2/12 Kona AMPS 385, +1 352, +3 333, +7.5 276, PMPS 284, +1 298, +3 225, +4 195

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

Welcome back to Kona's Crazy Adventures... if we're not stranded on a highway at 26 degrees for 14 hours in one season, we're in the ER for 8 hours on the next episode.

Overall, Kona is stable at this time. She ate this morning and I gave her full shot.

In summary: since Thursday 2/8, Kona hasn't been eating all that well or not at all, has had lots of diarrhea, and very lethargic. She has not been vomiting!

Yesterday's Post (PM shot was skipped was in the ER)

Toady's Summary:
3:12am - BG 405 returned from ER.
3:15am - Ate small amount of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:15am - AMPS 385
6:16am - Fed 1/2 can of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 1/8 can of Hill's Urgent Care (14%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:25am - Shot 1.0U
7:51am - BG 352
9:30am - Gave 8mg tablet of Cerenia
9:32am - Gave 1ml of Pro-Pectalin (Digestive Health and Probiotic Supplement)
9:41am - BG 333

Upcoming Tasks:
Get fecal sample of both cats - take to local vet for analysis.
12:00pm - Test BG and feed as/if needed

Medicines On Hand (as needed)
4 - pre-filled syringes of Entyce 15ml - Appetite Stimulate (was told it could raise BG, use only if needed)
12 - pre-filled syringes for oral application of Buprenorphine
4 - pills of Ondanseron 4mg
15 - pills of Gabapentin 100mg
2 & 1/2 - pills of Cerenia 16mg
1 - tube with 28ml of Pro-Pectalin (Digestive Health and Probiotic Supplement)
7 - Pivetal Probiotic Supplement for Cats For Daily GI Support
1 - bottle of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

Vet's Plan:

• ER Vet sent off a urine culture, test results are pending.
• Local Vet wants fecal sample.

If both come back insignificant, moving to ultrasound if Kona is still not eating on her own or continues to have diarrhea or any issues.

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

@Wendy&Neko @tiffmaxee @Marje and Gracie @Bandit's Mom



When/if you get a chance, any feedback or second pair of eyes on all this would be greatly appreciated. I'm just looking for anything jumping out that looks odd in all the test results that I should ask my vet when I bring in a fecal sample later today. Last night the ER vet basically said everything looked normal and sent me on my way, but I see a lot of lows and highs on these papers this morning. Normal vet this morning said if things don't go back to normal and this is NOT a transient thing, then she would like to do ultrasounds. If Kona eats fine tonight by being on Cerenia and maybe some of the other stuff they gave me, so I can give her shot, I'll feel a lot better...

I will go off and try to rest. I don't think Kona's going to drop BG too crazy, but I'll try to wake up here in an hour or so to test and keep an eye on her.

 

[Staci & Ivy]

4 - pills of Ondanseron 4mg
15 - pills of Gabapentin 100mg

Hi Jason, soooo glad you are home and Kona is doing much better. Prayers for continued improvement for sweet Kona. You are super Dad!!

I'm noting the above meds they discharged you with to go home....I suggest have your regular vet call in a script to your local pharmacy. Both of these meds are super cheap and have them on hand going forward in decent quantities (I have 30 pills in each with refills - if vet will agree to that). But I need to use gabapentin for all vet visits for Ivy and sometimes I need to use it for one reason or another (I try not to though).

Hope you can get some rest to recover.
PS....could we have less wild adventures, please? I had the hardest time sleeping last night with worry over you and Kona

 

[Staci & Ivy]

@Wendy&Neko @tiffmaxee @Marje and Gracie @Bandit's Mom



When/if you get a chance, any feedback or second pair of eyes on all this would be greatly appreciated. I'm just looking for anything jumping out that looks odd in all the test results that I should ask my vet when I bring in a fecal sample later today. Last night the ER vet basically said everything looked normal and sent me on my way, but I see a lot of lows and highs on these papers this morning. Normal vet this morning said if things don't go back to normal and this is NOT a transient thing, then she would like to do ultrasounds. If Kona eats fine tonight by being on Cerenia and maybe some of the other stuff they gave me, so I can give her shot, I'll feel a lot better...

I will go off and try to rest. I don't think Kona's going to drop BG too crazy, but I'll try to wake up here in an hour or so to test and keep an eye on her.

