists under canned and choose one that is high protein and under 10% carbs, Fish can be used as a treat but not daily food. Ok there one problem is solved.
If your boy is used to eating dry there is an article by Dr. Lisa on how to transition him to wet. I will put that link in for you.
Read the FAQ's and absorb the information. Home test and save lots of money as you don't have the vet doing it. There are so many ways to save money and in the end your cat is much better off. Many cats go off insulin in the first 2 or 3 months once they are on a good wet canned food. So maybe you still can go to Japan. Your folks can learn to home test him to spot check the blood glucose.
I am sure others have been posting while I sit here sneezing and coughing and typing slow.
You really will get so much help and you will not be sorry.
You are an excellent caregiver to be willing to do so much for your baby. That is something you will find here. We all understand.
Some borrow money for big illnesses some get a second job.
The only way the care will be expensive is if you let the vet do everything.
Glad you are here. Hugs and breathe in a month you will be here telling someone else that this is easy. Bonnie
edited to add links.
[www.catinfo.org]
This is written by Dr. Lisa a DVM
who posts on our board and is an
expert in cat diets.


[www.felinediabetes.com]
Choose a canned food high in protein and under 10% carb (not fish)

Great spot to see pictures and learn how to do blood tests
[www.sugarcats.net]

Read the FAQ's they have it all!

[www.youtube.com]

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Any advice or ideas I give are based strictly on my own experience or on what I have read on this FDMB. I am not a DVM just a cat mom who tries to study a lot for my girls care.

Bonnie and Cessan in Sweden
DX Dec 6th 2006
On Caninsulin 6U bid I dropped it to 3 and then to 1 within a couple days.
Was on high protein low carb wet from mid Dec and when taken off the 3TBLS dry a day she went off insulin. Her BG was bouncing from 3 to 20 ( Sweden ) and settled to 4.7 when taken off all dry. OTJ since Feb 2nd 2007.
I am checking the board everyday since Feb 1, 2007




GA



Edited 1 times. Last edit at 10/10/07 02:55PM by Cessans Mom.
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: TrixtersMommy (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 02:50PM

Awwww, Cindy is right. This is not something that will ruin your life. It is easily treatable and with hometesting you will have so much better control over it (and your sanity). What do you feed him? Info like this will help people here to help you better. I am so glad you found this community. You will see soon enough what a supportive and life saving place this really is! *HUGS* Try not to stress too much, it will be ok. Your very obvious love and dedication to your furbaby is a big step in this "sugar dance"!

Love,

& ~ Bobbi ~
Trixter is Insulin FREE since 8/11/06! IMOM, The FDMB, PZI Vet, home testing and diet change saved my baby! Thank you! <3
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Karen & Pearl (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 02:55PM

Please do look through the FAQs. This is overwhelming for the first month or two, but it IS doable. Where do you live right now? Maybe you can't go to Japan, but you may have other options there.

Hometesting is definitely the priciest part of diabetes BUT it is also the part that gives you much MUCH more control over the diabetes and will allow you to give the best care possible without so much worry. HOnestly, after you learn how to do it you will be SO glad.

Did you vet mention what insulin they are thinking of using?

Maybe someone is close enough to help you learn to test. Please don't despair. 17 is elderly, but if he is fairly healthy otherwise, this could really give you some extra quality time.

Karen & Pearl

Pearl's Levemir Spreadsheet


[pearlthediabeticcat.blogspot.com]

(new entry SEPTEMBER 29. AEROKAT DEMO added!)
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Julie and Homer (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 02:57PM

try not to worry too much. it's all manageable, really. it just takes time, education and patience. listen and read as much as you can. also, where are you located? there might be someone in the area who could help you. my sister-in-law teaches (private lessons) english in japan. my brother is in the military there.
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: VictorsMom (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 03:08PM

Welcome to the forums - you've definitely landed in the right place!

My cat is 15 and he also has diabetes and is hyper-T. Please try not to stress yourself out too much, because all this is manageable. The first few weeks are sooooo over-whelming, but soon it starts to make sense smiling smiley

Please do as others have suggested and read the FAQ at the top of this page. And by all means, feel free to ask questions - there is a ton of experience here and folks are always anxious to help you get off to a good start.



