12/15 more surgery for Donovan's buddy Butthead -prayers pls

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  1. Cyn and Cosmo

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    MJ- I'm going to be in Jamaica Plain in the late afternoon tomorrow anyway. if you'd like me to drop into Angell and lend some moral support, please let me know.

    sending healing vines and plenty of snowflakes (though... we did just have a blizzard, eh?)
     
  2. Caryl & Sebastian & Alex (GA)

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    We're thinking good thoughts for Butthead here in NJ, MJ. He is in our prayers..as you are too :YMHUG:
     
  3. MJ+Donovan

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    Just got back from the vet (removed Butthead's stitches).
    It's metastatic cancer :cry:
     
  4. Karrie and Maverick

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    I'm so sorry MJ. I wish I could give you a real hug. (((((((((((MJ and Butthead))))))))).

    You are in very good hands and you have a treatment plan in place. I will be saying prayers for him. You both will stay in my thoughts.
     
  5. CD and BigMac

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    Oh no! I am so very sorry. This is devastating... gosh, I'm crying with you. What is next? Can they do chemo? I have no clue -- so I'm just rambling.
    Ah, ((((MJ))))) hugs and more hugs to you and (((((((Butthead))))) :cry: :cry: :cry:
     
  6. Caryl & Sebastian & Alex (GA)

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    OH MJ I am so sorry. Well this is just not okay. We are going to fight this, right?
    Oh, sweetie....I feel so bad I can't even express it. I want to say something wise and comforting but I just don't know what. Do you and your vet have a course of treatment planned?
    ((((MJ)))) (((Butthead))))
     
  7. MJ+Donovan

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    Don't know much yet.
    Vet thinks the oncologist (a former colleague) is gung-ho on Palladia. Never heard of it, so am Googling. Seems like it's fairly new and has been used on dogs, but not so much on cats. Allegedly good for aggressive tumors like Butthead's.

    Don't know :cry:
     
  8. BJM

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    sad to see that. {{hugs}}

    There are numerous factors to consider in cancer treatment (regardless of species), such as:
    purpose (comfort/palliation, stabilization, remission/cure)
    cost (monetary AND emotional/mental stress)
    time (ex. travel, treatment durations, recovery durations)
    discomfort (nausea/pain)
    possible complications
    extent of disease - metastasis is about a stage 4
    current health status of the patient
    how well the patient copes with medical procedures.

    I posted elsewhere about Pepper, one of my household who developed osteosarcoma. Note that the type of cancer is important; my experiences with Pepper may not apply to a different kind of cancer.
     
  9. Ella & Rusty & Stu(GA)

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    (((((((((MJ))))))))) (((((((((Butthead)))))))))
    Wrapping you in hugs and still thinking positively.

    Ella & Rusty
     
  10. Cyn and Cosmo

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    when Cosmo was sort of diagnosed with lymphoma or sarcoma, Dr B told me that cats respond REALLY well to chemo/radiation. He assured me that they don't get nearly the side effects us humans do, plus their course of treatment is much shorter. I think that the oncologist tomorrow will let you know the best options, but you have to let them know what your financial limitations are... i used to ask Dr B what he would do if Cosmo were his cat and money were no object. If we were only considering Cosmo's happiness and his quality of life.

    Did they say anything about margins? i mean... metastatic... does that mean that they know there are other tumors somewhere else? I guess these questions will get asked or answered tomorrow.

    (((MJ)))
     
  11. Ronnie & Luna

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    ((((MJ))))
    lots of positive thoughts for strength to get though this
     
  12. housecats4

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    Prayers and angels with tons of healing green light coming your way Butthead stay strong and keep on happy feet dance so sweet Hugsssssssssss Trey & Kath
     
  13. Nina and KB

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    Many hugs MJ. I hope there are some good TX approaches, and that it turns out to be a good prognosis.
     
  14. Dyana

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    Hugs to you, ((((MJ)))) and thinking and keeping possitive thoughts for Butthead.
     
  15. MJ+Donovan

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    It kinda went like this: they took Butthead to that Secret Back Area to remove his stitches, and when the vet came back with him, she mentioned his appt with the oncologist tomorrow. I said I wasn't sure what to expect since I don't know his biopsy results yet. "Oh, it metastasized to both nodes. I thought I called you." Um, no, you didn't :-|. Thanks for dropping a bomb on me like that. While the news wasn't completely unexpected, I was too stunned to think and ask coherent questions, so I don't know how much of the margins were removed. The oncologist was sent the report and should be able to answer that.
     