Maybe post with a question to get some expert eyes on the labs...

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

Hi Jason, soooo glad you are home and Kona is doing much better. Prayers for continued improvement for sweet Kona. You are super Dad!!

Thank you so much, too kind, Kona is my baby... I'd do anything!!!

I suggest have your regular vet call in a script to your local pharmacy. Both of these meds are super cheap and have them on hand going forward in decent quantities (I have 30 pills in each with refills - if vet will agree to that). But I need to use gabapentin for all vet visits for Ivy and sometimes I need to use it for one reason or another (I try not to though).

YES! Absolutely, I told my normal vet this morning that I need to have all these things in my emergency kit so I don't have to mess around and have to drive to differrent towns and wait 8-24 hours to get a simple pill or medicine that could have got me out of the crisis on my own. She is on-board, as far as quantities, who knows what's she's willing to write. I just want something to get me through 3 days minimum and the ability to refill when these things expire.

I had the hardest time sleeping last night with worry over you and Kona

I'm so sorry you lost sleep last night. It's tough finding a delicate balance wanting to keep people informed, but also recognizing extra worry that might be influenced by me giving too much information that makes it all appear more dramatic than it is. I got the drugs and she ate this morning, so we're off to a great start!

You're such a great support, thank you sooo much, Staci!!

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

FYI - This was the pancreatitis test the ER used. Be nice if we all could have a box on hand...

https://www.bionote.com/vcheck-fpl

PDF Brochure > Vcheck fPL

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

When you start to look up the stuff they give you....

Source: https://www.vetoquinolusa.com/products/pro-pectalin

 

[Cindy loves Tansi]

Welcome back to Kona's Crazy Adventures... if we're not stranded on a highway at 26 degrees for 14 hours in one season, we're in the ER for 8 hours on the next episode.

Overall, Kona is stable at this time. She ate this morning and I gave her full shot.

In summary: since Thursday 2/8, Kona hasn't been eating all that well or not at all, has had lots of diarrhea, and very lethargic. She has not been vomiting!

Yesterday's Post (PM shot was skipped was in the ER)

Toady's Summary:
3:12am - BG 405 returned from ER.
3:15am - Ate small amount of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:15am - AMPS 385
6:16am - Fed 1/2 can of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 1/8 can of Hill's Urgent Care (14%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:25am - Shot 1.0U
7:51am - BG 352
9:30am - Gave 8mg tablet of Cerenia
9:32am - Gave 1ml of Pro-Pectalin (Digestive Health and Probiotic Supplement)
9:41am - BG 333

Upcoming Tasks:
Get fecal sample of both cats - take to local vet for analysis.
12:00pm - Test BG and feed as/if needed

Medicines On Hand (as needed)
4 - pre-filled syringes of Entyce 15ml - Appetite Stimulate (was told it could raise BG, use only if needed)
12 - pre-filled syringes for oral application of Buprenorphine
4 - pills of Ondanseron 4mg
15 - pills of Gabapentin 100mg
2 & 1/2 - pills of Cerenia 16mg
1 - tube with 28ml of Pro-Pectalin (Digestive Health and Probiotic Supplement)
7 - Pivetal Probiotic Supplement for Cats For Daily GI Support
1 - bottle of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic

Welcome back to Kona's Crazy Adventures... if we're not stranded on a highway at 26 degrees for 14 hours in one season, we're in the ER for 8 hours on the next episode.

Overall, Kona is stable at this time. She ate this morning and I gave her full shot.

In summary: since Thursday 2/8, Kona hasn't been eating all that well or not at all, has had lots of diarrhea, and very lethargic. She has not been vomiting!

Yesterday's Post (PM shot was skipped was in the ER)

Toady's Summary:
3:12am - BG 405 returned from ER.
3:15am - Ate small amount of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:15am - AMPS 385
6:16am - Fed 1/2 can of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 1/8 can of Hill's Urgent Care (14%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:25am - Shot 1.0U
7:51am - BG 352
9:30am - Gave 8mg tablet of Cerenia
9:32am - Gave 1ml of Pro-Pectalin (Digestive Health and Probiotic Supplement)
9:41am - BG 333

Upcoming Tasks:
Get fecal sample of both cats - take to local vet for analysis.
12:00pm - Test BG and feed as/if needed

