11/27 Gracie Back at ER

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  1. Marje and Gracie

    Marje and Gracie Senior Member Moderator

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    Gracie’s Gratitude Condo

    Good afternoon and many vines and prayers to all in need. We hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. Thank you all so much for visiting our Gratitude condo yesterday and sharing your thoughts. It was uplifting and we appreciate our L/L family so much.

    No Lupita Friday as she has the day off to be with her family and Missy G is sick....I noticed late last night that her respirations had increased and she was really lethargic but she didn’t feel warm to me. I kept checking on her during the night. She didn’t hop up on the table in the closet and give me the usual headbutts/purrs but she did eat. I felt her and I could tell she had a temp AND when I checked her urine for ketones yesterday, it was darker like very concentrated but I knew it was bilirubin because we’ve experienced this before. Dr. B is out on Fridays but Dr. W (who we love, too) was there and when I called and asked if I should take her to ER, Dr. W said “absolutely not...we know her best and I’ll take care of her”. She’s so awesome. It appears Gracie has some kind of infection because she did have a temp and Dr. W thinks, because of the bilirubin, that it’s a cholangioheptatitis flare. She put her on clavamox and said to give fluids EOD; we are being cautious here because I gave her fluids on Wed and was going to do it yesterday but she seemed like she still hadn’t absorbed them so it’s important to not over hydrate her especially when she isn’t really dehydrated...it’s just for support and to flush the bilirubin out.

    Dr. W is really sharp about FD and since we are on unchartered territory for Gracie (really high numbers), I thought I’d bounce some dosing ideas off her. She said that it’s going to be tough to get on top of the numbers as long as she’s receiving 5 mg/pred a day and she hopes that the oncologist will reduce that dose once Gracie starts chemo. She said the pred causes insulin resistance and since I just took her dose up yesterday, give the a/b time to kick in and six cycles on the dose. I told her I thought when I increased the dose (assuming I will need to), I’d do it by 0.25u because it’s a new ball game here and our fine tuning increases are not going to be enough. She thought that was really smart because of the nature of the pred. She said she doesn’t have any other clients who give R and it would normally make her nervous but she knows we watch her closely and have done this a while. Of course, the numbers today are probably also the infection but primarily the pred. So we’re back to daily ketone checks but that’s ok...it’s easy and worth it.


    I started converting Gracie to a home cooked diet a couple weeks ago and have finally finished that conversion and I’ve been using Alnutrin to provide the vitamins/minerals and also using the recipes. It’s a good thing because Gracie won’t touch the canned food but she’s eating the home cooked really well (anti jinx). And if I do have to syringe it to her, its a good consistency and she’s easy.

    If you have any spare prayers for our LBG, we’d surely appreciate them and we will reciprocate for all those needing them. Thank you and huge hugs.:bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  2. Linda and Bear Man

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    I'm so sorry to hear that Gracie is not feeling well. I'm sending vines for the a/b to do its job and get her quickly on the road to feeling better.
     
  3. Amy&TrixieCat

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    My heart skipped a beat when I saw the subject line. Sending tons and tons and tons of speedy healing vines and prayers to sweet little Gracie...
     
  4. Doodles & Karen

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    Poor little Gracie but she has the best mama bean! Great to hear she's eating the home cooked meals...that I believe is the best. Our thoughts and prayers are with you in full force!
     
  5. Peg and Toby

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    Sending vines and prayers that Gracie will have a speedy recovery. Toby is on 5mg of pred. a day also. His vet. has me split the pill and give 1/2 in the morning and the other half at night.
     
  6. Anne & Zener GA

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    Sending kudzu strength vines to Missy G and big hugs to her beloved bean!
     
  7. mariko

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    Senging MEGA feel better vines to Gracie.
    :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  8. Marilyn and Polly

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    Prayers, light, vines. Lots.
     
  9. MrZ

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    Marje, so sorry to hear that Gracie's having a tough time right now. Mega prayers from us that she's better soon.
     