Victor (GA) and Victor's Mom
Civvies - male Flame Point Siamese and one female Pixie Bob




V-man: GA 06-20-09 at age 15+, diabetic, IBD, hyperthyroid, heart murmur, mild neuropathy.
Food: NV Raw Rabbit - (more for his worsening IBD than for FD)
dx 06-15-07 - Humulin N

Last shot 05-18-08 - and still off the juice when he passed to the Bridge on 06-20-09.
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Joan and Smokey (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 03:09PM

Hi there and welcome! My boy was diagnosed 3 weeks ago and I too was very stressed out and overwhelmed at the time, but I've gotten some great advice from the fine folks on this message board, and you will too! Just hang in there and know you're not alone!

It's very manageable and it certainly isn't the end of the world. It just puts a little crimp into your morning and evening plans. I think the ititial costs for testing are the biggest part of it, then once he's regulated, it shouldn't be bad at all.

You've come to the right place for help!
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Jen & Squeak (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 03:13PM

All I'll add is welcome, and ask whether if the diabetes is under control can't you take your cat with you to Japan? Take some time to do some reading and learn more about feline diabetes and how its very treatable.

Jen

**********************************************
Me: On the FDMB almost daily since December 2002.

Squeak:8 years old, on Humulin L for 3 months, off insulin since March 2003.

Our short list of favorite links for feline diabetes info (thanks to Robin for the idea):

FDMB FAQs ~ Pets with Diabetes ~ Gorbzilla.com ~ Binky's Page ~ Boo's Valley Sugarcats ~ Health Articles right here at Feline Diabetes ~ Pat's Post about Switching Diets ~ Feline Nutrition ~
Some questions for your vet
Posted by: Sue and Oliver (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 03:21PM

As others have said, once you get over the initial shock and sadness, you start to educate yourself and this becomes very doable.

You have already been given some great resources. Before your vet visit, print of the FAQ's at the top of the page and some of the other ones you want to remember. Put them in a 3 ring binder where you will be keeping all the info on your cat from now on. Be sure to bring home the numbers from the lab tests your kitty has been given.

Ask your vet what kind of insulin. The majority of people here use PZI or Lantus because it is usually easier to get a cat regulated on them. Humulin N is doable, but is fast acting and that is harder to deal with.

Ask if they will help you learn to hometest. If they can't, come back and we will. Think of it as if your cat were your child. You wouldn't just give her insulin and take her back to the doctor once a month; you would test before each shot so you know how much or little to give.

Take your copy of Janet and Binky's page (at the top of this page) to PetSmart and pick out food below 10% carbs with no gluten. If your vet wants to sell you expensive prescription food, don't. Trust us on this. We have lots of research, including articles by the vet who developed DM, that says that prescription food isn't necessary.

I know we are just people on the internet, but we care about cats. You can do this and we can help. You can have more quality years with your cat. We have!

-Sue and Oliver(GA)

Niko


Thanks for our friends at FDMB, Oliver was diet controlled until his death from heart disease in 2008. (PZI user, Fancy Feast eater, love PetSafe5 automatic feeder) We adopted Niko from the shelter later that year.
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Howdygirl (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 03:26PM

Your cat is very lucky to have you -- you are clearly very dedicated to giving him the best care possible. Please tell us your kitty's name, and your name also. You've already been told a lot of great info, so I'm going to concentrate on your appoinment with the vet tomorrow:

1) find out what type of insulin s/he is prescribing -- there are several. Knowing that will help everyone here help you. Prices of insulins vary.

2) The vet will VERY LIKELY prescribe a special diet that you can only buy from his office. It's not necessary to buy/feed this food. Many regular grocery store canned foods are cheaper and just as good - or better - for your cat. If it's difficult to refuse the food while you're there, just get it and return it (unopened) later. This will save you bunches of money in the long haul.

3) If the vet wants to keep your kitty overnight (or several days) to "regulate" him -- REFUSE! You can do the same blood testing at home, where your cat is relaxed, and save TONS of money over paying for an extended vet visit.

4) Find out what tests the vet did to diagnose the diabetes. Urine test? Blood test? Fructosamine? Get a copy of the lab report.

Giving the injections is a breeze - especially if you've got your cat's face planted in a bowl of yummy food while you do it!

We've all been in the place where you are now, and we can all promise that it gets easier and you'll be more relaxed. Your life is NOT over - and neither is the kitty's.

Let us know how it goes.



