2/28 George AMPS 91, +2 65, +4 57 +4 65, +7 63, +9 73, PMPS 77, +1 72, +3 66

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  1. Hammy

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    Good morning
    It looks like he didn't eat the food in the feeder last night. AMPS is 91.
    I set up feeder again for 1 hour and feed him in it this time and left light on so he can see it. Also kinda by the heater lol maybe waft the smell.
    Will check at+2 but make sure he eats by +1.5 since he seems to dip around then.

    I also feed him some mc mixed in both feedings

    Prev post:. https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB...-5-65-7-5-74-9-97-pmps-74-2-5-64-4-62.243794/
     
  2. Bandit's Mom

    Bandit's Mom Well-Known Member

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    So LC-MC mix with the shot and also at +1?
     
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  3. Hammy

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    Yes.

    +2 65. I'm gonna feed him a bit again now, lc with tiny mc and lay back down. I'm tied today.
     
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  4. Hammy

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    +4 57 fed. I think I forgot to feed him between 2 and 4.

    +5 65 feed lc
     
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  5. Bandit's Mom

    Bandit's Mom Well-Known Member

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    He's surfing on LC itself. That's good.
     
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  6. Hammy

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    I'll test at +7 :smuggrin:
     
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  7. Hammy

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    +7 63
     
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  8. Hammy

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    +9 is 73
     
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  9. tiffmaxee

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    He’s looking really good. At this point I’d just give lc. If he drops under 50 it’s time for a. OTJ trial think. :):D I’ll check with others to make sure they agree with me.
     
  10. tiffmaxee

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    I don’t see a PMPS. If you need help tag Bhooma. I’m feeling awful from my second Moderna shot so won’t be on tonight. You can try tagging @Bron and Sheba (GA) @Wendy&Neko
     
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  11. Hammy

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    Thank you. I'm sorry for the delay.
    PMPS 77
    +1 72

    I'm not feeling so well myself.
     
  12. tiffmaxee

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    If he drops under 50 I will get you the OTJ directions. Don feed any hc unless that happens. Feel better.
     
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  13. Hammy

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    +3 66
    Are you saying no med carb or high carb even if goes under 50? How often should I test him tonight? I was hoping to go to bed early. Maybe even shift a bit early in the morning from 630am to 615 am
     
  14. Hammy

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    I have a scheduled feeding for 1045 and 225am
     
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  16. Christie & Maverick

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    He's having a similar cycle to last night, feed the usual food at times like you have been. If you test once more before bed and he is under 50, then you can feed some higher carb food, but he's staying pretty steady at the moment. You can shift the preshot tomorrow by 15 minutes, no problem.
     
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  17. tiffmaxee

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    @Christie & Maverick If he’s green in the morning I think she can start a trial as it’s 7days on a drop.
     
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  18. Christie & Maverick

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    Elise, @tiffmaxee , I agree, hope you feel better.
     
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  19. Hammy

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    How exciting. Thank you. Should I wait to hear from someone in the morning?
     
  20. tiffmaxee

    tiffmaxee Well-Known Member

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    Instructions for starting the OTJ trial
    Start the trial on the next green pre shot.
    If he/she is green at your normal test times, no need to test further until the next "PS" time; just feed small meals and go about your day. If he/she is blue at your normal "PS", feed a small meal and test again after about 3 or 4 hours. If his/her number is lower 3-4 hours after a meal, then the pancreas is working!
    Post every day so we can monitor your progress and see if any tweaks are needed. He/she may have a sporadic blue number. Don't panic but post before you decide whether to shoot so we can have a discussion.
    After 14 days of no insulin, we have a party!!
    Sometimes the trial doesn't work the first time and we have to give a little more support in the form of resuming insulin. It's not the end of the world if that happens; we just give him/her the support needed. Our goal is a strong remission and it's better to take our time to get that than to rush into remission just to have it fail later on.
    Good luck with the trial!!!
    Once he/she is through the trial successfully, you enter a new phase. Your cat is still diabetic but has now become diet-controlled. Continue feeding low carb food in the manner successful for your kitty. If you decide to change his/her feeding schedule, let your meter be your guide to the best times to feed. Avoid medications with sugar in them and steroid medications unless they are medically essential. Continue testing blood glucose weekly for the first month and then monthly forever. It's a good idea to weigh him/her monthly. Weight should remain stable. If he/she seems "off" or sick, or is showing signs of diabetes (excessive drinking, eating, urinating, weight loss), test his/her blood glucose right away. Keep the teeth and gums clean and healthy; dental issues can bring a cat out of remission. If you see rising blood glucose numbers, it's time for a visit to the vet!

    Congrats! You start tomorrow if green at amps.
     

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