Freya Updates/Dosing Help Needed

Discussion in 'Prozinc / PZI' started by KrustiKakes, Sep 17, 2020.

  1. KrustiKakes

    KrustiKakes Member

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    Since June Freya's numbers have been pretty steady, and things have been pretty easy. She has been doing wonderfully. I have noticed her numbers kinda creeping up the past week or so. We bumped up her dose slightly, and now they numbers are going way up (bounce?). We have not been seeing these numbers since early in her diagnosis.

    What could cause numbers to spike like this? We recently opened a new bottle of Prozinc that we picked up from the vet a couple of months ago. Is it possible that even with a good date the bottle is bad? I would assume it was properly stored at the vet, but you never know if something happened. It doesn't have anything wrong in its appearance that is obvious though.

    We had been feeding her Fancy Feast Savory Centers pretty much full time (with Tiki Cat mixed in) about 2 months ago the chicken flavor was hard to find, and now we can no longer get the beef flavor either as of about 2 weeks ago. We are back on Tiki Cat chicken along with trying various other things (standard fancy feast pate chicken, chicken and beef, etc). Could these not agree with her? We have used them before, but never full time.

    Other recentish changes: We took her off Dasuquin around a month ago due to reading it may not be great for diabetes. I have been giving her Hyalogic Cat Hyaluronic Acid instead. From what I can tell this should be okay, right?

    We have been working her off prednisolone. I would think this would make her numbers better, but i am not sure why they are going up. I have noticed some hairloss on her belly, and even a little inside her back leg. Should I be worried about the steroids causing Cushings? If so, would getting her off the steroid help? I am now at 4 days between doses. Her doage is 1.25 mg. I am still worried about her spine issue, so we are going very very slowly to see how she reacts.

    She still takes Zobaline, and was doing very well. The past few days with higher numbers I can tell her squatting in the bathroom is not looking as great as it used to. I am assuming higher numbers are affecting her neuropathy again.

    She is still on Gabapentin twice a day.

    I recently bought fortiflora when she was having diarrhea. She has now been taking it around a week. I give her to her once a day or every other day. Seems to have worked well. Could it affect her blood sugar?

    Could she have an infection somewhere? She is still hungry (even moreso the past few days with the high numbers), she isn't exhibiting any off behaviors (definitely drinking more water, but again, I assume from the higher numbers). I just do not know what to lookout for, or what tests to even nhave the vet run.

    My first instinct is to keep upping her dose, but I want thoughts/opinions first. Should I bump up more starting tomorrow? Should I go down? We were doing so so so so well, I thought maybe she was heading towards remission. I feel so sad now.

    She is supposed to see the vet next month, but I can call and make an appointment sooner too. I just would like to have some ideas to bring to my vet as they have admitted they do not have a lot of experience with diabetic cats, and I want to make sure they do more than just a quick glance.

    I am hoping to start seeing better numbers again soon. I also think at these numbers I should test for Ketones. Any recommendations if I cannot catch her urine? I hear they have blood meters. Any recommendations? Can they be found locally?

    I appreciate the help.
     
  2. Panic

    Panic Well-Known Member

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    Since you have a lot of questions that are pretty generalized (not specific to Prozinc) I would recommend copying this and posting on the Main Health forum to get more eyes on it. I don't have personal experience with a lot of it so can't say.

    The Savory Centers though ... it's not listed on Dr. Pierson's food chart but since it has gravy in it it's probably high-carb ... have you tried the Roasted variety? They are low-carb.
    I don't think fortiflora affects BG, it's used often on the boards.

    I don't know about an infection - she may just need a little more juice. Or kick the Savory Centers, one thing at a time.
    Would you be able to get a +2 in each cycle? The tests you're getting in are good but it's helpful to get an early test in along with the one later in the cycle.
     
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  3. KrustiKakes

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    How do I crosspost? I admit I am rarely on the board, and keep a closer eye on the Facebook group.

    Savory Centers do not have actual gravy, and from what I could find they were okay for diabetics. I assume the fact that her numbers were good while on it (late May-early Sept.) means the food worked for her. Purina is having supply issues and that is why we recently had to make a switch. With the shortage issues I am definitely open to a diet change. She is is super easy to feed, and will pretty much go for anything!


    Testing in the evenings I can do, but generally would not be able to get any tests during the day during the working week. My husband and I both work M-F jobs with "standard" hours. This means we are gone shortly after am dosage, and return a couple of hours before pm dosage. We can sometimes sneak over for lunch, but that is around +5. I can do more on the weekends.

    Thank you!
     
  4. Panic

    Panic Well-Known Member

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    That's understandable! Do what you can of course. If you get that +2 in the evening that will help compensate for not getting it during the day.

    I do think Freya might be ready for an increase to 1.25u though. And ask on the Main Health about the Savory Centers since I can't actually find info on the carb amount.
     
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  5. KrustiKakes

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    How would I go about doing a cross post? Should I make a new post there with a link to this one?
     
  6. Panic

    Panic Well-Known Member

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    I would just make a new post over there and I'll follow you over. :)
     
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