Medicines On Hand (as needed)
4 - pre-filled syringes of Entyce 15ml - Appetite Stimulate (was told it could raise BG, use only if needed)
12 - pre-filled syringes for oral application of Buprenorphine
4 - pills of Ondanseron 4mg
15 - pills of Gabapentin 100mg
2 & 1/2 - pills of Cerenia 16mg
1 - tube with 28ml of Pro-Pectalin (Digestive Health and Probiotic Supplement)
7 - Pivetal Probiotic Supplement for Cats For Daily GI Support
1 - bottle of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic

 

[Cindy loves Tansi]

Welcome back to Kona's Crazy Adventures... if we're not stranded on a highway at 26 degrees for 14 hours in one season, we're in the ER for 8 hours on the next episode.

Overall, Kona is stable at this time. She ate this morning and I gave her full shot.

In summary: since Thursday 2/8, Kona hasn't been eating all that well or not at all, has had lots of diarrhea, and very lethargic. She has not been vomiting!

Yesterday's Post (PM shot was skipped was in the ER)

Toady's Summary:
3:12am - BG 405 returned from ER.
3:15am - Ate small amount of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:15am - AMPS 385
6:16am - Fed 1/2 can of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 1/8 can of Hill's Urgent Care (14%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:25am - Shot 1.0U
7:51am - BG 352
9:30am - Gave 8mg tablet of Cerenia
9:32am - Gave 1ml of Pro-Pectalin (Digestive Health and Probiotic Supplement)
9:41am - BG 333

Upcoming Tasks:
Get fecal sample of both cats - take to local vet for analysis.
12:00pm - Test BG and feed as/if needed

Medicines On Hand (as needed)
4 - pre-filled syringes of Entyce 15ml - Appetite Stimulate (was told it could raise BG, use only if needed)
12 - pre-filled syringes for oral application of Buprenorphine
4 - pills of Ondanseron 4mg
15 - pills of Gabapentin 100mg
2 & 1/2 - pills of Cerenia 16mg
1 - tube with 28ml of Pro-Pectalin (Digestive Health and Probiotic Supplement)
7 - Pivetal Probiotic Supplement for Cats For Daily GI Support
1 - bottle of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic

Aw, get well soon Kona. Good job Dad.

 

[Wendy&Neko]

Ask your vet if they have another product with kaolin and pectin and the bacteria listed.

 

[Staci & Ivy]

Thank you so much, too kind, Kona is my baby... I'd do anything!!!



YES! Absolutely, I told my normal vet this morning that I need to have all these things in my emergency kit so I don't have to mess around and have to drive to differrent towns and wait 8-24 hours to get a simple pill or medicine that could have got me out of the crisis on my own. She is on-board, as far as quantities, who knows what's she's willing to write. I just want something to get me through 3 days minimum and the ability to refill when these things expire.



I'm so sorry you lost sleep last night. It's tough finding a delicate balance wanting to keep people informed, but also recognizing extra worry that might be influenced by me giving too much information that makes it all appear more dramatic than it is. I got the drugs and she ate this morning, so we're off to a great start!

You're such a great support, thank you sooo much, Staci!!

Please don’t apologize. It’s just my nature. Ignore me.
I would have been worse if you hadn’t kept us updated. Thank you for doing that!

 

[Lara & Luciole (Lu)]

Just wanted to ask about why the Entyce rather than continuing with Mirataz.
I don't want to be alarmist, but my cat who recently passed had a terrible reaction to it to put it mildly.

"Side effects include diarrhea, vomiting, increased drinking and urination, drooling, gas, nausea, abdominal pain, increased gastrointestinal sounds, head shaking, and lethargy. In cats, dehydration and infections have been reported. Bloodwork side effects include an increase in blood urea nitrogen (a kidney function indicator) and an increase in phosphorus levels."

He had all of this. Again, I don't want to stress you out, but if the Mirataz is working, why change?

 

[tiffmaxee]

From what I see a test for pancreatitis was not run. Nothing jumps out at me. None of those tests I see test for pancreatitis. Only 4 ondansetron is crazy. I’ve never used Entyce. I’ve heard cats drool when given so must taste awful. Mirataz or cyproheptadine is what I use. How’s Kona’s appetite today? Do you have cerenia ? For nausea I like ondansetron as I mentioned but you don’t have enough. You would need it for several days.

