02/11-Freckles/Judy - , 59 +12, 61@+12.25, 67@PMPS , 101@+1, 113@+2, 126 @+3, 158 @+4, 178 @+5

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  1. Judy and Freckles

    Judy and Freckles Well-Known Member

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    yesterday's post
    Freckles came with me to the city today as there was no one home to test during the day. I was able to come home at lunch and test and she was at 74. She continues to drop during the 11th hour. Will test in 30 minutes before I shoot - may be posting for advice but will be revisiting @Wendy&Neko 's suggestion from Sunday before I do anything else.
     
  2. Wendy&Neko

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    Too late now, but next time, and Freckles likes to do this :rolleyes:, I would have given a snack at +9.25 to see of you could have put the brakes on her. Freckles, up please!
     
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  3. Judy and Freckles

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    A snack because it's late in the cycle and so the PMPS isn't food influenced?
     
  4. Judy and Freckles

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    and because she continued to drop?
     
  5. Judy and Freckles

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    still dropping 59 @ shot time - stalling
     
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  7. Sandy and Black Kitty

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    You can feed as long as it’s not later than +10

    Did You feed any of those green numbers earlier in the cycle?
     
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  8. Judy and Freckles

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    She had a snack @+7

    Now we are at PMPS time.
     
  9. Judy and Freckles

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    I'm almost thinking of shooting a reduce amount - 6.5u?
     
  10. Wendy&Neko

    Wendy&Neko Senior Member Moderator

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    Taking off a 0.5 unit won’t change how the cycle will play out, due to the depot. Either do full dose or substantial reduction.
     
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  11. Judy and Freckles

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    up to 61 @+12.25

    This isn't much of a rise. I can stall another 15 minutes before shooting.
     
  12. Sandy and Black Kitty

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    Shooting a reduced dose for HD kitties is always an option- we call it a BCS (big chicken sh*t) shot. Keep in mind that due to the slow action of Lantus the effects of a reduced dose will likely take hold in the following cycle not the current one.

    If shooting late it’s not going to mess up your schedule ( next shot will have to be 12 hours later) you can stall some more.
     
  13. Judy and Freckles

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    67 ..... no chickens in this coop... shot full dose. :nailbiting:
     
  14. Si am cat mom

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    : )

    Do you usually give snacks at +1 or +2 ?
    I know with my guy, If I am going to give him food/ carbs to slow him down before his onset I feed around +1.5 or +2 - otherwise I'm up chasing the numbers still at +5
     
  15. Wendy&Neko

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  16. Sandy and Black Kitty

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    congratulations on shooting your first green PS. You have earned your official BOS.
    BOS.jpg
     
  17. Judy and Freckles

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    Hahahah.. yup... and I'm pretty sure Wendy was just sitting back and waiting to see what I would do right??? lol

    Not going to far tonight! lol
     
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  18. Wendy&Neko

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    I am pretty sure I know what you will be doing tonight. Looking forward to that +1.
     
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  19. Judy and Freckles

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    Snacks are +1, +3, +5, +7
     
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  20. Judy and Freckles

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    Yup... I'm in the city tonight as I was going to visit mom at the care home, but not tonight. She will understand.

    I figure this is the best place to shoot a green as I'm not an hour away from the ER vet as usual, I have plenty of supplies and I can sleep in a bit tomorrow morning because I don't have the commute and DH is doing the chores tonight and tomorrow morning.

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  21. Sandy and Black Kitty

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    Make sure to show long you stalled on the ss. It’s important data.
    I liked to see it in the cell ( example below ) some folks put it in the remarks.

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  22. Wendy&Neko

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    Let’s see what Freckles does early on. Might yet be able to visit mom.

    I did like Sandy on the SS.
     
  23. Judy and Freckles

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    No visit for mom tonight - they put her to bed @+2.
     
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  25. Mimis mom

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    Question- what does HD mean and can someone explain the depot again- like why will dose increases or decreases not be seen until the following cycle? I don’t think I’m understanding fully. Oh! And what does BCS mean (I know what it stands for but what does it mean?)
     
  26. Judy and Freckles

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    High dose cat (cat that is getting a higher dose of insulin)
    The depot is like the extra storage shed for the insulin. When a dose is decreased, the extra in the depot will act as the regular dose until the extra is used up. That's how I understand it anyways. The depot is like the 'reserve'. So if you look at Freckles SS for February 9 pm, the depot is what kept Freckles in the blue for awhile and away from the reds and blacks - even though I skipped the shot.

    BCS means the CG (caregiver) is not confident in giving the full dose when faced with lower numbers than what the CG is usually faced with.
     
  27. Judy and Freckles

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    113 @+2
     
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  28. Mimis mom

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    Yay Freckles coming into the blues ! Just stay there for a while- take some dips into the lagoon but stay out of that hot yellow sun!
     
  29. Judy and Freckles

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    Yes, let's hope for one of those 'flat' curves that Freckles has been notorious for!
     
  30. Mimis mom

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    Mimi’s a flat curving kitty too. They are hospital bed buddies - both got the betes around the same time. I hope she stays more in the blues so she can earn reducies! Or do we have to wait until they are actually below 50 before that happens? I have to check the stickies again
     
  31. Judy and Freckles

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    normal numbers for a week can earn a reduction too. http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/reductions.81242/
     
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  33. Bandit's Mom

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    congrats on shooting a green! glad you had Wendy around to steer you.
    and gladder that i was asleep! ;)

    go freckles!
     
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  34. Judy and Freckles

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    You are hilarious! lmao
     
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    178 @+5 - here I was already for a big stressful event and.... nothing! Cats! Off to bed and we'll see what morning brings us.
     
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  37. Wendy&Neko

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    Same thing happened to me the first few times I shot green.stressed out mommabean, proud to have shot green, and fizzle. :rolleyes: Ah well, a nice set of blues.
     
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  38. Judy and Freckles

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    You bet! I will take blues any day! Oh well. We came out of the night with BOS! lmao

    Thanks for your help and support.... once again...
     
  39. Wendy&Neko

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    I was glad to see Sandy too, she stepped in when I was busy out of the house. It takes a village....
     
  40. Judy and Freckles

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    Absolutely. BK has given Sandy a lot of experience and I'm grateful that she is sharing her knowledge and tips with me! The more the merrier!
     

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