Nancy
Main person for Isabella(GA), a cute but cranky girl DX'd 9/28/06 ... GA 9/21/2008, a very sad day
blog: sweetisabella.blogspot.com


Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Sakura (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 03:31PM

Thank you so much to everyone who replied. Thank you for the information, and the support, both of which I need dearly right now. To answer some of the questions asked here, I live in Canada, and in the area I live in, specialists and people who know anything about feline diabetes is very limited. I need to rely on my vet, but I'm discouraged that she would be so grim about the situation because my cat is an older guy. He seems so healthy otherwise, but he does have a hyperactive thyroid. The medication he's on for that keeps it under control. He also has a heart mummer, but he's had it for many years, and is a symptom of his thyroid problem. So I suppose my vet was just being honest by combining all these problems, and his age. She probably thinks he doesn't have much longer. I don't want to think, or accept that.

Right now I'm feeding him Fancy Feast, all of which doesn't contain wheat glutton and are on the Janet and Binky's list. I've been feeding him it for years. I mix it with Whiskas dry food.

As for Japan, I was planning to leave early February, but I don't know how well things will be going for my kitty, though. I should be getting ready to go now, getting my visa, the flight tickets, a homestay family, but I can't concentrate on getting those things ready with my baby as sick as he is.

Julie and Homer, do you know which city your sister-in-law is working in? I had planned to teach children at a school in Tokyo or Chiba, but I don't have a job yet. It's difficult to be hired overseas, especially since I will be going on a Working Holiday Visa. I was just going to go there and find a job, and bring enough money to support me for a few months. But now I think I will be spending most of that money on medication and vet appointments, even if I do figure out that home testing, so even if I can convince my parents to take over for me, I won't have the funds anymore to go.

Where in canada?
Posted by: Jen & Squeak (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 03:37PM

There are many Canadians, me included, on the board.

Please note that treating diabetes doesn't have to be expensive, you may still be able to afford to go.

Jen

**********************************************
Me: On the FDMB almost daily since December 2002.

Squeak:8 years old, on Humulin L for 3 months, off insulin since March 2003.

Our short list of favorite links for feline diabetes info (thanks to Robin for the idea):

FDMB FAQs ~ Pets with Diabetes ~ Gorbzilla.com ~ Binky's Page ~ Boo's Valley Sugarcats ~ Health Articles right here at Feline Diabetes ~ Pat's Post about Switching Diets ~ Feline Nutrition ~
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Karen & Pearl (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 03:39PM

HOnestly it should not take anywhere NEAR that amount of money to get started with diabetes treatment! Don't let them talk you into "keeping him a few days for a curve". Instead, go buy a glucometer at the drugstore and testing strips. Visit Pearl's blog below. All the hometesting video links are off to the side. You can do that even before your next vet visit. It takes a little bit to get comfortable with it sometimes, but you can do it. The only thing not mentioned in the videos is new cats, you kind of have to warm the ear up a bit, say 30 seconds, with a very warm rice sock (put raw rice in the toe of a sock and tie it off, warm in microwave) or damp cloth in a plastic baggie warmed in the microwave. It helps the ear bleed at first.

Really, it is not THAT expensive! Hopefully they are going to use an insulin like PZI or lantus. Its just a little easier to work with than others.

Take it a step at a time.

Karen & Pearl

Pearl's Levemir Spreadsheet


[pearlthediabeticcat.blogspot.com]

(new entry SEPTEMBER 29. AEROKAT DEMO added!)
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Sakura (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 03:43PM

Thank you everyone.

My cat's name is Sylvester (after Sylvester and Tweety.)

The vet didn't tell me which insulin she would be prescribing yet. She said it would only cost about $10 a month.

I think Sylvester's diet is fine now with Fancy Food canned, and Whiskas dry. At least I hope so.

I would like to do the blood testing at home since my cat gets so stressed out everytime I bring him to the vet. I'll ask my vet about it tomorrow. The hardest part for me is to give him needles. I know he's going to react badly, and it's just scary to do, even if he's distracted. Especially that I can't stand needles. I'm the most worried about doing that part right now.

The diabetes was diagnosed with a blood test today.