 

[Diane Tyler's Mom GA]

Hi Jason, sending prayers for sweet Kona that she continues to improve.

 

[Red & Rover (GA)]

Ask your vet for a prescription for the ondanestron. There is a human generic which should be a bit cheaper at a human pharmacy. Gabapentin likely is too.

 

[Wendy&Neko]

We've seen a few cats here try Entyce, with mixed success. I would never use it personally, but that's because it causes excess growth hormone to be produced and is contra indicated for kitties with acromegaly. Note, I don't think Kona has acro. The excess growth hormone is what could cause BG to go up.

I think Elise suggested 20 ondansetron in a previous message. I typically get 20 at a time. I would definitely get a prescription for onda that is good for "as needed" for a year that you can fill at any pharmacy. The 4 pills might tide you over until you get more, but depends if the pharmacy has it in stock.

As for labs, some of the values are out of range but could be because of inflammation or infection or stress or diarrhea. Basically telling you what you know. I'd ask the vet for her/his interpretation.

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

Ask your vet if they have another product with kaolin and pectin and the bacteria listed.

Good call out, I'll ask, thanks!!!

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

Please don’t apologize. It’s just my nature. Ignore me.
I would have been worse if you hadn’t kept us updated. Thank you for doing that!

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

Just wanted to ask about why the Entyce rather than continuing with Mirataz.
I don't want to be alarmist, but my cat who recently passed had a terrible reaction to it to put it mildly.

"Side effects include diarrhea, vomiting, increased drinking and urination, drooling, gas, nausea, abdominal pain, increased gastrointestinal sounds, head shaking, and lethargy. In cats, dehydration and infections have been reported. Bloodwork side effects include an increase in blood urea nitrogen (a kidney function indicator) and an increase in phosphorus levels."

He had all of this. Again, I don't want to stress you out, but if the Mirataz is working, why change?

Hey, Lara, Mirataz did work on Friday late afternoon when this all started. That first dose worked into the next day. Yesterday when I attempted to use it again, it didn't do anything for the entire day.

Thanks so much for the warning about Entyce. The vet called it that one of the side effects was that it could raise BG as well.

I was told to only use it if I absolutely have to.

It appears the Cerina is the key here and is what is getting her to eat. Maybe also the pain med injection... it was supposed to last for 24 hours.

I'm going into the vet now, I'll ask if I should try the Mirataz again tonight should she not eat. The bummer with Mirataz is it takes about 2 hours to kick in. I might ask if I should do it preemptively.

Both vets, really want me to limit the use of any medicines given unless needed, they really want to see if she can go without this stuff on her own.

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

From what I see a test for pancreatitis was not run. Nothing jumps out at me. None of those tests I see test for pancreatitis. Only 4 ondansetron is crazy. I’ve never used Entyce. I’ve heard cats drool when given so must taste awful. Mirataz or cyproheptadine is what I use. How’s Kona’s appetite today? Do you have cerenia ? For nausea I like ondansetron as I mentioned but you don’t have enough. You would need it for several days.

They did run the test for Pancreatitis. They used the Vcheck fPL.

The results was 2.3 ng/mL. Reference Range is 3.5 - 5.4

Anything under 3.5 was deemed very unlikely it is pancreatitis related.

Yes, only 4 ondansetron is crazy, although I haven't put her on it yet, I will ask for a prescription to get a bunch should we need it now or in the future. Thanks!

Yes, I was given Cerenia, but only a few pills, I'll ask for a prescription to get a bunch of those as well.

I think I'm going hold off on using Entyce unless I absolutely need to in an emergency, but I will probably try the Miracatz again to see if it will work.

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

Hi Jason, sending prayers for sweet Kona that she continues to improve.

Thanks, Diane!

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

Ask your vet for a prescription for the ondanestron. There is a human generic which should be a bit cheaper at a human pharmacy. Gabapentin likely is too.

Yes, will do! I'm heading in now to get all the prescriptions I can.

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

We've seen a few cats here try Entyce, with mixed success. I would never use it personally, but that's because it causes excess growth hormone to be produced and is contra indicated for kitties with acromegaly. Note, I don't think Kona has acro. The excess growth hormone is what could cause BG to go up.