  16. Cheryl & Whiskers (GA)

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    Hello Ms. MJ and Butthead,

    I'm so sorry your vet just dropped a bomb :eek: . Whiskers and I will cross our fingers toes and paws for all of you. Keeping you in our prayers for a good oncologist appointment.
     
  17. Frip&Grip

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    (((MJ))) I'm so sorry you found out this way.. :cry: Sending lots of positive thoughts, healing vines and prayers for (((Butthead))).
     
  18. Lisa and Do Lou (GA)

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    ((((((MJ)))))) I am so sorry about the news healing vines and white light being sent
     
  19. Ella & Rusty & Stu(GA)

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    MJ, we are sending prayers and positive thoughts for Butthead's appointment with the oncologist today. I do so hope that the prognosis will be good. Try to be positive and give that little guy lots of loving.
    Many hugs,

    Ella & Rusty
     
  20. Michelle and Mannie (GA)

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    I am so sorry for the diagnosis. Mannie and I send many positive thoughts for the appt with the oncologist today. I hope for a good prognosis. Lots of hugs for you and Butthead.
     
  21. Karrie and Maverick

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    I'm keeping you two in my thoughts today. Sending lots of hugs for Butthead. Please pass them on.
     
  22. Ele & Blackie (GA)

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    I am so sorry to hear about he biopsy results. (((((MJ))))) I hope the chemo works quickly and completely. I'm sending prayers and healing vines for Butthead.
     
  23. MJ+Donovan

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    Leaving in a few minutes. I don't have a laptop or smartphone (just a dumb one), so won't be able to update until later.

    Thank you so much for your positive thoughts.
     
  24. Sienne and Gabby (GA)

    Sienne and Gabby (GA) Senior Member Moderator

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    More good thoughts, snowflakes, and vines. Please update when you can.
     
  25. Ann & Tess GA

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    Sending white light for a good report today!

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  26. mybuddybinks

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    calling all angels...and sending them to you, MJ.

    holding you and butthead tight in our hearts and thoughts...and praying for the best.

    celi & binks
     
  27. Marje and Gracie

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    AAhhh...MJ...not the news we all wanted to hear and you are being so brave about it. Even if you have your suspicions, the actual words (esp when delivered in the way they were) sort of knock the breath out of you. We're so sorry and we hope the oncologist can shed some light on positive treatments that will help him. Sending many healing vines and tons of snowflakes....since we have them today!
     

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  28. MJ+Donovan

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    Very brief update.... at tbp now and the sooner I finish what I have to do here, the sooner I can get back home to Butthead. We decided to try Palladia. It's oral chemo given every other day. Might have to experiment coating with butter, cream cheese (a favorite snack), or pill pockets. I don't think pilling him will be simple. Cannot crush and give in food.

    thanks.... back with more details later

    MJ&Donovan&Butthead
     
  29. Ann & Maggie11 (GA)

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    Vines and prayers for you and Butthead. I hope the pilling goes easy - sounds like you have some creative ideas. Good luck with the oral chemo. Hugs.
     
  30. Karrie and Maverick

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  31. Caryl & Sebastian & Alex (GA)

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    Hi MJ! Hi Butthead!
    Just popping in to tell you that me and the boys have been thinking about you and checking for updates all day. Happy to hear that you have a plan! A plan is always a good thing. I know that you can get Butthead to take that pill. Big hugs to both of you....and keep the updates coming

    :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG:

    Jackson sends you each a big head butt (and one for Donovan too) :razz:
     
  32. WCF and Meowzi

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    MJ, you should be able to request and receive a copy of the pathology report from your vet, if you're interested in reading it. I hope the oncologist answered your questions.

    We were unable to pill Meowzi a couple of years ago when she had to take a chemo pill (cytoxan). We made arrangements with our vet techs and showed up at the hospital and they'd take her in the back and pop it down her throat, then they'd bring her back out and we chased with a small snack. Maybe you can ask your vet if the techs can do it for you.
     
  33. Pat+Raja+Shadow (GA)

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    Thinking of you tonight...and ((((((Butthead))))))....
    Praying that he will do well with the treatment....and that you will find the pilling is okay with butter or whatever little tricks work. Sending a blizzard of snowflakes to your boy....
    Positive thoughts and healing vines to you Butthead....we are all rooting for you sweetie....
    ((((MJ))))sending love and strength to you ....
     
  34. Jill & Alex (GA)

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    mj, i'm also thinking of you tonight. sending lots of healing vines and many, many positive thoughts.
    i'm sorry you're having to go through this with butthead.
    (((huge hugs)))
     
  35. Linda and Bear Man

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    I am keeping you and Butthead in my thoughts.
     