Re: Where in canada?
Posted by: Sakura (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 03:45PM

Manitoba, Canada. I live in a small town, and we only have 2 vets, one generally treats farm animals only.
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Julie and Homer (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 03:48PM

my brother and sister in law live at camp zama (military place) which is 25 miles southwest of tokyo, but it takes about 3 hours to get there because of so much traffic. i don't know the city name where they live but will try to get it. they have lived there for a few years and gosia is from poland but speaks german, english and now japanese so she teaches kids and adults i think in their home like a private tutor.
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Karen & Pearl (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 03:58PM

Get the smallest guage needles possible and it will not be bad at all. Most of them barely notice it.

Karen & Pearl

Pearl's Levemir Spreadsheet


[pearlthediabeticcat.blogspot.com]

(new entry SEPTEMBER 29. AEROKAT DEMO added!)
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: TrixtersMommy (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 04:00PM

Sakura,

I know how you're feeling about the shots, but I promise you that the anticipation is the worst part. I, too, am afraid of needles and never in my wildest dreams did i think I could ever give a shot to anyone, let alone my Trixter. But once I gave that first shot I was so relieved at how easy it really is! The needles are SO tiny, Trixter didn't even feel it!

About the dry food you mix into the Fancy feast. Dry is very high in carbs and will cause a rise in blood sugar. Check out this very informative website about feline nutrition for a more detailed explanation: www.catinfo.org

You will do just fine!

Love,

& ~ Bobbi ~
Trixter is Insulin FREE since 8/11/06! IMOM, The FDMB, PZI Vet, home testing and diet change saved my baby! Thank you! <3
Re: Where in canada?
Posted by: Jen & Squeak (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 04:04PM

Sakura, I'm originally from Manitoba. Perhaps I might be able to help.

A couple of things..

My hubby and I are needle phobes but we learned very quickly that giving insulin is easy, you just grab some scruff and shoot and the cat hardly ever feels it. Even hometesting was waaaayyyy easier than I expected.

We have LOTS of information for you should you have difficulties with your vet. And please note that not many vets know that hometesting is valid AND endorsed by the Canadian Veterinary Association!

Jen

**********************************************
Me: On the FDMB almost daily since December 2002.

Squeak:8 years old, on Humulin L for 3 months, off insulin since March 2003.

Our short list of favorite links for feline diabetes info (thanks to Robin for the idea):

FDMB FAQs ~ Pets with Diabetes ~ Gorbzilla.com ~ Binky's Page ~ Boo's Valley Sugarcats ~ Health Articles right here at Feline Diabetes ~ Pat's Post about Switching Diets ~ Feline Nutrition ~
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: SqueeM3 (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 04:05PM

Sakura Wrote:
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> Even the vet was warning about the cost and time
> it will take to care for a diabetic cat.

Here is a list of ways you can keep the diabetes costs manageable and places where you can apply for help withi vet bills if needed: [www.felinediabetes.com]



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Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Laur and Danny (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 04:06PM

Hello and welcome.

I will not try to reiterate the good advice you've been given. Just -- you definitely could still go to Japan. You have plenty of time to work on getting your cat's diabetes under control, but you now have a worldwide support network!! The diagnosis seems overwhelming now, especially with your vet's negative attitude, but soon you will be competent with this very treatable disease.

The main things you should be taking away from the discussions:

1. No more dry food. Stick with the low carb wet.

2. Hometesting is really essential. There's a learning curve but we will make sure you can do it. We can give you advice on where to get cheap materials (meter, strips, etc.)

3. Get a long acting insulin such as PZI or Lantus. Do not settle for N; it's possible to regulate your cat on it, but it's harder. If cost is an issue, I believe BCP PZI is the cheapest -- it's what I use and it's very good!

4. We've all been where you are. We WILL help you, night or day. You will be amazed at the expertise and knowledge people are happy to share.

best wishes,
laur



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Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Vanassa and China (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 04:09PM

I agree with everyone here. My baby was diagnosed 3 months ago and although he is not regulated yet, it gets easier. When I first picked up the insulin, I cried from the time I picked it up until I got home! I even paced the floor after I filled the syringe because I hate needles and I never thought I would be able to do it! Now, my life has changed, but I kind of take it all in stride. I know that I can't just go out after work, I have to go home first, give China his shot and then leave back out. It becomes routine and it get's easier!! I think we are down to about 15 minutes tops with our routine! It is scary at first, but as someone mentioned earlier, you will be on here in a few weeks telling another newbie about your experience in the beginning! Welcome aboard, and enjoy the ride!
One blood test is not a good indicator for FD
Posted by: tuckers mom (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 04:18PM

Hi and welcome. I'm sorry that this is so stressful for you know.