I think Elise suggested 20 ondansetron in a previous message. I typically get 20 at a time. I would definitely get a prescription for onda that is good for "as needed" for a year that you can fill at any pharmacy. The 4 pills might tide you over until you get more, but depends if the pharmacy has it in stock.

As for labs, some of the values are out of range but could be because of inflammation or infection or stress or diarrhea. Basically telling you what you know. I'd ask the vet for her/his interpretation.

Okay, another good note on me refraining from using the Entyce. Thanks!

I will try to get 20 ondansetron.

Yes, the vet to say those values out of range are probably influenced by all the factors around this event. I'm bringing in my test results reports to my main vet now to have them look it over as well.

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

UPDATE:

BG has been steadily going down nice and slow and we are now in the yellow zone. This is great to get out of the pinks!
I gave her a small snack with the test and she ate it, so another great sign.

I'm off to the vet to drop off a fecal sample. I believe it is not Kona's, but her sister who also has diarrhea.

I'm guessing Kona hasn't pooped yet because maybe all the probiotics are working and the stool is getting more solid and forming. I'll try to catch her poop and run her fecal as well.

Toady's Summary:
3:12am - BG 405 returned from ER.
3:15am - Ate small amount of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:15am - AMPS 385
6:16am - Fed 1/2 can of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 1/8 can of Hill's Urgent Care (14%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:25am - Shot 1.0U
7:51am - BG 352
9:30am - Gave 8mg tablet of Cerenia
9:32am - Gave 1ml of Pro-Pectalin (Digestive Health and Probiotic Supplement)
9:41am - BG 333
1:54pm - BG 276
2:00pm - Fed 1 teaspoon of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + small amount from packet of Pivetal Probiotic Supplement for Cats For Daily GI Support

 

[cecile & bella]

Thank you for the update, Jason! I hope Kona will keep improving and both her and Cleo will be well now.

 

[squeem3]

The bupe is good for pain relief. Did the vet give you instructions on how to give it? You don't squirt it in the mouth like any other liquid med. You stick the tip of the syringe into the cheek pouch and squirt. The bupe will be absorbed by the mucous membranes. It has no effect if swallowed.

Feel better, Kona! You look better in blue and green, not pink and yellow.

 

[Lara & Luciole (Lu)]

Jason, absolutely a minimalist approach to medication is great. Overmedication brings all sorts of problems.

With the Mirataz, yes, you give it proactively, in anticipation of when you want Lady K to feel hungry, so if you have about a 2 hour envelope before it's working for Koha, then rub some on then, and it'll kick in when anticipated. And the Cerenia is great for this as well. It needs about an hour to take effect. You want to make sure she has Cerenia, so you're not making her feel hungry when she is nauseous. Cerenia is primarily a drug for nausea, but it has some nifty analgesic properties as well.

I'm not trying to play vet here - I feel so pompous - but I just went through this a couple times so far, and the last time very recently.

 

[Marje and Gracie]

I’m sorry Kona has not been well lately. I know you don’t feed (or I’m pretty sure you don’t) the following foods, however, if you’ve followed the concerns about Purina foods making pets ill and worse, Dr. Judy Morgan has also received reports about similar issues of pet illness and death in the foods below. You can watch her video here just in case you might have tried one of these foods.
- 4Health
- Orijen
- Acana
- Organix

• Blue Buffalo - Pure Balance
• Hill's
• Purina
• Instinct
• Royal Canin
• Kirkland
• Stella & Chewy's
• Merrick

- Taste of the Wild

On the first set of labs, she has high neutrophils which is indicative of inflammation or infection.

Here is great info on the different tests:
low calcium
low sodium likely the diarrhea she’s had
low PCO2
high PO2 -- I can’t find much on this in cats but believe it is related to total oxygen in blood dissolved in plasma
BEceF is Base Excess of the Extra Cellular Fluid; a lower value of this indicates metabolic acidosis; metabolic acidosis is more commonly seen in CKD cats but nothing about her labs indicates CKD.
high sO2: i’m not sure what this is; SO2 is sulfur dioxide and I’m not sure of it’s significance here and if that is what they are testing.

If it were me, I’d have someone sit down and explain what each of these parameters is and the significance of them being high or low. I wouldn’t just accept “everything’s ok”. Obviously there are acceptable ranges for these parameters for a reason.