  10. Suzi_S

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    Sending truckloads of vines and prayers to you and Gracie
     
  11. Michelle and Mannie (GA)

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    Be well Miss Gracie. I am keeping you in my thoughts.... always.

    Hugs to all there. I know how hard it is when one is juggling multiple health issues. Keeping you both in my thoughts too.
     
  12. suki & crystal (GA)

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    Prayers and vines for Miss Gracie, and for you Marje. Hope she is soon feeling better. :bighug:
     
  13. Paula

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    Michael & I are sending tons of healing feel better vines to Miss Gracie.:bighug:
    :bighug::bighug::bighug:Hugs for you , Mike & Tobey.
    Pawscript: Lots of prayers.
     
  14. Josie & Ripley (GA)

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    Oh, Marje, I know that even though you're on top of her health and well-being you must be feeling immense worry for your little girl. Sending tons of vines to Gracie and many calming vines and hugs your way.
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  15. Sienne and Gabby (GA)

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    Sending lots of good thoughts Gracie's way.
     
  16. Voula

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    Healing prayers for Gracie and a hug for you Marje. :bighug:
     
  17. carfurby (GA)

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    Sending prayers for Gracie and hugs to you. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  18. Chris & China (GA)

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    Sending lots of prayers, vines and white light to our very special Gracie...and her extra special beans too!!
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  19. Mandarin'sMom

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    Sending lots of good thoughts and healing vines your way!
     
  20. Olive & Paula

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    Here are more vines and hugs. Get well soon Gracie. Stay strong Marje. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  21. Ella & Rusty & Stu(GA)

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    Gracie, there are lots of beautiful vines still in bloom here in NYC and I am sending them all to you. Feel better, precious little Princess!

    Your friend,
    Rusty

    Marje, we are thinking positively that Gracie will recover soon from this infection. You are so good at balancing all of the meds, but it has got to be difficult. Thinking of you and Mike and the kitties tonight and sending lots of hugs.

    Ella & Rusty
     
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  22. Vyktors Mum

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    Piling on more vines for your LBG. I hope the AB does it's job fast.
     
  23. Ann & Maggie11 (GA)

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    Lots of healing vines and prayers for Gracie. She's a strong little girl and will get thru it all. Hugs from me and Katie.:bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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    Sending tons of positive thoughts and prayers for Miss Gracie. You and Mike take such good care of the LBG. Hugs.
     
  25. julie & punkin (ga)

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    aack, i didn't see this til just now! I'm glad you've got such a good vet - piling on all the healing vines and prayers that i can send to the little girl. :bighug::bighug:
     
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  26. Wendy&Neko

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    {{{Marje and Mike}}} Tons of healing white light going your way for Miss Gracie.

    I am glad she is eating the home cooked food. Vines for quick results from the AB. :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  27. Bobbie And Bubba

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    Hi Margie, I am peeking into the L & L land because this might be mine and Bubba's new home soon as ProZinc isn't cutting it for him. I just saw that your sweet Margie is sick and I wanted to send you my good wishes and Reiki to her and you. Stay strong, both of you. :bighug:
     
  28. rhiannon and shadow (GA)

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    i'm just checking in quickly too.....
    sending many many prayers that Gracie feels better soon....
    hoping that the reason the pred is bothering her is that it is working.
    :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  29. Brashworks

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    Strongest healing vines for Miss Gracie. Come on sweet little girl, feel better! Hugs to mama and papa bean.
     
  30. Marje and Gracie

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    Thank you all so much. I wish I could answer each note tonight but Gracie is feeling pretty awful and I'm just watching her and trying to take care of her. Her BG is the highest it's ever been on lev and I can just see in her face that she feels terrible. She's drinking and peeing a lot. Very lethargic. I know I need to give the a/b a little time. I gave her fluids. I've been making sure she eats e laugh calories, checking ketones. I wish it were me instead of her.

    Thank you for your prayers,
     
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  31. Anne & Zener GA

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    :bighug: Thanks for the update, poor LBG and poor bean. Paws crossed the drugs do their bit and tomorrow is another day.
     
