01/26 Charlie AMPS 50 @0.25 (54)@0.75(76)@+2(56)+4(52)+6(42)+6.5(70)+6.75(70)

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  1. Tammy Campbell Gallant

    Tammy Campbell Gallant Member

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    AMPS 50 Will test again at +15
     
  2. Sue and Luci

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    WOW! An exciting way to start the day!! Beautiful green!!!
     
  3. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    waited 15 mins his numbers are now 54. Do I give him his insulin? He is on one drop
     
  4. Sue and Luci

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    As long as you're going to be around to monitor - I'd shoot that drop.

    He will let you know if he's had enough insulin...and may be ready to start the trial.
     
  5. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    OK thank you.:bighug: I will be around today so I will give it to him.
     
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  6. JaxBenji

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    Yay, great job shooting!!! I can hear the falls :D
     
  7. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    Charlie's sugar @+2 is 56
     
  8. tiffmaxee

    tiffmaxee Well-Known Member

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    I’m almost ready to give you the OTJ trial directions. I’m not quite sure he will make it through the 7th day. Come on Charlie, one point less. If not surf a tad higher for your mom and your ears.
     
  9. Butters & Lyla

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    Whoa!!! Charlie is in fine form! Looking forward to an OTJ trial for him very, very soon...:D.
     
  10. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    Sorry I don't quit understand. You don't think he will make it to day 7 because? one point less? You want him to go below 50? or surf a tad higher?( not sure what that means either) Sorry :banghead: hitting a wall with the information:D
     
  11. tiffmaxee

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    I expect a drop under 50 today or tonight. So close.
     
  12. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    I don't wanna :nailbiting: lol under 50 scares me. I know what to do and I am prepared. I have all my low, med and high carb. My papers all printed out, Syrup ready. I don't like the under 50 numbers
     
  13. tiffmaxee

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    Ok. I’ll root that he stay over 50 since it’s just one day left. But....it’s just a 49 you need. He’s only on a drop and lc food. Look how fast he came up the one time. Lol.
     
  14. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    You are right and I can handle it!:) It just scares me a little but I am prepared!!!
     
  15. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    Charlie's numbers are now 43. Do I feed low carb or a teaspoon of high carb?
     
  16. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    Or med carb? I have all three
     
  17. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    gave him low carb food and 6 freeze chicken bites. will check again in 15 mins
     
  18. JaxBenji

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    high carb when < 50
     
  19. JaxBenji

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    I can stay for a few minutes - perhaps to next test - @tiffmaxee are you still on? Your prediction for <50 for Charlie came true :p
     
  20. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    I was thinking high carb but he jumped 20 points earlier today on low carb so I didn't want to much of a jump.

    his numbers are 70 now
     
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  21. JaxBenji

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    So that's +6.25? I would not feed and test at +6.5.
     
  22. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    no that was +6.5 by the time I got everything done. I won't feed and test at +6.75
     
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  23. JaxBenji

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    Okay, got it :) I'll stick around while I can though looks like you are managing things purrrfectly :cat:

    Is this right:
    +6.25 43 *low carb food and 6 freeze chicken bites
    +6.5 70 *no food
    +6.75 next test?

    If you don't hear from me, you just want to manage Charlie like you did on 01/15. You did great then and are doing great now :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
  24. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    Great thank you!:bighug:
     
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  25. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    +6.75 his numbers are 70
     
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  26. JaxBenji

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    I would give an LC snack and test in an hour.

    What's his feeding schedule usually like?
     
  27. JaxBenji

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    Also, I think I'm okay posting this - others will let me know if I'm wrong :p but here are the OTJ Trial instructions - you start at the next green pre-shot (so tonight if Charlie is green!).

    Instructions for starting the OTJ trial
    • Start the trial on the next green pre shot.
    • If he/she is green at your normal test times, no need to test further until the next "PS" time; just feed small meals and go about your day. If he/she is blue at your normal "PS", feed a small meal and test again after about 3 or 4 hours. If his/her number is lower 3-4 hours after a meal, then the pancreas is working!
    • Post every day so we can monitor your progress and see if any tweaks are needed. He/she may have a sporadic blue number. Don't panic but post before you decide whether to shoot so we can have a discussion.
    • After 14 days of no insulin, we have a party!!
    • Sometimes the trial doesn't work the first time and we have to give a little more support in the form of resuming insulin. It's not the end of the world if that happens; we just give him/her the support needed. Our goal is a strong remission and it's better to take our time to get that than to rush into remission just to have it fail later on.
    • Good luck with the trial!!!
    • Once he/she is through the trial successfully, you enter a new phase. Your cat is still diabetic but has now become diet-controlled. Continue feeding low carb food in the manner successful for your kitty. If you decide to change his/her feeding schedule, let your meter be your guide to the best times to feed. Avoid medications with sugar in them and steroid medications unless they are medically essential. Continue testing blood glucose weekly for the first month and then monthly forever. It's a good idea to weigh him/her monthly. Weight should remain stable. If he/she seems "off" or sick, or is showing signs of diabetes (excessive drinking, eating, urinating, weight loss), test his/her blood glucose right away. Keep the teeth and gums clean and healthy; dental issues can bring a cat out of remission. If you see rising blood glucose numbers, it's time for a visit to the vet!
     
  28. JaxBenji

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    Tammy, I have to run now, but you are doing so wonderful - feel free to tag me or anyone else if you need help but I would guess that Charlie will surf to PMBG (PM Blood Glucose...because no shot :)).
     
  29. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    He normally has low carb after his AMPS !/2 can Fancy Feast then another 1/2 can around +4,+9 then again after his PMPS. Then another 1/2 can at +4 and +8
     
  30. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    Thank you for all your help!:bighug:
     
  31. JaxBenji

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    so I'd feed a tsp or two of the +8 snack and then test in an hour and then feed rest of his normal snack at +8. Just my thoughts. You and him are doing great! (okay really going now :p)
     
  32. Butters & Lyla

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    That's what Elise was talking about! He dropped <50 which earns him a reduction. Congrats!!!
    I saw the 42 @+6 in your title but looks like he is above 50 now. Great job. You may wanna add the other numbers to your title when you get a chance.
     
  33. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    Great Thank you :bighug:I changed it!
     
  34. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    at +10 Charlie's sugars are 58
     
  35. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    PMPS is 58. So I am not going to give insulin and start the OTJ trial.
     
  36. tiffmaxee

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    I told you he would drop under 50! I love it when I am right with my predictions. I see Susanne gave you the directions. Congrats!!:D
     
  37. Wendy&Neko

    Wendy&Neko Senior Member Moderator

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    When you don't give a shot, we call it PMBG, blood glucose, not preshot. Good luck with the trial. :D
     
  38. Tammy Campbell Gallant

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    Thanks
     

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