You might check out the various probiotics and digestive enzymes at Adored Beast. I use Healthy Gut and Gut Soothe. They are exceptional and what my vet (holistic) always recommends. She has worked extensively with the owner and said she really knows “her stuff”. I also find Visbiome Vet to be an excellent probiotic.

Many, many vines for your sweet girl. I hope you can find someone who can help you with this.

 

[Mikanmama (Mikan GA)]

Glad you and Kona are home safe and sound.
It's frustrating not to know exactly what may be going on. Hope this is a acute something that Kona is in a process of recovery.
You must be exhausted - you are, as @Staci & Ivy said, super dad. Kona is lucky to have you.
Hope you get to relax tonight.

 

[Karolina & Nestle]

What a wild night Jason and Kona. But like @Staci & Ivy said you're Super Dad! I can't even imagine what you went through. Hopefully you got some well deserved rest. Sending PAWsitive thoughts and prayers to sweet Kona

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

The bupe is good for pain relief. Did the vet give you instructions on how to give it? You don't squirt it in the mouth like any other liquid med. You stick the tip of the syringe into the cheek pouch and squirt. The bupe will be absorbed by the mucous membranes. It has no effect if swallowed.

Feel better, Kona! You look better in blue and green, not pink and yellow.

Yes, they did, thanks so much for the callout. It's pretty much the same how I give her the 1-TDC dental capsules. Note: get it up in the cheek pouch/gums, in an effort to not have her just swallow it.

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

Jason, absolutely a minimalist approach to medication is great. Overmedication brings all sorts of problems.

With the Mirataz, yes, you give it proactively, in anticipation of when you want Lady K to feel hungry, so if you have about a 2 hour envelope before it's working for Koha, then rub some on then, and it'll kick in when anticipated. And the Cerenia is great for this as well. It needs about an hour to take effect. You want to make sure she has Cerenia, so you're not making her feel hungry when she is nauseous. Cerenia is primarily a drug for nausea, but it has some nifty analgesic properties as well.

I'm not trying to play vet here - I feel so pompous - but I just went through this a couple times so far, and the last time very recently.

Thanks, so far so good this afternoon. She is eating, thank goodness. I could drink a beer tonight to celebrate!!!

I'm holding off with Mirataz and will continue Cerenia after both Vets give me confidence they didn't find anything in fecal or urine cultures. Other than the ultrasound, we are ruling out everything we can. If we find nothing, I guess we will never know, it was just a GI issue of some sorts that was a very scary and expensive upset stomach.

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

I’m sorry Kona has not been well lately. I know you don’t feed (or I’m pretty sure you don’t) the following foods, however, if you’ve followed the concerns about Purina foods making pets ill and worse, Dr. Judy Morgan has also received reports about similar issues of pet illness and death in the foods below. You can watch her video here just in case you might have tried one of these foods.
- 4Health
- Orijen
- Acana
- Organix

• Blue Buffalo - Pure Balance
• Hill's
• Purina
• Instinct
• Royal Canin
• Kirkland
• Stella & Chewy's
• Merrick

- Taste of the Wild

This is great to know! I rarely give the Royal Canin Glycobalance when I want to boost carbs. It's a good 14% option for her, only for snacks to boost up BG. If I find another suitable 14%, I'll work on phasing it out.

I'll check out the video, thanks!

Here is great info on the different tests:
low calcium
low sodium likely the diarrhea she’s had
low PCO2
high PO2 -- I can’t find much on this in cats but believe it is related to total oxygen in blood dissolved in plasma
BEceF is Base Excess of the Extra Cellular Fluid; a lower value of this indicates metabolic acidosis; metabolic acidosis is more commonly seen in CKD cats but nothing about her labs indicates CKD.
high sO2: i’m not sure what this is; SO2 is sulfur dioxide and I’m not sure of it’s significance here and if that is what they are testing.

If it were me, I’d have someone sit down and explain what each of these parameters is and the significance of them being high or low. I wouldn’t just accept “everything’s ok”. Obviously there are acceptable ranges for these parameters for a reason.

Oh my, thank you so much for spending the time to do this research. I brought in the hard copies of all the test results to my primary vet's office today. I'm going to give her a chance to look at them, but I will for sure ask specific questions on these and look for a more comprehensive explanation. I paid big money for it after all... It drives me crazy that we have to ASK for the results.