  32. Tuxedo Mom

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    It is so hard when our kids are not well....Prayers sent your way for both you and Gracie.
     
  33. Vicki and Jerry

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    Prayers for Gracie and for you.
     
  34. Libby and Lucy

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    ((((Marje)))) hang in there, this is tough but you're doing a good job. I would think you can be fairly aggressive with the R as long as you're getting food into her. That might help her feel better while you're waiting to increase the Lev dose. I hope you and Gracie will get some relief tonight.
     
  35. julie & punkin (ga)

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    Marje has headed out to the ER with Gracie. She's got a lot of fluid in her belly.
     
  36. Anne & Zener GA

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    Oh no, Liz is in Tucson and is going to call her and see if Marje needs her help or company.

    Anne
     
  37. suki & crystal (GA)

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    Prayers for Gracie, come home soon little one :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  38. Marje and Gracie

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    They pulled pinkish fluid from her belly. Running labs and calling oncologist who owns this ER and specialty clinic and is the vet we see Mon. Trying to find out why it happened so fast. She was normal at PMPS but at +2, her belly was swollen.

    Liz on the way to sit with me. Thank you all.
     
  39. Jill & Alex (GA)

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    (((((Marje)))))
    I'm glad Liz is able to come sit with you.
    Positive thoughts and prayers...

    Feel better, little one..

    :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  40. Suzi_S

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    Sending prayers and vines to you
     
  41. Olive & Paula

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    :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:. Lots of vines. Gracie feel better, everyone is worried bout you and mama.
     
  42. mariko

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    Sending prayers.
    (((Marje)))
     
  43. Marje and Gracie

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    Thank you all so much.

    We are back. She has a lot of fluid in her abdomen and they believe it is a progression of the lymphoma. Her liver values are all elevated again...higher this time and they can't rule out that the lymphoma has spread to her liver. They started her on chemo and dropped back the pred dose. They said her condition is "guarded". We see the oncologist Monday but they said to bring her back in if she worsens in any way.

    She is a fighter....she was bright eyed and alert there. Liz,wonderful friend that she is, came and sat with me. It means so much!
     
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  44. Jill & Alex (GA)

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    She's in the best hands, Marje! You're both fighters.
    Thoughts, prayers, white light, vines, and tons of hugs... it's all coming your way.
    Take care and try to get some rest.
    :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  45. mariko

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    Thinking of you and Gracie.
    Please feel better, little Gracie.
    :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  46. Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey

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    God bless Liz for being with you while Mike is away. We are all focusing the power of L&L Land vines on Miss Gracie.
     
  47. carfurby (GA)

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    Sending more prayers. I'm glad Liz was able to come and sit with you. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  48. Marycatmom

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    Praying and sending hugs.
     
  49. Voula

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    Healing prayers for your Gracie and I hope the chemotherapy works fast and a big hug to you too Marje.
     
  50. Sienne and Gabby (GA)

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    I'm keeping you and Gracie and Mike in my thoughts. Gracie knows you will give her the best possible care and you caught this early. Fingers crossed that the AB and the chemo work quickly and well.
     
  51. Amy&TrixieCat

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    Many, many prayers coming from us. The fact that she was bright eyed and alert says a lot....she's got spunk and sass and fight in her!
     
  52. Ann & Maggie11 (GA)

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    Hang in there sweet Gracie and Marje. More prayers and healing vines on the way. What a blessing that Liz is there this weekend and could be there for you. Hugs for you, Marje.
     
  53. Linda and Bear Man

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    (((Marje))) I am sending prayers for (((Gracie))).
     
  54. Marilyn and Polly

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    Prayers. Many. So many.

    Marilyn
     
  55. Mocha aka Cold Play

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    Gracie, may you recover and be back to your old sweet, head butting furbaby very soon. Feel better!
     
  56. Judy and Boomer

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    Gracie has the best mama and papa bean around! It is so tough when our babies aren't feeling well! But it certainly sounds like you have an awesome team helping her! Sending healing vines to Gracie and many hugs to you! :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  57. Olive & Paula

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    So glad your home and Gracie is more comfortable. Prayers and hugs to everyone. Liz how wonderful of you to be there for them.
     