  36. Tena and Curry(GA)

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    Lots and lots of prayers for Butthead, Donovan and you, MJ.

    Hoping for the best.
     
  37. Janice & Johnny

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    MJ, I'm just seeing the news about the cancer. I'm so sorry to hear this. I'm glad for you and Butthead that there's a treatment that sounds promising. Good luck! Tons of hugs coming your way for the way the doctor 'told' you. That's terrible. Positive vibes, healing vines, snow....you've got it all coming your way! Hugs to you. Give Butthead a pat from me.
     
  38. MJ+Donovan

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    12/30 Donovan's buddy Butthead @oncologist

    Headed out to Angell Animal Medical Center in Boston this morning with Butthead. I plopped him in the litterbox just before we left, and he dutifully piddled. Such a good boy. He is accustomed to shorter trips, so 10-15 min in he was like Are We There Yet? Let Me Outttt. Butthead has a barely perceptible meow, so it was mostly him headbutting the sides of his soft carrier. He was next to me on the passenger seat, so I gave him lots of scritches.

    Didn't get lost finding the place. Let's just say I've had several very long adventures in the Boston area before (no GPS), so was happy not to have to backtrack through those often nonsensical street patterns. Had to wait a bit after checking in, and then we were escorted to an exam room where a technician got his weight, temp, and heart rate, and then asked for a brief summary of the events that brought me and Butthead there. I believe my theory about Butthead and authority figures who have a Y chromosome is correct. He wasn't thrilled with this guy, yet all of the techs (females!) at the VCA where he had his surgeries just loooove him, and he loves them back. He hates his regular vet too, who also has the Y chromosome issue. Bottom line is, apparently Butthead really likes women.

    I let Butthead wander around the exam room while we were waiting for the vet. He walked on the counter/exam area, sat on the office chair, sniffed the printer, turned around and did happy pee-pee tail to everything, and.... decided to investigate the sink. Maybe he was thirsty? Unfortunately, the faucet was one of those motion-activated things, and he set it off :shock:. He didn't get too wet, but he did avoid that area afterward. Finally the vet and another technician arrived (female!).

    ***Note to anyone who has a cat with potato farms in their ears like Butthead: apparently ears that are actively producing "stuff" and/or become inflamed or irritated on a regular basis are more prone to cell mutations. I never thought about it that way. Just thought Dang, some cats always have dirty ears. Try to keep an eye on them.

    Given that Butthead's ear canal ablation showed clean margins, and whatever was left behind grew back so quickly, the vet recommended either carboplatin (IV chemo) or Palladia (oral chemo). From what I could understand, carboplatin is used more for existing tumors, and Palladia is better for keeping bad cells from getting to that point. While carboplatin would be effective more quickly vs. Palladia which takes several weeks to build up, carboplatin requires more visits for treatment and more monitoring. I would not have any issue with that if it was the only deciding factor. But there is very little data on use of Palladia in cats, except that vet says it seems effective and well-tolerated. Vet asked if I wanted some time to think about it, but I felt the sooner we start, the better. Palladia could not have been started any sooner because of its mode of action -- it would have affected his healing after surgery. Could also theoretically use BOTH drugs, and/or switch to the other if it appears not to be working. Vet tech was leaning toward Palladia. I decided to try that first. Once Butthead starts the drug, he will have to have his blood tested in a week (CBC, which I can get done locally), and vet wants to see him again in a month. Also have to watch for side effects, mostly stomach upset. I mentioned dietary changes (like maybe finally get rid of ALL the HC food and kibble in the house? - theory that sugar feeds cancer cells), but she did not seem concerned aside from giving him good quality food. I'm still going to lobby for removal of the Kitty Crack though. That crap isn't good for any of them.

    Butthead and his women.... vet had her laptop on the counter and Butthead lay down beside it and stretched out his paw on the keyboard :roll:. They left and she typed up a summary of the visit to give me. I'm cheating and looking at it now -- very good idea because who ever remembers everything the doctor says?

    Drive home took much longer than the drive out. Sucky traffic for no visible reason; typical Massachusetts. Butthead wanted OUT of his carrier, so I relented and set him free, but I put his harness and leash on just in case. He's really good though. He likes to look out the windows, hang out on the back seat, and most of all my lap. He was purring, silent meowing, and making happy feet. This is not an ill cat! I was completely covered in Butthead fur by the time we got home.

    I have yet to give him a pill. Have to see how that goes tonight. He does NOT like anyone futzing with his mouth, so I think I will have to combine it with something pleasant like nummy fuds. I wonder if the others will catch on like they did when it was Donny's pokey time. They discovered he got a treat then, and darnit, they wanted one too.

