1/29 Fred AMPS 486 radiologist report

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https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/1-28-fred-amps-326-5-276-9-86-vet-update.258523/

I received the radiologist's report a bit ago. I just spoke with my regular vet, and she was happy because she said the radiologist who read it is their favorite go-to guy. However, and I didn't realize this, without an ultrasound, vets are apparently not supposed to comment on anything involving "thickness" or the like with x-rays. But I did glean some more information on what the "odd" view of the stomach was. My vet said it seemed a little pushed in, which could be "bad" or could be that his stomach was contracting because he had just vomited. So, the report is more along the lines of "take it for what it's worth". We are scheduled for an ultrasound on Tuesday.

One thing I'm furious about is they didn't send out blood for the fPLI! We (the new vet and I) had specifically spoken about it, and I said I wanted it done. Who WOULDN'T do it in a situation like this?? Super pissed about that.

I'll paste below. Just FYI, we've been aware of the kidney situation for years. It's why I watch his kidney values like a hawk. And he DID have some high protein dry about 2 hours before the bloodwork. (though it came up in the car) Oh, and he's likely not really a Chartreux. We just kind of wondered that when we first adopted him, and somehow, it made its way into his records. He's just a handsome gray guy.

HISTORY

Consult Type: MVRFILM INTERP 1-8 IMAGES, SIG: DOB: 9/3/2008, Age: 13.4 Y, Sex: M ALTERED, Wt: 17.0lbs, Breed: Chartreux, Species: FELINE, Images: 3, Case Details: 1 week history of hyporexia and occasional vomiting. Has vomited 3 x over the past week. Hx of DM and is on levemir 5U BID. Owner monitors BG at home. Bloodwork performed in hospital and showed a BUN of 58mg/dl and hypokalemia at 3.0 meq/l. UA showed no ketones and a USG of 1.046.

Findings

2 electronically transmitted images, including ventrodorsal and right lateral radiographs of the thoracic and abdominal regions (trunk) are provided for review, acquired January 28, 2022.

The left renal silhouette is significantly reduced in size and irregular in shape. The right kidney is normal in size. There are several 1-5 mm mineral opacity calculi in the renal pelvic regions bilaterally, larger and more numerous within the left renal pelvis.
The stomach and small bowel segments contain a very small amount of fluid and gas consistent with recent fasting or anorexia. The colon contains a moderate amount of partially formed feces and gas. The urinary bladder is moderately distended with fluid consistent with recent urination. The caudal ventral margins of the liver are slightly rounded and extend caudal to the costal arch, consistent with mild diffuse hepatomegaly. There is normal serosal detail.
There are several narrowed intervertebral disc spaces and intervertebral foramina in the visible portions of the spine, consistent with degenerative intervertebral disc disease, and there are changes consistent with spondylosis deformans of variable severity at several of these sites.
The lung pattern and cardiovascular structures are normal.
The pet is obese.

Conclusion

Renal changes consistent with chronic renal disease with bilateral renal pelvic calculi and significant loss of left renal parenchyma. (Considering the reported concentrated urine specific gravity the BUN elevation could be more likely secondary to gastrointestinal blood loss or a high protein meal ingested prior to bloodwork, assuming creatinine is normal and the reported urine specific gravity is accurate.)
Empty stomach and small bowel segments consistent with a history of partial anorexia and vomiting or fasting prior to radiography.
The cause of vomiting anorexia is not determined. Gastroenteritis of infectious or parasitic origin, secondary to inflammatory bowel disease or diffuse intestinal neoplasia such as small cell lymphoma are possible. Chronic pancreatitis cannot be ruled out.
Mild hepatomegaly consistent with a diffuse hepatopathy such as a vacuolar hepatopathy secondary to diabetes mellitus or hepatic lipidosis.
Chronic degenerative spinal changes.
Normal thoracic soft-tissue structures.
 