One bloodtest alone does not always mean FD. A urine test to see if glucose is spilling into the urine should be done.

Can you tell us what the Blood Glucose was?

Many cats get stressed at the vets office and the BG will raise just from the stress.

Also, underlying causes can cause the BGs to go up such as an infection.

Jennifer


Tucker DX 9/05, IBD/Pancreatitis - Remission 6/24/06; 8/7/07 FD again
Sadie (GA) adopted 2/21/06, previously DX - passed peacefully on 9/15/07 from CHF
Misty (GA) adopted 4/11/06, previously DX - passed peacefully on 2/6/09 possibly from cancer or fatty liver


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Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Lisa and Witn (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 04:25PM

Welcome to the list. Take a deep breath and relax. We are here to help you get through this.

Many of us have older cats that have been diagnosed with diabetes. Like you, my cat is 17 years young and was diagnosed a few months ago.

The initial costs can be expensive, however there are ways to reduce it. As you have already read, you do not need special diabetic cat food. Besides that, most cats quit eating it soon after you start feeding it to them. Janet & Binky's Food List will be very helpful for you to determine what to feed your cat. [www.felinediabetes.com]. Many of us feed our cats either Fancy Feast or Friskies canned food. If your cat is currently eating dry food though, you should start switching him over to canned. That alone can significally help control the diabetes.

If your vet can start your cat on PZI, here is a link where he can order a free full-size sample bottle for you. [www.bcpvetpharm.com] My cat is not on PZI, so I can't tell you how long of a shelf life the bottle will last, but if it is similar to Lantus, you can get several weeks or months out of a bottle. That will also save you some money.

Please plan to learn to home test. Besides the fact it can save your cat's life by preventing a hypo, it will also help you so you can do your own curves instead of having to constantly take your cat in to the vet to have it done. Your vet will probably have you leave your cat for a couple days for the initial curve, but after that if you are home testing, that should not be necessary unless there is a problem.

For testing equipment, you will use the same meter a diabetic person would use. There are many brands out there, but the strips are what will drive the cost up. I don't know if there are any Walmarts in your area, but their ReliOn brand meter is very economical to use. Store brand meters are usually made by the same companies that makes the "name brand" meters, so the quality will be the same.

Read through the various information you will find on this site. It is a lot, but you don't have to try to absorb it all at once. If you have any questions or concerns, please don't be afraid to ask. We have all been through this and you will get a lot of support and good advice. We have members all over the world on this site so it does not matter whether it is day or night, someone is usually online to help.

Lisa, Witn and Spot



Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Sakura (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 05:13PM

Thanks, I feel slightly better about the needles now.

Should I stop giving him dry and only give him canned food from now on?
Yes, stop the dry
Posted by: patticass & Tyler (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 05:16PM

It's not a good diet for any cat, especially a diabetic.

Have a good read here: [www.catinfo.org]

You may also want to share it with your vet.
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Sakura (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 05:17PM

Thanks so much. I may still go to Japan, but I also think I need to postpone now. Schools only start in April there, so hopefully I'll have a lot of time. I'll also take the dry out of Sylvester's diet, and hopefully he'll stop bringing up every morning.
Re: One blood test is not a good indicator for FD
Posted by: Sakura (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 05:22PM

No, the vet didn't tell me what the glucose level was.

He does have some symptoms of FD like drinking an excessive amount of water. I will ask tomorrow what the results of the test were, and if they could do a urine test to make sure.
Re: One blood test is not a good indicator for FD
Posted by: patticass & Tyler (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 05:24PM

You could go out and get yourself a meter and test yourself tonight before going in. It's a good way to check without the stress of the vet which could artificially raise the number.
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Sakura (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 05:24PM

Thank you for the information. I'm pretty nervous to do the home testing thing, but I will try it if it helps my kitty and reduces costs.
Re: One blood test is not a good indicator for FD
Posted by: Sakura (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 05:26PM

I need to take him to the vet tomorrow anyway, but I could maybe do it when I get back and he's not so stressed out.
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: patticass & Tyler (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 05:27PM

Sakura Wrote:
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> Thank you for the information. I'm pretty nervous
> to do the home testing thing, but I will try it if
> it helps my kitty and reduces costs.


I was nervous, too, but I'm a control freak so I wanted to KNOW what was going on. smiling smiley I live alone and had to tackle it by myself but we got there. Now my kitty runs to the test spot when I take out the supplies because he knows he will get a treat.