    THANK YOU again for all of your support for Butthead and me.
    We really needed it. Thank you.
    I think I will start a new thread for any further updates. This one has grown rather large :oops:

    MJ&Donovan&Butthead
     
  39. Roni and Moonie

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    Just wanted to send my strongest Prayers & Blizzards of Snowflakes for Butthead's getting well!!
    Hope the drug will cure what ails him--What a wonderful bean you are & what a lucky kitty--Giant Hugs from us
     
  40. Cyn and Cosmo

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    UGH. My previous post got eaten by FDMB.

    It sounds like a really really nice vet visit at Angell. I'm glad Butthead liked his vettybean!!

    As for pilling.... did you ask vet if there was an injectable form of Palladia? I always asked. Most vets don't think that any owners would be more comfortable injecting vs pilling... but they don't know about the vampire club!

    If you must pill... the pill pockets work ok. Some tricks: make sure to follow directions on the bag where you don't use the same fingers that touch the pill to smoosh up the pill pocket - avoid transferring smell of the pill. Also, you can try smashing up some kibble or dry treats and roll the outside of the pill pocket in them... kind of like coating chicken for frying.

    Cosmo got wise to this though.. .he started eating around the pill (he must've chomped on the pill once). So then I started giving him some treats, then the pill pocket, then more treats. He was a greedy treat eater and snorfed them down as quick as possible, unless he was having a p-itis attack.

    I hope that helps, MJ. I'm glad you and Butthead are home safe.
     
  41. mybuddybinks

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    covered in Butthead fur...love it!

    is there any better accessory than Furbaby?

    glad your visit went well, MJ...
     
  42. Caryl & Sebastian & Alex (GA)

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    I feel much better reading about Butthead's visit today. STAY POSITIVE!!!! Your head butting little dude sounds like he is in good hands. Love and MORE healing vines and snwflakes coming from Alex, Jackson and Moi ♥♥♥
     
  43. carolynandlatte

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    (((((((((((((MJ))))))))))))))))

    I have NO doubt Butthead is in the best hands and will end up in great health!

    Best wishes for a health and happy new year!
     
  44. Ele & Blackie (GA)

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    I'm sending strong healing vines and prayers for Butthead. I really hope the chemo works quickly with no side effects and that Butthead stays happy and healthy. ((((MJ))))
     
  45. MJ+Donovan

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    to answer a few questions here before creating a new Butthead thread:

    Palladia is only available in pills, and since it has to be given every other day, bringing him to the vet's office to do that is kinda unreasonable. Last night he had his first pill, and I coated it in cream cheese. After I jammed it in his mouth he was like Waltz Tango Foxtrot? but then got distracted when I offered him more unadultered cream cheese. Hopefully he won't figure out the little game. Donovan hid from me when it was pokey/shot time at first, but he got over that.

    No obvious side effects yet, but don't know how soon they would show up.

    Your thoughts and prayers and encouragement mean more to me than you could possibly know.
    Thank you. And Butthead thanks you.

    MJ&Donovan&Butthead

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    (Butthead's Y2K photo)
     
  46. chriscleo

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    get a long, skinny pill popper. cleo was a monster to pill, and you have to remember chemo shouldn't be touched by others so it's just easier to place pill way at back of throat so he doesn't spit it out. follow immediately with a squirt of water so it doesn't irritate his throat.

    we used every other day chemo also (leukeran at one point, then cytoxan).

    just be careful to watch him, especially to see if he looks like his legs hurt. palladia basically works on cancers that are carried along by blood vessels (or are highly vascular) so cats on it can get blood vessel abnormalities. also watch for GI trouble (bad diarrhea), for which you may need metronidazole (flagyl). many cats do much better on palladia than dogs do, but the doses often have to be adjusted. so far i've heard it works best on mast cell tumors and neuroendocrine tumors, but it's been tried on pets with all kinds of cancers. butthead's not on prednisone or prednisolone, is he? if so he needs to be watched even more carefully for gastointestinal trouble. lots of oncologists are very keen on palladia right now, and i'm hoping it does a great job for butthead.
     
  47. MJ+Donovan

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    Thank you for the input. Yeah, I handled the pill with gloves, and informed anyone who removes gifts from the litterbox not to do it bare-handed ( :shock: - no worries, we use a scoop and clumping litter). I'm going to get a pill popper in case I end up needing it. Butthead is not on any other meds.
     
  48. mybuddybinks

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    hooray for the first pilling!!!


    and MJ...you and your babies mean more to us than you could possibly know..

    happy new year you guys!
     
  49. MJ+Donovan

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    pilling fail.