That is an interesting report. You must be glad to have that and having the ultrasound on Tuesday will hopefully give you all the answers.
Very frustrating they didnt do the fPL…..I wonder if they have the blood still at the lab and can do the test. It would be worth asking the vet if they can run that test if they still have the blood. They don’t usually get rid of the blood straight away….just a thought.
 
Very interesting. Did you know he had spinal issues? Does he seem arthritic to you?

Wait to see what the ultrasound says. It won't tell you if it's IBD or SCL--only an endoscopy will tell you that--but if there is indeed thickening then you know what to do next.
 
Did you know he had spinal issues? Does he seem arthritic to you?
No, I wouldn't have said so, because he's not shown indication of it. But just based on his age, I'm not surprised. I don't think it pains him, at least as I can tell. I do give him Duralactin as an anti-inflammatory measure, hoping it would help with preventing pancreatitis flares. I have his civvie Sadie on it for her arthritis, which is pretty extensive, and it helps her tremendously.

but if there is indeed thickening then you know what to do next.
Yes. *sigh* I both want and dread the answers. I know you've been through it with Ruby...both of you are troupers!
 
They did the labs in house, so, unfortunately, they didn't keep any. My regular vet checked. So frustrating
The fPL test is a separate test to the normal routine blood tests and needs to be sent off site. There is a fPL snap test they can do on-site which will just tell you yes/no there is pancreatitis. Very frustrating for you.
 
I both want and dread the answers.
I'm really glad I went through the trouble of getting a definitive diagnosis because the pred has helped so much. SCL isn't going to be the thing that takes Ruby from me, it's going to be something else, but alleviating the symptoms has improved her quality of life enormously and she seems like a much happier cat. I know you want that for Fred, too. :bighug:
 
https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/1-28-fred-amps-326-5-276-9-86-vet-update.258523/

I received the radiologist's report a bit ago. I just spoke with my regular vet, and she was happy because she said the radiologist who read it is their favorite go-to guy. However, and I didn't realize this, without an ultrasound, vets are apparently not supposed to comment on anything involving "thickness" or the like with x-rays. But I did glean some more information on what the "odd" view of the stomach was. My vet said it seemed a little pushed in, which could be "bad" or could be that his stomach was contracting because he had just vomited. So, the report is more along the lines of "take it for what it's worth". We are scheduled for an ultrasound on Tuesday.

One thing I'm furious about is they didn't send out blood for the fPLI! We (the new vet and I) had specifically spoken about it, and I said I wanted it done. Who WOULDN'T do it in a situation like this?? Super pissed about that.

I'll paste below. Just FYI, we've been aware of the kidney situation for years. It's why I watch his kidney values like a hawk. And he DID have some high protein dry about 2 hours before the bloodwork. (though it came up in the car) Oh, and he's likely not really a Chartreux. We just kind of wondered that when we first adopted him, and somehow, it made its way into his records. He's just a handsome gray guy.

HISTORY

Consult Type: MVRFILM INTERP 1-8 IMAGES, SIG: DOB: 9/3/2008, Age: 13.4 Y, Sex: M ALTERED, Wt: 17.0lbs, Breed: Chartreux, Species: FELINE, Images: 3, Case Details: 1 week history of hyporexia and occasional vomiting. Has vomited 3 x over the past week. Hx of DM and is on levemir 5U BID. Owner monitors BG at home. Bloodwork performed in hospital and showed a BUN of 58mg/dl and hypokalemia at 3.0 meq/l. UA showed no ketones and a USG of 1.046.

Findings

2 electronically transmitted images, including ventrodorsal and right lateral radiographs of the thoracic and abdominal regions (trunk) are provided for review, acquired January 28, 2022.

