Lois and Java seek steady routine #s

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  1. Lois and Java

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    Kris, do you agree on the fat .5?
    495 at 8 am. Feeding now.
    Edit to add, he's had about a tablespoon of Fancy Feast, and now he's eating YA.
    I've confirmed that my neighbor can come anytime to check on Java, encourage him to eat. If a higher dose, I'd want to do that.
    We have to leave 9 am, need to let Java out soon for his beloved morning rounds.

    I'm going to go with a fat .5. The new needles are in shipping + ketone strips, never used those.
    He eats fine, I'm the problem not him! Am trying, think that 8-9 is sustainable. Am trying to pin it down, varies. Okay gotta run. More later.
     
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  2. JanetNJ

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    Over 400 I'd stay with 0.75. Gotta get those numbers down. We wanna see more blues.
     
  3. Kris & Teasel

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    Hi Lois,

    I posted on your other thread asking whether you'd given 0.75 u this AM. Hurray for the new syringes and ketone test strips on the way! Let's see how he does on the fat 0.5 u. You can always raise it tonight.

    There are tips for urine testing I can give you if I haven't done already.
     
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    Yay plastic wrap!! :)
     
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    Urine ketone testing methods:
    1. try putting the end of the test strip right into the urine stream
    2. put a shallow long-handled spoon under his backside as he pees
    3. cover his favourite are in the litter box with a double layer of plastic wrap and push a few depressions into it to collect urine.
    You only need a very small sample, enough to wet the coloured test areas on the end of the strip. Most strips need to be allowed to "develop" for 15 seconds. View in good light. Negative and trace look very much alike. If trace, call vet for advice. Anything more than trace needs vet attention ASAP.
     
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    PM 465, .75. tomorrow am, Same, correct?
    So ketone strips, I should be doing this when, how often?
     
  7. Kris & Teasel

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    Yes, 0.75 u tonight and tomorrow BG permitting. Ketone testing should be done at least once a week or more often if the numbers are consistently high.
     
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    351 at PM + 2.5 hrs. // Was 465 at PM, .75.
    Also ran the test solution on my strips to be sure the strips aren't the cause of the highs. They're in range. Sigh.
     
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  9. Kris & Teasel

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    Your dose for AM yesterday isn't on your SS. Did you give 0.75 u? The red you're getting could still be bounce numbers from that green on the 3rd. Bounces can persist for up to 3 days. It's possible that 0.75 u is too high but it's too soon to know I think. I suggest 0.75 u again this AM and aim for at least 1 or 2 tests in the +4 to +7 time frame to see what it's doing. You need that data, or even a curve, to know what's going on.

    ETA: being systematic doesn't guarantee instant success in regulating BG. It will, however, give a clear picture of Java's responses and allow you to make better dosing decisions. From what I see so far, he's a low dose kitty but also a bouncy kitty. That means dosing changes have to be small in size, timed carefully and not done too frequently. It's far too easy to scramble the picture by being haphazard.
     
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    347 at 6 am, +10 from PNPS.
    Too early to process above post, back to sleep, except thanks for suggestion stuck to .75. I need help like that to get over the clutch at my heart that tells me to vary dose - a very bad habit from prior months even though it clearly wasn't helping.
    So much water in, water out. IIRC, hyperuremeia ? and hyier dipsia? Will look up when awake. Thank you for your help, much appreciated!

    AM yesterday was fat .5.
     
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    Insufficient poop. Anyone ever use a baby glycerin suppository
     
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    Polyuria and polydipsia will subside when he's better regulated. Your task right now is to get it all calmed down.
    Re poop: many here feed small amounts of plain pumpkin or else use Miralax. I have no experience with this so I suggest you start another thread specifically on this topic.
     
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    AMPT 408. .75 U.
    189, noon, +4.
    Poop achieved! Yay! Just as was I walking over to the test kit, too, feeling chagrin for having gotten caught up in a project and not posting separately about that issue early this morning. Good job, Java.
    He'd been getting pumpkin in a.m. and Miralax in p.m., with the substitution of more Miralax instead of pumpkin this a.m.
     
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    I like that blue number!
     
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    Yes. Yellow now though, 286 at +9. Better than fuschia!
     
  16. Kris & Teasel

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    I agree. 0.75 u again tonight.
     
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    Boo on 499 at pmpt, but it's down to 249 now, 3+.
    Did I read someone here saying they are diabetic and it feels bad to have high #s? Presumably low also. Something to google sometime.
     
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    Just keep up the routine, Lois. There are hints that the numbers are settling into a better pattern - too high, but a better pattern. It's really important to not react to an individual number unless it's dangerously low. It's the overall trend in numbers that tell the story. Continue with 0.75 u AM and PM today. Grab a test or two in the middle section of the cycles.
     
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    Ugh, into the black at 8 am! 570, .75 U.
    I kept him inside for half an hour post shot let insulin work. Official flood alerts coming in, so much rain on Left Coast. I didn't want him to do something stupid; he didn't.
    Gorgeous big soft enough poop after he came in at 9. Yay! Will check BG when I get back in ~2 hrs.
     
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    Don't worry about the black - he's bouncing. Stay the course. :DHurray for a good poop!
     
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    182 at 12:30! Or approx. +4. Wow.
    The up is part of the bounce. Okay.
    Stopped raining, we're going outside.
    Tested at 3 pm, or, +7. Was 183, just 1 point higher. Huh.
    447 at PMPT, 8 pm. .75 U.
     
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    What the heck?!
    514 at 12:30 pm, or, + PM 3.5.?
    I was sure it was a good shot until now, when I don't see how it's possible for BG to go up unless the shot was compromised.
    Is anyone up? What do I do? Kris won't be awake now.
     
  23. JanetNJ

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    Could have been a fur shot..... Unless he ate something.
     
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