You might check out the various probiotics and digestive enzymes at Adored Beast. I use Healthy Gut and Gut Soothe. They are exceptional and what my vet (holistic) always recommends. She has worked extensively with the owner and said she really knows “her stuff”. I also find Visbiome Vet to be an excellent probiotic.

This is great, I will check these products out. And yes, visbiome has been on my list for awhile now, as soon as I use up the current products, I'll switch over.

Many, many vines for your sweet girl. I hope you can find someone who can help you with this.

I appreciate you, thank you so much for the support!!!

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

Glad you and Kona are home safe and sound.
It's frustrating not to know exactly what may be going on. Hope this is a acute something that Kona is in a process of recovery.
You must be exhausted - you are, as @Staci & Ivy said, super dad. Kona is lucky to have you.
Hope you get to relax tonight.

Yes, I totally hope it is something acute. This has also been a lesson learned for me that I need to pick up dirty food plates the second they finish and I need to date cans of food in the fridge and just throw them out after 2 days max. I also want to clean water fountains more regularly as well.

I've been wondering the last few days if this is just bad hygiene on my part.

Thanks so much for the kind words, as always, and your support!!!

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

What a wild night Jason and Kona. But like @Staci & Ivy said you're Super Dad! I can't even imagine what you went through. Hopefully you got some well deserved rest. Sending PAWsitive thoughts and prayers to sweet Kona

Yah, nothing like sitting in the ER and hearing other caretakers sobbing and coming in with all sorts of critical cases and I was just sweating thinking of the worst for Kona. So far, if it is a transient issue, I think we got lucky and I'm blessed.

Thanks so much, Karolina!

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

UPDATE: Kona ate her dinner and I was able to give her the full shot. She pooped just now and it is starting to firm up. I collected it and put it in the fridge to take to the vet tomorrow so they can check it out. After the main poop, she has been going back and forth, back and forth between litterboxes trying to poop more. She's not making any noises and it doesn't appear she is there long or that it is uncomfortable, but going into it many times.... just trying to get a last bit out?

She is starting to be more active and less lethargic. All the best signs I can ask for! We love Cerenia over here!!!

BG has been high today, but understandable with all the recent events. Hoping to see more yellow

Toady's Summary:
3:12am - BG 405 returned from ER.
3:15am - Ate small amount of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:15am - AMPS 385
6:16am - Fed 1/2 can of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 1/8 can of Hill's Urgent Care (14%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:25am - Shot 1.0U
7:51am - BG 352
9:30am - Gave 8mg tablet of Cerenia
9:32am - Gave 1ml of Pro-Pectalin (Digestive Health and Probiotic Supplement)
9:41am - BG 333
1:54pm - BG 276
2:00pm - Fed 1 teaspoon of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + small amount from packet of Pivetal Probiotic Supplement for Cats For Daily GI Support
6:09pm - PMPS 284
6:15pm - Fed 1/4 can of TruLuxe Cat on the Wok (3.80%) + 1/2 can of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + small amount from packet of Pivetal Probiotic Supplement for Cats For Daily GI Support + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:25pm - Shot 1.0U

Upcoming Tasks:
7:30pm (+1) - Test BG and feed as/if needed
8:30pm (+2) - Test BG and feed as/if needed
9:30pm (+3) - Test BG and feed as/if needed

 

[tiffmaxee]

Am glad they tested for pancreatitis and it was negative. I did not see it when I looked. It was hard to find. I’m glad it’s negative too.

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

Am glad they tested for pancreatitis and it was negative. I did not see it when I looked. It was hard to find. I’m glad it’s negative too.

No worries, I did a blast of posts, totally understandable! Thanks for checking in.

 

[Karolina & Nestle]

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

Toady's Summary:
3:12am - BG 405 returned from ER.
3:15am - Ate small amount of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:15am - AMPS 385
6:16am - Fed 1/2 can of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 1/8 can of Hill's Urgent Care (14%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:25am - Shot 1.0U
7:51am - BG 352
9:30am - Gave 8mg tablet of Cerenia
9:32am - Gave 1ml of Pro-Pectalin (Digestive Health and Probiotic Supplement)
9:41am - BG 333
1:54pm - BG 276
2:00pm - Fed 1 teaspoon of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + small amount from packet of Pivetal Probiotic Supplement for Cats For Daily GI Support
6:09pm - PMPS 284
6:15pm - Fed 1/4 can of TruLuxe Cat on the Wok (3.80%) + 1/2 can of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + small amount from packet of Pivetal Probiotic Supplement for Cats For Daily GI Support + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:25pm - Shot 1.0U
7:27pm (+1) - BG 298

Upcoming Tasks:
8:30pm (+2) - Test BG and feed as/if needed
9:30pm (+3) - Test BG and feed as/if needed

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

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HA HA HA HA!!!! How funny, Karolina! Thanks so much!

