1/25 Karamelle PMPS 383 +4 324 +7 268

JoM

JoM

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Yesterday 1/24 Karamelle AMPS 289 +4 245 +9 206 PMPS 155 +3 108 +4 96 | Feline Diabetes Message Board - FDMB

Yesterday was a bit stressful. Karamelle decided she didnt want to eat after her PMPS. She threw up a small amount of bile, I syringe fed her a little bit but she spit a lot of it out. I gave her some cerenia and Mirataz. Tried to feed her some Fancy Feast, but she wasnt having it. I tried her low carb dry and she didnt want that either. I tested again +3. I honestly cant remember the order I did anything last night as its all a blur. I ended up giving her some high carb dry and she ate some of that. Then tested her again at +4, it was 96, so I gave her some high carb wet and went to bed. This morning her AMPS was 383!! I dont know what to make of this. I think maybe shes gone off her food a bit. She isnt so excited about the Young Again Zero mature anymore. I know its best she stays on all wet so I will try and feed her more often. I just hope she will eat enough to maintain her weight and she will eat the Fancy Feast. She really liked the Merrick (16%) I gave her.
 
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Sorry about the bouncy high numbers today. But she did get down to a lovely high green just before hand. With SLGS, we stay with a particular dose if you are seeing nadirs in the 90-149 range, so this dose is looking good for now.

Maybe there's another Merrick flavour she'd like. The Purrfect Bistro Duck is 5%. There is also the limited ingredient duck. It's listed as 15% on Dr. Lisa's food list, but I know that's wrong. Must be a typo as the ingredients are very similar to the other LID flavours. I fed it to Neko, who loved it, and it didn't bump her numbers. She was very carb sensitive.

A clarification from yesterday:
JoM said:
was kind of panicking so I gave her some high carb dry but remembered that it doesnt work as fast.
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Dry food does work as fast. The problem is that dry food takes longer to get out of their system once they've eaten it. Meaning the high numbers will last a little longer.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
Sorry about the bouncy high numbers today. But she did get down to a lovely high green just before hand. With SLGS, we stay with a particular dose if you are seeing nadirs in the 90-149 range, so this dose is looking good for now.

Maybe there's another Merrick flavour she'd like. The Purrfect Bistro Duck is 5%. There is also the limited ingredient duck. It's listed as 15% on Dr. Lisa's food list, but I know that's wrong. Must be a typo as the ingredients are very similar to the other LID flavours. I fed it to Neko, who loved it, and it didn't bump her numbers. She was very carb sensitive.

A clarification from yesterday: Dry food does work as fast. The problem is that dry food takes longer to get out of their system once they've eaten it. Meaning the high numbers will last a little longer.
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I looked up the Merrick Purrfect Bistro Duck (which is what i gave her) and saw 16% DM carbs on this site. Merrick Purrfect Bistro Grain Free Duck Pâté Cat Food Review (catfooddb.com) The problem I was running into when trying to calculate it myself using the carb calculator, is that no ash is listed on the label. I dont know how this site got that number. Since you are saying is lower, then it must have been the dry that bumped up the #'s. I guess I need to buy some higher carb food. I have a list, I just thought this one would be ok.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
That 16% is on a dry matter basis. We want %calories from carbs on an as fed basis. This post gives an example that shows why the DMB can be so much different: Calculating % Calories from Carbohydrates
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Ok, I dont understand why you are using as fed #'s but if thats the case then it looks like Merrick isnt high carbs after all. I was just using this site Carbohydrate & Calorie Online Calculator | Feline Nutrition Center (felinenutritioncalculators.com) to calculate. But the can doesnt list ash. I did find it however on a site where they had this for sale and it lists ash as 2.5 so i did a calculation using that and it did indeed come out to 3.5 as fed carbs. I guess at lease with the dry (I was using Origen Regional red), that she likes, I know I can raise the numbers if need be. I will buy some of the higher carb wet foods tho.
 
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