  58. Mandarin'sMom

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    Thinking of you and sending lots of good vines. Glad that Liz was able to be there for you!
     
  59. Marje and Gracie

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    :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:

    I hope that expresses the appreciation in our hearts.

    LBGs abdomen has more fluid this morning but they told me it likely would. She's not eating now but she lets me syringe feed her....she's so good and brave. She's alert and purrs when I pet her but I know she doesn't feel good. Her AMPS was 585 on the AT. I can't imagine how horrible this makes her feel when she's spent the majority of the last five years below 200. My heart aches at how she must be feeling and I just hold her and love her. I'm sue we will be going back to the ER today....they said if she didn't eat, come back. Of course, I won't leave her....they will never get her to eat.

    Thank you for your prayers. We need those L/L land miracles now so much but I know others need them, too, so please be sure and spread them around.
     
  60. Prayers for all, dear friend.
     
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  61. Peg and Toby

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    Sending more vines and prayers that Gracie gets feeling better soon. Sending hugs to you DH and Tobey. She knows how much you love her.
     
  62. Olive & Paula

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    Marje, I know I don't know enough about Gracie and her condition, I was wondering if a small drainage tube would be possible to keep the fluid at bay until the meds kick in and you see the specialist on Monday. It would keep her comfortable I would think but I don't know if they do that on animals.
     
  63. Anne & Hyde (GA)

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    Piling on the vines to AZ. Gracie, now is the time to fight off the infection and the other yuckies!! Hugs to you Marje:bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  64. Sharon14

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    Sending prayers and healing vines.
     
  65. rhiannon and shadow (GA)

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    ((((((((((((((Marje)))))))))))))))))))
     
  66. Libby and Lucy

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    thinking of you today. I wish there was more I could do.
     
  67. Rachel & Chyna (GA)

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    (((((Marje and Mike))))))) how terribly hard for you. I'm piling on the vines and prayers. I'm so glad that Liz could be there for you. You have the entire board there in spirit! Scritches to Gracie and many hugs to you all :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  68. Josie & Ripley (GA)

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    Sending all my love, vines, positivity, (((Marje))).
    :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:

    Stay strong and brave, GracieGirl. You got this!
     
  69. Tena and Curry(GA)

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    Keeping you all in my thoughts and prayers. Sending lots of love and hugs.
     
  70. suki & crystal (GA)

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    Vines and prayers on their way to you Marje and sweet Gracie, let's see some of that famous Gracie fiestiness kick that fluid right out of her system. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  71. Asrael

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    Sending sooo sooo much prayers, love, and light to you and Gracie right now:) Holding you both in my heart!
     
  72. Paula

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    Gracie, I'm sending my special healing meows & purrs. Pleeeeeeeeese feel better.:bighug::bighug::bighug:
    Cuz Michael:(
    Auntie Marje meows, purrs and :bighug::bighug::bighug:

    ((((Marje)))) praying for sweet Gracie.
    Wish I could wave a magic wand and she would be all better.:bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  73. Anne & Zener GA

    Anne & Zener GA Well-Known Member

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    Gracie is such a fighter. We are so sorry you are all going through this. Sending snowflakes to accompany the healing vines.:bighug:

    Anne
     
  74. Melanie and Smokey

    Melanie and Smokey Well-Known Member

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    I am so sorry Gracie is having such a tough time. F'ing lymphoma :( Many, many prayers for her and you.
     
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  75. Marje and Gracie

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    Thank you for this idea but they have to be very careful about putting any needles or tubes in the abdomen when there is lymphoma. They “can” do it if it gets really bad but quite often, the pockets of fluid are not big enough to draw a lot off. They are hoping the chemo drug started last night will help with that.

    Thank you all....I’ll start a new condo.
     
  76. Brashworks

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    Keep fighting Gracie. We are with you. Hugs to you Marje. I know this takes every bit of strength you have.
     
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