 

[Karolina & Nestle]

HA HA HA HA!!!! How funny, Karolina! Thanks so much!

Glad you like it and made you smile

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

Glad you like it and made you smile

Totally, we posted at the same time and it popped up on the screen right when I hit my update. So yes, got me good!

 

[Marje and Gracie]

This is great to know! I rarely give the Royal Canin Glycobalance when I want to boost carbs. It's a good 14% option for her, only for snacks to boost up BG. If I find another suitable 14%, I'll work on phasing it out.

I'll check out the video, thanks!



Oh my, thank you so much for spending the time to do this research. I brought in the hard copies of all the test results to my primary vet's office today. I'm going to give her a chance to look at them, but I will for sure ask specific questions on these and look for a more comprehensive explanation. I paid big money for it after all... It drives me crazy that we have to ASK for the results.



This is great, I will check these products out. And yes, visbiome has been on my list for awhile now, as soon as I use up the current products, I'll switch over.



I appreciate you, thank you so much for the support!!!

You’re welcome. I’m glad she ate tonight.

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

Toady's Summary:
3:12am - BG 405 returned from ER.
3:15am - Ate small amount of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:15am - AMPS 385
6:16am - Fed 1/2 can of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 1/8 can of Hill's Urgent Care (14%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:25am - Shot 1.0U
7:51am - BG 352
9:30am - Gave 8mg tablet of Cerenia
9:32am - Gave 1ml of Pro-Pectalin (Digestive Health and Probiotic Supplement)
9:41am - BG 333
1:54pm - BG 276
2:00pm - Fed 1 teaspoon of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + small amount from packet of Pivetal Probiotic Supplement for Cats For Daily GI Support
6:09pm - PMPS 284
6:15pm - Fed 1/4 can of TruLuxe Cat on the Wok (3.80%) + 1/2 can of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + small amount from packet of Pivetal Probiotic Supplement for Cats For Daily GI Support + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:25pm - Shot 1.0U
7:27pm (+1) - BG 298
9:30pm (+3) - BG 225 + 1 teaspoon of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic

Upcoming Tasks:
10:30pm (+4) - Test BG and feed as/if needed

 

[Jason - Kona's Dad]

Toady's Summary:
3:12am - BG 405 returned from ER.
3:15am - Ate small amount of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:15am - AMPS 385
6:16am - Fed 1/2 can of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 1/8 can of Hill's Urgent Care (14%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:25am - Shot 1.0U
7:51am - BG 352
9:30am - Gave 8mg tablet of Cerenia
9:32am - Gave 1ml of Pro-Pectalin (Digestive Health and Probiotic Supplement)
9:41am - BG 333
1:54pm - BG 276
2:00pm - Fed 1 teaspoon of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + small amount from packet of Pivetal Probiotic Supplement for Cats For Daily GI Support
6:09pm - PMPS 284
6:15pm - Fed 1/4 can of TruLuxe Cat on the Wok (3.80%) + 1/2 can of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + small amount from packet of Pivetal Probiotic Supplement for Cats For Daily GI Support + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
6:25pm - Shot 1.0U
7:27pm (+1) - BG 298
9:30pm (+3) - BG 225 + 1 teaspoon of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%) + 75mg of Jarrows Formula S. Boulardii + MOS probiotic
10:31pm (+4) - BG 195 + 1 teaspoon of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%)

Automatic Feeder Schedule:
12:00am (+5.5) - Feeding 1 teaspoon of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%)
1:00am (+6.5) - Feeding 1 teaspoon of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%)
2:00am (+7.5) - Feeding 1 teaspoon of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%)
3:00am (+8.5) - Feeding 1 teaspoon of Weruva Wx Low Phos (0.0%)