    Well... crap. I just found the pill I gave Butthead yesterday spit out onto the scratch box near where he was sleeping. I gave him more cream cheese after pilling, and then he washed himself, so I don't know how or when the heck he expelled it :? . It was quite intact aside from the outer coating being partially dissolved.

    I gave him another one. He wasn't happy about it. Gotta find a better and more successful way of doing this. If Petco is open tomorrow, I'll see if I can get a piller thingy.

    :-|
     
  50. CD and BigMac

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    Uh oh. Butthead is one smart kitty. Sorry about the pill ejection button he pushed. I guess he enjoyed his cream cheese and spit out the 'pit' as if it was a martini olive. :roll:
    Good luck. I hope you can find one of those pill poppers. They look handy.

    LOL on his New Year's photo from Y2K. Hahahaha! What a pose!
     
  51. Cheryl & Whiskers (GA)

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    Hi MJ and butthead,

    I can't recall from the posts if you have tried the pill pockets. We use them with 2 pets and they gobble them up (such a godsend). We usually feed right after pill pocket, just to make sure it goes all the way down, and it has been really successful for us.

    Sending prayers for all of you!
     
  52. WCF and Meowzi

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    Meowzi is a master of spit-the-pill-out-where-daddy-can't-find-it-so-he'll-get-in-trouble :mrgreen:

    I had to read this site several times before it sank in, but when it did, pilling became so much more pleasant and easier for her and for us.

    Here are some tips on pilling from Sasha's condo almost a year ago viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4357&hilit=+sasha
    Skip any that suggests cutting or crushing - i don't think your chemo pill can be cut or crushed.
     
  53. Karrie and Maverick

    Karrie and Maverick Well-Known Member

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    Re: 12/15 more surgery for Donovan's buddy Butthead -prayers

    I wonder if you could also chase it with 6oz of tuna juice. Maverick LOVES his tuna juice chasers when he gets his pepcid. I don't know about this medication or things you need to avoid with it.
     
  54. Pat+Raja+Shadow (GA)

    Pat+Raja+Shadow (GA) Well-Known Member

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    Re: 12/15 more surgery for Donovan's buddy Butthead -prayers

    That link from WCF is wonderful....I learned a lot from it....many thanks WCF!
    I liked the part where you sit them down and have a little talk. Wishing you the very best with this pilling every other day MJ. Guess you have to tell Butthead that the pills don't do any good if they are on the floor. :sad:
    Thinking of you both today....as we begin a New Year....and wish the very best for you and yours.
    Sending continued healing vines to Butthead and a blizzard of snowflakes too....take your meds little guy.... :YMHUG: :YMHUG:
     
  55. mybuddybinks

    mybuddybinks Well-Known Member

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    Re: 12/15 more surgery for Donovan's buddy Butthead -prayers

    Hey, Butthead!!!

    let's make this your year to have good health, buddy...

    Wanted to wish you the best of everything in this new year...MJ...for you, yours, butthead...and the Inimitable Captain Donovan!

    with deepest affection and gratitude...

    celi & binks
     
  56. Marje and Gracie

    Marje and Gracie Senior Member Moderator

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    Re: 12/15 more surgery for Donovan's buddy Butthead -prayers

    MJ....love Butthead's picture!! Very cute. Sounds like you've gotten all the advice out there on pilling. I hope you will soon find something that works well for him. I like the idea of just having a talk with him :lol: :lol: Hugs to you all and healing vines for Butthead.
     
  57. Lisa and Do Lou (GA)

    Lisa and Do Lou (GA) Well-Known Member

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    Re: 12/15 more surgery for Donovan's buddy Butthead -prayers

    sending more healing vines for Butthead and hope he keeps that pill down thinking of you ((((((MJ))))))
     
  58. housecats4

    housecats4 Well-Known Member

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    Re: 12/15 more surgery for Donovan's buddy Butthead -prayers

    MJ not sure if this will help but to give our Mitzy a pill I have to hold her between my legs grab her mouth and force her to open it pop in the pill and rub her throat for a second while still holding her mouth shut. How come we all have to have one of them pill haters Angels and tons of prayers coming for Butthead. Sending tons and tons of Healing green light. Bless you Angels coming to help you now Kath & Trey and zoo
     
  59. mybuddybinks

    mybuddybinks Well-Known Member

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    Re: 12/15 more surgery for Donovan's buddy Butthead -prayers

    T'ank gooness da bean din't get u one a dese, butthead!!!
    binks
     

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    mybuddybinks Well-Known Member

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    Re: 12/15 more surgery for Donovan's buddy Butthead -prayers

    Hey, Donny...how u buddy BH doin?
    binks
     
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