"If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning."


Tyler (left) was diagnosed 3/11/06, diet controlled and OTJ 3/31/06 and passed away on 3/4/09; his daughter, Fallon, age 13, (right) and his dad, Justin, age 16 in his blanket cave


Where are you in Manitoba?
Posted by: Cathy, Sonny & Spike(GA) (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 05:29PM

I'm in Winnipeg....maybe I can be of some help smiling smiley

Cathy and Sonny

Diagnosed: January 4, 2001

Current insulin/dose: Levemir/1.5u BID with R on an as needed basis



“Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened.”
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Jen & Squeak (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 05:30PM

Definitely take this one step at a time and you may be amazed and how different things look in a few months.

Good luck (and let us know what town you are in, even if just via private message).

Jen

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Me: On the FDMB almost daily since December 2002.

Squeak:8 years old, on Humulin L for 3 months, off insulin since March 2003.

Our short list of favorite links for feline diabetes info (thanks to Robin for the idea):

FDMB FAQs ~ Pets with Diabetes ~ Gorbzilla.com ~ Binky's Page ~ Boo's Valley Sugarcats ~ Health Articles right here at Feline Diabetes ~ Pat's Post about Switching Diets ~ Feline Nutrition ~
puking?? Try metoclopramide (ask vet) / Pill Pockets
Posted by: Laur and Danny (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 05:47PM

If you are having problems with your cat puking, I recommend you ask your vet about using metoclopramide (also called reglan or pepcid) to see if it's appropriate, and what does you should give. My Danny is puking lately so he gets it three times a day. It seems to help a lot.

There's also mirtazapine which both treats nausea and boosts appetite, which I haven't tried yet but should be picking up this Friday.

You may be thinking, oh it's so hard to give pills though. There's a solution!! Check into something called Pill Pockets. These are little dough like treats which have a hole in them; you stick the pill in and then pinch it closed. These are a life saver if your cat needs medicine. This morning Danny and the Plague were actually shouldering each other aside to get at their pocketed medicine. LOL! You can buy at Petsmart or just google to buy online. There is chicken and also salmon flavor. Every one of my 6 cats LOVE them and would gladly eat them just as a treat.

hope this helps!!

laur


~ Zollidoot ~:~ Minibeast ~:~ Plague ~:~:~ Leland ~:~:~ Danny ~:~:~ Cocofang ~:~:~ The Pearl ~ Pierre (missing) ~ Cole

Danny's pix / Cole's pix / Rest of gang's pix
Cole's BG spreadsheet Cole has acromegaly and insulin resistance, so she needs larger amounts of insulin.
Re: puking?? Try metoclopramide (ask vet) / Pill Pockets
Posted by: Sakura (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 06:10PM

I think I used to give that to Sylvester. It was in liquid form, though, and pretty sticky. I would use a syringe and squirt it on top of his food. It helped a bit, but because it wasn't his main problem, it didn't work entirely. That was about the time when he was diagnosed with a hyperactive thyroid, and that was what was making him throw up. I don't know why he's throwing up now, though. I didn't see anywhere that puking was a symptom of diabetes, and his thyroid is under control now.



Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Sakura (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 06:12PM

The vet told me that I would have to give him 2 needles a day for the rest of his life. But if his blood sugar is closer to normal I won't have to give him shots?
Re: Where are you in Manitoba?
Posted by: Sakura (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 06:13PM

Wow, you're close! I'm in Steinbach! smiling smiley
Re: Where are you in Manitoba?
Posted by: Cathy, Sonny & Spike(GA) (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 06:26PM

Sakura Wrote:
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> Wow, you're close! I'm in Steinbach!

Steinbach.....It's Worth The Trip grinning smiley Let me know if I can do anything for you. I can help you learn to hometest if you'd like.


Cathy and Sonny

Diagnosed: January 4, 2001

Current insulin/dose: Levemir/1.5u BID with R on an as needed basis



“Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened.”
Re: Where are you in Manitoba?
Posted by: Sakura (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 06:34PM

Thank you so much. smiling smiley Right now I just got to get used to this, and get everything ready. My main problem will be getting him to sit still through it!!
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Sue and Oliver (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 08:10PM

That's right. Many of us have given insulin for a while, lowering the dosage as we kept track of blood glucose numbers, and eventually our cats went off insulin.