The left renal silhouette is significantly reduced in size and irregular in shape. The right kidney is normal in size. There are several 1-5 mm mineral opacity calculi in the renal pelvic regions bilaterally, larger and more numerous within the left renal pelvis.
The stomach and small bowel segments contain a very small amount of fluid and gas consistent with recent fasting or anorexia. The colon contains a moderate amount of partially formed feces and gas. The urinary bladder is moderately distended with fluid consistent with recent urination. The caudal ventral margins of the liver are slightly rounded and extend caudal to the costal arch, consistent with mild diffuse hepatomegaly. There is normal serosal detail.
There are several narrowed intervertebral disc spaces and intervertebral foramina in the visible portions of the spine, consistent with degenerative intervertebral disc disease, and there are changes consistent with spondylosis deformans of variable severity at several of these sites.
The lung pattern and cardiovascular structures are normal.
The pet is obese.

Conclusion

Renal changes consistent with chronic renal disease with bilateral renal pelvic calculi and significant loss of left renal parenchyma. (Considering the reported concentrated urine specific gravity the BUN elevation could be more likely secondary to gastrointestinal blood loss or a high protein meal ingested prior to bloodwork, assuming creatinine is normal and the reported urine specific gravity is accurate.)
Empty stomach and small bowel segments consistent with a history of partial anorexia and vomiting or fasting prior to radiography.
The cause of vomiting anorexia is not determined. Gastroenteritis of infectious or parasitic origin, secondary to inflammatory bowel disease or diffuse intestinal neoplasia such as small cell lymphoma are possible. Chronic pancreatitis cannot be ruled out.
Mild hepatomegaly consistent with a diffuse hepatopathy such as a vacuolar hepatopathy secondary to diabetes mellitus or hepatic lipidosis.
Chronic degenerative spinal changes.
Normal thoracic soft-tissue structures.
Well… they’re trying to cover all the bases there, aren’t they? They don’t know, and they mention everything. It’s more descriptive than diagnostic, which is okay since we need to wait for the ultrasound. After reading this, I actually feel better. As you said, you knew about the kidney for years. I have read it in your signature for a long time. A lot of what they have written in this report is typical of a cat of Fred’s age. I’ve seen it before. Hang in there! How is Fred in doing today?
 
Fred is a beautiful boy! I had wondered if Fred might be a British Short hair? My son had one and at 18months old, he was bigger than both of my two 7 year old kitties, weighed a whole lot more too.

I am very sorry to hear no fpl :bighug: But if you suspect pancreatitis, your vet can treat for it could you not? I think you are very fortunate you have the ultrasound scheduled and not having to wait for weeks. Thx for keeping us posted
 
Yes. I thought the obese comment was insulting!
Seriously! What happened to "Body Positive"? ;-) But it makes me feel a bit better that you've seen those comments on reports before. They certainly are covering their bases.

I had wondered if Fred might be a British Short hair
He's definitely not a British Short Hair, though I can see why you might think that. I have to get a better photo of him...I have many to choose from! ;-) I perhaps shouldn't dismiss his possible French lineage so quickly. He does have many of the Chartreux characteristics. He and Sadie had been rescued from a hoarding situation, so who knows where that person was collecting their cats from? But...he's just my Freddie Boy.

How is Fred in doing today?
I'll start a new thread, but he was pretty good yesterday! He ate breakfast and dinner without too much fuss, though I'd say he's still rather lethargic. He definitely wanted his dry food. I got a gentle swipe across the face in the middle of the night for a snack, which means, "NOW, lady!" (They'd finished their timer food)
 
I had a similar experience when Max got his first ultrasound. He was anorexic and I asked for a SpecfPL as well. The vet didn’t do it based upon the vet that did the ultrasound saying he suspected everything BUT pancreatitis. I went through an awful week before seeing my regular vet to see if Max needed exploratory surgery. He said he wasn’t convinced he needed anything. He made me have another ultrasound done by a board certified radiologist and ran a pancreatic panel and fPL. Max had chronic pancreatitis. Never had cancer. Never needed surgery. So try not to worry too much until you get the ultrasound and make sure it’s done by a radiologist and not a regular traveling vet. I had the disc from the first one but my vet said it was useless as a lot depends on what they see when they preform the ultrasound. :bighug:
 
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