It doesn't work for everyone, but for lots, a good wet lo carb diet and insulin has meant remission. For others, they are able to regulate their cats and they are living healthy, happy lives.

There is light at the end of this tunnel!

-Sue and Oliver(GA)

Niko


Thanks for our friends at FDMB, Oliver was diet controlled until his death from heart disease in 2008. (PZI user, Fancy Feast eater, love PetSafe5 automatic feeder) We adopted Niko from the shelter later that year.
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Sakura (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 09:03PM

That really gives me some hope. But I'm sure you have to test frequently to make sure everything is still ok.

When a cat is on insulin, how many times a day do they need a shot? My vet said my cat would have to have 2 shots a day for the rest of his life.
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: lexies-mum (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 09:07PM

Its so sad that you feel that your life messed up... but hey...its not.

When lexie was diagnosed with Diabetes, I was happy...Why? Because (to me) it was a whole lot better than alot of other diseases, and one that could be controlled.

During your diabetes journey, you will grow closer to your kitty, and develop a greater bond (well, I have anyway).

I think that its sad that you have to put your dream on hold, but I think that its a decission that you will never regret.

Everyone here will try to help you, so you dont have to do this alone.

Pam and Lexie in New Zealand



My babies. Lexie and Quin the Drooler.
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Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: patticass & Tyler (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 09:07PM

Sakura Wrote:
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> That really gives me some hope. But I'm sure you
> have to test frequently to make sure everything is
> still ok.
>
> When a cat is on insulin, how many times a day do
> they need a shot? My vet said my cat would have to
> have 2 shots a day for the rest of his life.

The norm is 2 shots a day. I went into it with Tyler (13 when diagnosed) I went in believing that it would be 2 shots a day for the rest of his life. We started him on insulin right away, PZI -- which is a good long lasting insulin. I switched my cats over from mostly dry to a canned only diet and was lucky enough to have Tyler go off insulin and become diet controlled within 3 weeks. There is no guarantee but it's possible. I still tested pretty often at the beginning but it's been 18 months now and we usually only test once a month unless I see a symptom that makes me want a test sooner.




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Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Karen & Pearl (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 09:17PM

twice a day is the usual, but this is where homestesting is really important. If a cat is one that might go into remission, sometimes they start to have normal numbers after the insulin from the first shot has worn off and you do NOT want to give insulin in that range. It could be the rest of his life or it might not. Each Cat is Different. You will see that echoed everywhere here ECID.

Karen & Pearl

Pearl's Levemir Spreadsheet


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Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Sakura (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 10:05PM

That's great! I'm really happy your kitty is doing so well. I really hope mine will be as lucky. smiling smiley
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Sakura (IP Logged)
Date: October 10, 2007 10:11PM

I actually felt the same way too. Diabetes is at least treatable. My vet was telling me that she might not be able to save Sylvester before he had the blood work done. When she told me it was diabetes, I knew it was treatable, so even though I was very sad at the news, I had a sense of relief that it wasn't something so terrible that I would have no choice but to put him down there and then. I want to have my kitty as long as possible. That's what we all want. smiling smiley
Re: Cat just diagnosed
Posted by: Vicky & Gandalf (IP Logged)
Date: October 11, 2007 12:46AM

lexies-mum Wrote:
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> Its so sad that you feel that your life messed
> up... but hey...its not.
>
> When lexie was diagnosed with Diabetes, I was
> happy...Why? Because (to me) it was a whole lot
> better than alot of other diseases, and one that
> could be controlled.
>
> During your diabetes journey, you will grow closer
> to your kitty, and develop a greater bond (well, I
> have anyway).
>
> I think that its sad that you have to put your
> dream on hold, but I think that its a decission
> that you will never regret.
>
> Everyone here will try to help you, so you dont
> have to do this alone.
>
> Pam and Lexie in New Zealand

I wanted to echo what Pam has said.

"Shot time" is my special time with Gandalf. He often purrs and gives kisses, even though he knows he's gonna get stuck. You obviously love Sylvester very much and he will respond to you with more love because of all the extra attention!

I do not regret the parties I've been unable to attend nor the trips I've had to postpone because of Gandalf's diabetes. I know that he will not be here forever, but I want to make his life as enjoyable as possible and give him the best care I can. There will always be time for parties, trips and other things.

Good luck and welcome to FDMB! smiling smiley



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